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HighlandReefer 04/18/2009 08:36 AM

I have read threads regarding the use of Boyd Enterprises Chemi-Clean. It gets about the same remarks said about it as the Erythromycin, where in many cases the cyano will come back.

Unfortunately, the manufacturer does not disclose what active ingredient is in it that I am aware of. From reading the label they want you to discontinue skimming, carbon, GFO and do water changes after the treatment. This sounds somewhat alarming to a hobbyist such as myself that has no idea what is in it. They do say it is safe for marine tanks. :(

moliken 04/18/2009 09:54 AM

used chemi clean and it worked bery well at proper doses. turned off skimmer for 24 hours as directed and changed 20% of water 48 hours after dosing. all disappeares. no other issues w/ chemi clean. but now have a large gh problem, and will probably use the algaefix marine.

California Crow 04/18/2009 10:01 AM

Any experiences with Kent Marine PolyOx? Looks like it takes a different approach to the problem.

CC

HighlandReefer 04/18/2009 10:03 AM

I believe that Boomer has stated that he has used the Chem-Clean with success also, although he recommended it be used as a last resort.

Thanks for the experiences with the chem-Clean product. :thumbsup:

edandsandy 04/18/2009 11:00 AM

Today Ed and I were able to take the rock out that had the most GHA on it, he scrubbed that rock so clean it was squeaking :D

We were also able to move ever so carefully some of the rocks and scrub in between them too.

We performed a 60 gallon water change out.

We recalculated our total volume and it is 415 gallons, so the 37ml is under dosing right??????

I will not dose the 37ml again, my LPS just did not respond well at all.

I did use a total of 5ml directly to a few places we could not reach or move the rocks to reach with a syringe.

Our cocoa worm is still alive, just not peeking out to see if the coast is clear yet;)
the starfish are finally moving around as normal :)

We have noticed the tangs and grazing on the exposed GHA and we are moving the snails directly on the exposed GHA.....
Some snails are staying in place some are not....

We have declared WAR on the GHA in the tank:lol:

Oh, just replaced the GFO today too, it was time......

We'll keep you posted.... :smoking:

HighlandReefer 04/18/2009 01:39 PM

Yes, it would appear your were under-dosing a bit.

I hope this works for you. :thumbsup:

jrw 04/18/2009 03:14 PM

I have noticed on the tips of the green hair algae that is or has died, what appears to be cyanobacteria setting in to those tips. The good news is that I have alot of flow and the pieces as they die are getting pulled from the rocks, chopped up in the Vortechs and presumably skimmed out, as I see lots of GHA in the skimmer cup.

The past 2 days I have been skimming very wet pulling out a yellow-green thin skimmate with chunks of GHA. I have been skimming out a full Bubble King Supermarin 250 collection cup a day.

I think I may have a cyano issue after this is over, but I find the cyano much easier to deal with than this GHA.

HighlandReefer 04/18/2009 03:20 PM

Jrw,

Sounds like the AlgaeFix is working for you. Will keep my fingers crossed for ya on the cyano issue.

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dynomight 04/19/2009 02:15 AM

I added my fourth dose yesterday. My gha problem wasn't the worst I have seen but it was way out of control. I feel my problem stems from not rinsing my foods and the lack of macro/sump/dsb due to limited space.

Anyways....I have a mixed reef with SPS, LPS, softies, anemones, shrooms, shrimp, many small brittle stars, breeding snails, etc....I have seen a reduction in copeopods and a small outbreak of cyano after the third dose but it is gone now.

I dose a roughly 30g total water volume with 3ml every three days directly into a powerhead. As of yet I have no Ill affects to any of the tank mates except for the copeopods. This is also just a simple inference on my part about them.

GHA is dying fast and not regrowing. My largest rock looks like it has male pattern baldness :)

I think everyone with cyano problems should just keep dosing like normal and see if it will fix itself like mine did.


ON A SIDE NOTE.... Is anyone keeping up with WC's while in the regiment. I am keeping my sunday schedual of 5g's and I dose 1ml in the new water itself.

HighlandReefer 04/19/2009 04:56 AM

Dynomight,

That's dynamite, that AlgaeFix Marine is working for you. ;)

I am particularly interested in any effects that AlgaeFix may have on your shrimp. Keep us posted. :thumbsup:

I have not been keeping up with my water changes since dosing AlgaeFix. :(

I am not concerned about AlgaeFix building-up in my system. I was told by the manufacturer that AlgaeFix will brake down within 24 hrs.

edandsandy 04/19/2009 06:50 AM

dynomight
Glad to hear the AlgaeFix Marine is working for you :)

If I may ask, what are your LPS's?

We also had a reduction in copeopods, we are not to worried about those as they reproduce like rabbits :)

dynomight 04/19/2009 10:26 PM

Ditto on the pods, I just found a huge amphipod in my overflow.

LPS are a few different torches (purple with yellow tips, green with yellow tips, and a hammer), a very cool australian purple bubble, and a duncan with about 10 babies and two large heads. It hasnt been fully extended in a week but I came home from work the other day to a torch with one tentacle stinging it.

SPS are a couple different acro's and a purple with yellow polyps monti.

I have had the monit for a couple of years and the acros for about 3 months. They still all have polyps and the same color as before the treatment.

HighlandReefer 04/20/2009 08:33 AM

Just an update on my dosing of AlgaeFix Marine. I started dosing it on 3/10/2009, approx. every three days at the recommended rate. My dosing is not a true case for analyzing its effectiveness, since I have only cleaned half of my tank. Currently the cleaned half is clean of algae and the other half has it, but is not growing much.

Recently I have observed a downward turn in the health of my chaeto. It now is not doing well at all and I will remove it. So, IMHO, the AlgaeFix Marine may have ill effects on Chaeto after a prolonged use (11 doses) while dosing at the three day intervals.

I have not observed any ill effects in any of my corals, RBTA, fish, snails or other organisms in my system.

edandsandy 04/20/2009 01:36 PM

Great up date!

jrw 04/20/2009 02:50 PM

Good point about the cleaning Cliff.

I have been cleaning my tank as I go along and things look so much better now than when I started. Today should be dose 4.

edandsandy 04/21/2009 07:04 AM

jrw,
I see you have a large system, if I may ask, how much are you dosing?

We have not seen any new groups of GHA in our system.
Where we pulled the rocks out and scrubbed and rinsed with fresh water, and dosed directly, the GHA has died off :D

I am pulling the GHA off the rocks daily and last night I had Ed remove as much of the GHA from the sumps as possible...

I am supposed to dose again today, not so sure if I am,
because all my LPS's are finally looking normal, and my star fish is moving around the tank as normal........
If I decide to dose, it will be a very small amount. I am thinking about the direct dose with a syringe, that worked for me last time.


What would you do???????

Any advise is appreciated. :)

jrw 04/21/2009 03:31 PM

I started at 25mL every 3 days and now do 30mL every 3 days. On dose 4 as of yesterday.

sanababit 04/21/2009 11:15 PM

Well yesterday was my 2nd dose and everything is ok, hair algae is still there, it kind of looks withish, maybe its just sand that got caught, anyways i will keep you guys posted

sana

HighlandReefer 04/22/2009 04:27 AM

sanababit,

It seems like most hobbyists experience a decline in their algae pest at around the 4-5 dose. Keep us posted. ;)

jrw 04/22/2009 03:24 PM

Quote:

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14873694#post14873694 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by sanababit
Well yesterday was my 2nd dose and everything is ok, hair algae is still there, it kind of looks withish, maybe its just sand that got caught, anyways i will keep you guys posted

sana

The hair algae is turning that color because it is likely dead or on its way to being so. Can you blow the hair algae off with a turkey baster now that it is "whitish"?

HighlandReefer 04/22/2009 03:45 PM

The goal will be to remove as much of your pest as possible from your system. Skimming, physical extraction & siphoning all work. ;)

sanababit 04/22/2009 04:12 PM

i am removing as much as i can manually, i am trying not to leave any strands loose because where ever they land boom more hair algae, i really dont want to scrub until i see the algae turn more white, i am spraying algaefix directly into the algae see if that works faster, i know is still early but i have not seen any ill effects, knock on wood.....

BTW i am not doing any water changes, all my equipment carbon, rowaphos, skimmer, denitrifier are online, if by the 5th dose i dont see a change i might remove the carbon......

sana

dazed 04/22/2009 04:16 PM

Well for me the sea hare i mentioned adding to my dt has gone mia as far as i can tell, need to decide if i want to resume the dosing in the dt tank or not. I have continued dosing into another tank that has a small gha issue 4th dose and so far no change at all. The 40g tank that i have been dosing the product to has no skimmer,gac,gfo or anything to interfere with the product. It seems that most are reporting some kind of change around the 5th or 6th dose so maybe i am not quite there yet.

HighlandReefer 04/22/2009 04:32 PM

Sanababit,

Sounds like a good plan to me. I'll be interested in your results.

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Dazed,

Sorry to hear about your Sea Hare. :(

I was interested, so I did a search on Sea Hares. I thought that I had read in many cases they do not survive well in reef systems. I am no expert.

FWIW, the results of my search came up with this thread from another forum:

http://www.austinreefclub.com/index.php?showtopic=5632

From it one hobbyist stated:

"Sea Hares are not magic bullets, kinda like how not all Tangs are either. The worst part is that they tend to live only a couple of weeks and then die. Their death contributes yet more excess nutrients for the algae to grow.

I've heard both sides of coin with algaefix. One poster said it wiped out his tank and another swore it was the best thing ever. As always I believe that with any treatment, the attentiveness of the hobbyist contributes greatly to the outcome and or success."

HighlandReefer 04/22/2009 04:42 PM

Chris,

I have read some threads about Sea Hare toxicity, if they die in your system. Some hobbyists claim there was no effect when they die in the system and could not be found. Others stated the opposite. I only say this, because I am somewhat concerned for you and I am no authority on them.


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