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nrannalli 06/07/2009 09:51 AM

trueblackpercula,

I posted before that it would not touch my bubble algae but then again I didn't state what type of bubble algae I had. It might work on Ventricaria ventricosa or Valonia but will not kill Derbesia(a type of hair algae which resembles Ventricaria ventricosa but it floats when unattached). PhreeBYrd is right in saying "misidentification" is a huge problem when it comes to algae.

APIS Claims:

ALGAEFIX Marine controlled:
o 100% of the Spirulina major culture
o 98% of the Oscillatoria culture
o 100% of the Cladophora culture
o 94% of the Cyclotella culture

buforda 06/07/2009 10:09 AM

I am new to the hobby and used your thread to figure out how to attack the problem of hair algae (I've even bought a blenny to try to work at it with no success). This thread has been really helpful in thinking about the next course of action. I will let you all know how my treatment goes.

Peace

savethereef 06/07/2009 10:17 AM

Quote:

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15146049#post15146049 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by savethereef
well after seeing this thread so much i finally decided to go and get the Algae Fix Marine yesterday from Pets smart. It was $15 for a big bottle. Another LFS was chargin $27 i was like WTH.

My tank is 225g with 50g split sump refuge. Currently i have alot of GHA and its allover the place. its smothering my corals so i have been picking it out manually for over a month. i know the reason i got it was because i make my own food and i used RODI. but one time i pulled it from the freezer i thawed it in some cold water and some how tap water got in the bag and i refreeze it and i guess the tap water mixed in. and i fed it to the tank. after that GHA :(

Well i did my 1st dose last night and will do another in 3 days. Hope to see some inprovements.

Well it's been 24 hrs since my first dose and all i can say is wow. after months of doing WC and trying a sea slug and sea hare to no avail. I cant believe that 2 1/2 caps of this stuff and i can see the GHA falling apart. I am now able to see my returns that before where completly smothered with GHA. Also my whole sand bed was covered with cyano. now it lifting off like a carpet and decomposing. Also i notice there is some serious denitrification going on. alot of bubbles are coming out of the sand and coming out. I can now see most of my rock and the GHA that was smothering my corals is now receding and thats in just one dose? i spent $40 on those Slugs and a $14.99 bottle is fixing my problem. Well i will be doing my second dose tomorrow and hopefully it keeps dying off. after my 3rd dose i will do a 50g WC and do another 2 doses after that and see what happens.

rick s 06/07/2009 11:18 AM

This is what I have, and believe to be Bryopsis.

I tried the elevated Mg. Even used Tech-M. I had Mg over 1600 for 2 months. Had it over 1800 for 3 months. It stunted its growth, but that's all.

If anyone has had success with Algae Fix on this evil weed, please chime in or PM me.

http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t...h/Bryopsis.jpg

savethereef 06/07/2009 11:20 AM

wow that looks ugly. Is it only on that rock? or all over the tank?

Haksar 06/07/2009 12:35 PM

I did my 03rd dose today so far no changes.I also have a phosban and carbon reactor running and also purigen.I have not made any WC till now.

Let's hope and I am crossing my fingers.. :cool:

cnaegler 06/07/2009 05:00 PM

I, too did my third dose today with no visible changes yet. All my parameters are in line as well. I'll keep everyone updated.

Bruno3047 06/07/2009 05:26 PM

Did my 12th treatment today on the every 3-day regimen. The algae is about 98% cleared off the aquascape rocks and rock wall, and holding steady. One small patch of hair algae on one of my rocks is holding on, as is some algae up near my lights, on the overflow.

Now the bad news. My mushrooms are definitely unhappy. My ricordea have lost some color and are somewhat deflated. The only other change I made to my tank was to boost my calcium levels to see if I could finally get some coralline algae growing, in place of the dying HA. This was a success, but I doubt the elevated calcium (about 500 PPM) is irritating my mushrooms.

The only other large change that I've noticed is that I've had a tremendous increase in the number of amphipods in my tank, since I've been running fishless for about 6 weeks. Could the amphipods be irritating my mushrooms? This seems like a stretch, since my mushrooms are all mounted vertically on my rock wall.

When I started:

http://i345.photobucket.com/albums/p...3047/ALGAE.jpg

Current pic:

http://i345.photobucket.com/albums/p...047/6-2-09.jpg

I'm going to discontinue the Algaefix and get my GFO and GAC running again, and see if my mushrooms come back.

HighlandReefer 06/07/2009 05:31 PM

Bruno,

At around the 10th or so dose is when the AlgaeFix started killing my chaeto. I don't know what to say, except that one may start to see negative effects after you hit the 10th dose on the 3 day basis. Perhaps giving your system a brake for a week may help and then hit it again?

I'm definitely interested in following up on your progress in this situation. ;)

Bruno3047 06/07/2009 05:42 PM

Hey Cliff.

I'll get my GFO and GAC running again in the next few days, then probably give the tank a break from the Algaefix for at least a week, maybe two.

I'd really like to see if I can keep the HA at bay going forward with just controlling my PO4 and NO3 levels.

BTW. I did not see any increase in my PO4 and NO3 levels since the HA die-off, but then again, I haven’t been feeding anything since I’ve been running fishless.

We'll see what happens after I re-introduce my fish to the tank in a couple weeks.

trueblackpercula 06/07/2009 06:38 PM

HighlandReefer
Thanks for the help ............can someone post what pest does this work on and what it does not work on.
Michael

cnaegler 06/07/2009 06:46 PM

Quote:

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15152905#post15152905 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by trueblackpercula
HighlandReefer
Thanks for the help ............can someone post what pest does this work on and what it does not work on.
Michael


APIS Claims:

ALGAEFIX Marine controlled:
o 100% of the Spirulina major culture
o 98% of the Oscillatoria culture
o 100% of the Cladophora culture
o 94% of the Cyclotella culture

mfinn 06/07/2009 06:50 PM

Would there be anything in ALGAEFIX Marine that would skew Alk, or magnesium tests?

cnaegler 06/07/2009 06:53 PM

Quote:

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15152972#post15152972 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mfinn
Would there be anything in ALGAEFIX Marine that would skew Alk, or magnesium tests?

I haven't seen any differences in mine.

HighlandReefer 06/07/2009 06:57 PM

The manufacturer did not test many types of algae to get their EPA label. The ones listed above are the ones they tested successfully. In general, AlgaeFix has worked for the green hair algae category of pests. Unfortunately, most hobbyists do not have the capability to properly ID algae type pests. IME, the AlgaeFix did help control the red cyano after about 10 doses or so. Other hobbyists have used AlgaeFix to control some of your macroalgae, but it will probably take at least 10 doses to control macro. I also had a blue green cyano that AlgaeFix worked well on.

I am always interested in any hobbyists who try to control any type of algae pest, but very interested in anyone who wants to try some of the other type algae pests such as bubble algae and bryopsis or even perhaps some of the dinoflagellates. :)

My hunch is that AlgaeFix may work on some of the tougher algae pests, but may very well take at least 10 doses, which is where many hobbyists begin to see some kind of problems.

mfinn 06/07/2009 07:19 PM

After 1 dose, I noticed a pretty big drop in HA.
Hoping it helps with the bubble and bryopsis.

cnaegler 06/07/2009 07:20 PM

Quote:

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15153142#post15153142 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mfinn
After 1 dose, I noticed a pretty big drop in HA.
Hoping it helps with the bubble and bryopsis.

Was that in your 240?

savethereef 06/07/2009 08:05 PM

i got home to find more GHA gone just with one dose. i read the bottle says something about cancer. is it safe to stick my hand in the tank? i notice the GHA look brittle now and looks like it can be pull out easily now. tomorrow night will be my 2nd dose.

mfinn 06/07/2009 08:10 PM

Quote:

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15153148#post15153148 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by cnaegler
Was that in your 240?



Yes it is.

cnaegler 06/07/2009 08:27 PM

Quote:

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15153470#post15153470 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mfinn
Yes it is.
Wow! That's great! Too bad i'm on my third dose with no change...it'll be my luck that it won't work for me.

unbreakable 06/07/2009 08:30 PM

I have some patches i want to get rid of.. before I try it out i have some questions.

-Will this have any impact on the bacteria in the live rock?
-Is it safe to use with delicate corals like SPS and safe with Clams?
-and Can I use the freshwater version of AlgaeFix? My LFS only orders the freshwater kind and I have quick access to it

Thanks

cnaegler 06/07/2009 08:33 PM

Quote:

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15153583#post15153583 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by unbreakable
I have some patches i want to get rid of.. before I try it out i have some questions.

-Will this have any impact on the bacteria in the live rock?
-Is it safe to use with delicate corals like SPS and safe with Clams?
-and Can I use the freshwater version of AlgaeFix? My LFS only orders the freshwater kind and I have quick access to it

Thanks

I believe it's safe with all of the above. I'm using it on a SPS tank with clams and i haven't seen any signs of distress. As far as using the freshwater vs. marine... i couldn't say. Perhaps HighlandReefer would know..

HighlandReefer 06/07/2009 08:39 PM

The fresh water AlgaeFix and the Marine AlgaeFix have the same active ingredient and concentration. They may be identical except the label. I am not going to say that the fresh water version is safe to use though. :D

Anyone want to be a Guinea pig? :)

unbreakable 06/07/2009 08:40 PM

thanks cnaegler, maybe HighlandReefer can confirm. I'll pick up a bottle tomorrow evening if the FW version works

savethereef 06/07/2009 10:24 PM

just order it from Marine depot to be safe. I got mine from PetSmart and got $3 off a bottle. Any Petsmarts in your area?


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