Has anyone has any livestock losses by following dosing regimen, and leaving skimmer, carbon, gfo on, and vodka/carbon dosing?

One complaint that has come up a few times was regarding sea cucumbers. There have been several losses. I would remove any you might have in your tank. ;)

Exactly what the cause of their death is unknown but it was in conjunction with AF dosing.

ooo....thanks! I have a tiger, too!

You are welcome.

Tigers are really nice looking. If you kill all the algae off, they may starve to death.

Something like this tiger?


http://www.liveaquaria.com/images/ca...Tiger-Tail.jpg

yes, exactly!

Will my cheato be killed off as well? If I kill all the hair algea then I still need to export those nutrients....

All the cheato in my refugium were killed!

it made my cheato melt away!

Has anyone tried to mix your dose with RO water or tank water and apply it with a turkey baster to the affected areas ? I just started treatment yesterday and will keep all updated with progress. I just thought of that today and figured it might attack the affected areas better if it was concentrated right where the algae is....any thoughts.

I tried this on a siphoning algae in my tank which AF does not effect and it did not help for this situation.

Cliff I don't know that it was ever asked or addressed. I see you first used this stuff almost 2 years ago. Do you still use it? Did it end up wiping out all your hair algae? I'm curious...

Also I assume a bag of phosguard should be ok in the sump? It's the only chemical filtration I'm using during treatment..

Algae Fix did not work for the algae I had. I believe it was Derbesia which is a siphoning algae (siphonous algae). The siphoning algae are able to heal their damaged membranes (holes in them) quickly which is the way AF works simply put. Bryopsis is another siphoning algae and AF won't work on it according to other posts.

Phosguard is ok to use along with GAC. I would recommend this with algae problems and to help clean-up the dead and dieing algae parts.

More details for those interested in the siphoning algae:


PHYLOGENETIC ANALYSES OF THE BRYOPSIDALES (ULVOPHYCEAE,
CHLOROPHYTA) BASED ON RUBISCO LARGE SUBUNIT GENE SEQUENCES1
http://www.ohio.edu/people/lam/Docum...am_Zechman.pdf


From it in part:

"The order Bryopsidales (also referred to as the
Caulerpales, Codiales, and Siphonales) is comprised
of green, mostly macroscopic, siphonous algae with
multicellularity arising only in some taxa during sexual
reproduction (Silva 1982). The Bryopsidales exhibit a
cosmopolitan distribution; however, some groups are
restricted to tropical marine environments. One genus,
Dichotomosiphon, is found in freshwater habitats.
Similarly, the Bryopsidales exhibit extremely broad
morphological diversity (from the simple uniaxial siphonous
construction found in Bryopsis, Derbesia, and
Caulerpa to the complex interwoven multiaxial siphon
patterns found in Codium, Halimeda, and Penicillus).
Some genera are heavily calcified as in the genus Udotea,
while the family Caulerpaceae and the majority of
the suborder Bryopsidineae exhibit no calcification.
Some bryopsidalean taxa are invasive and ecologically
problematic and are known to flourish in temperate
marine waters (e.g. Caulerpa taxifolia and Codium fragile
subsp. tomentosoides; Bouk and Morgan 1957, Trowbridge
1995, Jousson et al. 1998)."

Unfortunately yes, but the red gracilaria and dragon breath’s macro algae are still alive in my refugium. You could put the chaeto in a different tank, bucket or any container with a heater and an air pump and once you are done killing the HA put it back in your refugium.

OK I wanted to post some pics of my algae so someone might be able to tell me if I have a species that the AF may work on. Anyone care to explain how to post a pic? Can it be does without a webhost like imageshack etc?

Yes use the "insert image" function

all I'm getting when I click on that is a URL request? Wouldn't that mean I had ot add it to a website? I have a photo saved on my pc...thats all at the moment.

Yes you need to upload it to the website or to another photo service sight. Then use the url from the site.

OK well I figured out how to take pics now I need ot figure out how to make them bigger...

Cliff, any idea what type this HA is?

anyone have any ideas as to what type of HA this is?

Not really. Algae can be difficult to identify, and there are a lot of species.

You would need to look at the cells of the algae (under a scope) to get a better idea of what this algae is. As far as those algae that have that hair-like appearance, I can only separate the algae by whether they are siphonous or not. If they are siphonous then I doubt AF will work on them. The Bryopsis algae have a feather like growth appearance and they are siphonous.

You can try the AF and see if it works. If after 10 doses you don't see any changes then one may assume it will not work on your specie of algae.