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unbreakable 04/05/2010 10:05 PM

i got back on the algaefix marine but im dosing vodka at the same time with a peristaltic pump for the vodka. so far certain areas look shorter or no longer have algae, but other areas still have it to where it wont come off. i dose algaefix marine every 3rd day and vodka everyday since its controlled by my apex. im going to continue dosing algae fix until i run out of the bottle

HighlandReefer 04/06/2010 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by goochesfish (Post 16904385)
Do snails starve when treating with algaefix?

Snails do need a food source. I would imagine that the AF would not completely kill all algae though.

HighlandReefer 04/06/2010 03:30 PM

unbreakable,

Sorry to hear your algae returned. Let us know how it works out for you. You also have the option of reducing to once per week treatment after the algae disappears.

iamwrasseman 04/06/2010 07:57 PM

no they wont as the algae fix only kills off hair algae so there are others that will be remaining . there will always be a certain amount of algae in your tank and some you cant really see that well but its there . the remaining algae's will be the food of choice for the grazers such as snails .

goochesfish 04/06/2010 11:19 PM

That's good, 1st dose 14cc placed tonight. Hope it works for me too.

TampaBayReefer 04/09/2010 08:03 AM

Has anyone used this stuff with sensitive inverts like anemones? I tried AF once before and it wiped out all my zoas colonies. It reduced the HA but I quit dosing. This was months ago, my zoas are gone but I've added a BTA since then and I'm a little concerned about resuming dosing.

HighlandReefer 04/09/2010 04:25 PM

I used AF for a prolonged period of time with my RBTA and zoas and had no problems. I know that other hobbyists have used AF with anemones and zoas without problems also.

There can be quite a few possibilities as to what causes your problems, not to say that AF did not cause your problems. If the AlgaeFix did cause your problems, I would be hesitant on trying it again. If you do decide to try AF again, I would double check your dosage rate and stick with the labeled directions. :)

goochesfish 04/17/2010 12:09 AM

I am on 4th dose in a tank with 2 BTA's and an LTA and zoas. All doing well including the hair algae.

adamsfour 04/17/2010 05:14 AM

all I can report is my experience. For me it did not work I did 6 doses and it may have slowed it down but certainly did not get rid of it. In the end I pulled all of my rock out scrub it to death and turn off all of the lights for 3 now. Each week I did a small water change to remove any dead algae. There is no sign of Algae. The chemistry of the tank is perfect. I plan to keep the lights out for one more week and then slowly bring back the lighting. Not to put the product down but for me it just did not work. I am guessing for it to work you need to make sure you get to the source of the problem.

BNesti 04/17/2010 07:59 AM

Worked for me.

34G Solana... I tried all the right 'non-chemical' things to get rid of the hair algae (reduce lighting period, reduce feeding, frequent partial water changes, zero TDS water change water, etc) all could not get rid of it.

I used AlgaeFix Marine in accordance with the directions. The growth dramatically slowed after the first dose. I have dosed 4 times now, and the hair algae is about ~99% gone. I think I will now go to the weekly doses.

HighlandReefer 04/17/2010 08:54 AM

It seems that many hobbyists start to see results when using AF at around the 5th or 6th dose. Keep in mind that AF does not work on all hair algae species (like Derbesia which is what I have). AF is effective with many hair algae species though, and if you don't see results by the 10th dose, I would think about stop using it. Unfortunately, trying to identify which algae specie you have is very difficult. Trial and error may be the best solution while strictly following the labeled directions. ;)

dun2run 04/17/2010 08:40 PM

I'm gonna re-name my Yellow Tang Algae fix. Hes done way more for it than the algae fix has.

HighlandReefer 04/18/2010 09:28 AM

dun2run,

Sorry to hear the AF did not work on your specie of algae. I like the foxface also for eating many species of algae. My tangs were good, but the foxface was better. ;)

eskymick 04/20/2010 02:20 PM

Do users find this product to be safe for both LPS and SPS corals?

xr4kw 04/20/2010 02:56 PM

Unfortunately, I haven't had much luck at all. I'm probably 10 or so doses in. I also had most of my zoas close up, they're not dead yet but they haven't opened in weeks. I think it's time to throw in the towel for me.

Merfin70 04/20/2010 09:30 PM

Any opinions on whether I'm a good candidate based on the pictures of my form of algae? Mine sprung up after the death of my Potter's Angel. Unfortunately my serpent star dragged his body deep into my rockwork to the point where I couldn't get it out. I thought my CUC would make things right but apparently not so. Two days after, I had the start of the outbreak that continues until now. Vodka and GFO dosing has lightened the color but is also stressting my SPS out.

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HighlandReefer 04/21/2010 05:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eskymick (Post 16983325)
Do users find this product to be safe for both LPS and SPS corals?

As long as you follow the AF label, few hobbyists have reported problems with their coral.

HighlandReefer 04/21/2010 05:36 AM

Merfin70,

I am unsure of which algae species you have in your tank.

We have had several hobbyists who reported the loss of their cuc while dosing AF. I am not certain that the loss fo the cucs were not from other causes. If the cuc does not eat the algae you have, it could starve, which happens in many cases. I would remove your cuc if you decide to use AF.

It appears that perhaps your ammonia, nitrate and phosphate levels may have risen too high. Perhaps running GFO, GAC, cleaning the debris from your tank and running a filter bag may help eliminate your algae pest. It is important to scrub the algae out of your tank constantly. I might try these altneratives before using AF. ;)

goochesfish 04/27/2010 10:28 PM

I just dosed the 8th dose and although I still have hair algae present, I seem to have no new growth, seems shorter, and lighter in color. Definitely not gone though. I just cannot seem to scrub off the algae present in holes or deep grooves. I also seem to have lost a few snails, I think they are starving. When do I switch to weekly dosing?

HighlandReefer 04/28/2010 04:58 AM

I would switch to weekly dosing once the algae has disappeared to kill algae still present, but you can't see. Hopefully, you are running GFO to keep your phosphate level down below 0.03.

Ardeus 05/01/2010 11:45 AM

I'm on the 6th dose and algae growth continues - I continue to scrub them with a tooth brush.

There are several types of algae and there's also a new problem: huge amounts of cyano that I didn't have before. They started to take over corals and macro algae.

I'm running a powerful GFO and my nitrates and phosphates are undetectable by Salifert tests.

RegalAngel 05/01/2010 06:17 PM

Will AlgaeFix Marine work in a setup with carbon in the filtration system?
I would like to treat for "Brown" algae which AlgaeFix will kill, but have carbon.

What do the directions indicate?

HighlandReefer 05/02/2010 06:13 AM

This is the label from the AlgaeFix Marine label (Nothing is mentioned that carbon be removed):

"Benefits: AlgaeFix marine effectively controls these types of saltwater algae: Green algae (Cladaphora), "Red Loine" (Oscillatoria/Spirulina major), "Brown algae" (Cyclotela) in marine aquarium containing live corals, invertebrates and fish. When used in salt water will not harm snails, clams,scallops, shrimp, anemones, sea cucumbers, feather dusters, coralline algae, soft corals, hard corals and other invertebrates. Does not discolor the water or cause foaming.

Directions for use: It is a violation of federal law to use this product in a manner inconsistent with its labeling. Add 1 ml (1/5 tsp. for each 10 US gallons (38 L) or 5 ml (1 tsp.) for each 50 US gallons (190 L) or 50 ml. (10 tsp.) for each 500 US gallons (1,890 L) of aquarium water. Repeat dose every 3 days until algae is controlled. Siphon or scrape any dead algae from aquarium. Once algae growth is under control, add one dose per week. Weekly doses of AlgaeFix Marine will control Alger growth and reduce aquarium maintenance.

Precautionary Statement
Hazards to humans & domestic animals.

Caution: Harmful if swallowed or absorbed through the skin. Avoid contact with skin, eyes or clothing. Wash thoroughly with soap and water after handling. Note: This product contains a chemical known to the state of California to cause cancer.

First Aid: If on skin, thoroughly wash with soap and water and remove contaminated clothing. If in eyes, hold eye open and gently flush with water for 15 minutes. If Swallowed, call a Poison Control Center or doctor immediately for treatment advice.

Storage and Disposal: Do not contaminate water or feed. Do not reuse empty bottle. Rinse throughly before discarding in trash."

PhreeBYrd 05/02/2010 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ardeus (Post 17037835)
I'm on the 6th dose and algae growth continues - I continue to scrub them with a tooth brush.

There are several types of algae and there's also a new problem: huge amounts of cyano that I didn't have before. They started to take over corals and macro algae.

I'm running a powerful GFO and my nitrates and phosphates are undetectable by Salifert tests.

The cyanobacteria is likely a result of excess nutrient availability from other algaes dying or from their inability to consume nutrients at their prior levels. Make sure you have sufficient water movement and redirect flow onto any problem cyanobacteria. Also make sure your skimmer is operating at optimal production - in this case, optimal means running on the wet side.

Scrubbing your problem algae with a toothbrush is doing nothing but breaking it apart and spreading it around. I suggest regularly siphoning out what you can (without brushing). This is best done immediately before each AlgaeFix dose.

goochesfish 05/03/2010 12:40 AM

Does anyone think a UV sterilizer will kill algae spores? I've done 9 doses, have no new growth, am scrubbing and siphoning. Hair algae not all gone but much improved. I cannot get to tufts behind rock work. I am losing snails and my Chevron looks skinny. Yesterday it got stuck to the closed loop intake but he has survived another day and is eating. I really want to go to weekly doses so i can buy new turbos snails.


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