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worm5406 06/24/2013 01:35 PM

Any updates for those over the past month??

Just trying to keep this thread alive for others going through the same problems.

Your before after pics are like night and day.

Keeping some of the new people in the loop, to see what can be done, AFTER checking everything else, helps all of us in the long run.

Thanks for your updates and sharing of data.

Johnic 06/24/2013 01:38 PM

I've had great success with it and continue to use it once a week to prevent it. I think the trick is to be patience and let the stuff do its work. Mind took about 1.5 months.

knight2255 07/23/2013 12:10 PM

Anyone tried this with an algae turf scrubber? I was thinking of dosing this every 3 days. For the first 2 days I would disconnect my ATS while the algae killing active ingredient breaks down and then reconnect the ATS on the 3rd day to remove whatever PO4 I can. I would be skimming and dosing sugar as well everyday.

I'll take pics and maybe make an animated time lapse gif of the results.

worm5406 07/23/2013 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by knight2255 (Post 21735568)
Anyone tried this with an algae turf scrubber? I was thinking of dosing this every 3 days. For the first 2 days I would disconnect my ATS while the algae killing active ingredient breaks down and then reconnect the ATS on the 3rd day to remove whatever PO4 I can. I would be skimming and dosing sugar as well everyday.

I'll take pics and maybe make an animated time lapse gif of the results.

I would like to see this.

I have a ATS as well and wondered what it would do to it, I have not looked up the answer yet, though.

Fishypapa 07/23/2013 12:28 PM

I had a similar issue but started using GFO in a reactor and a UV sterilizer and haven't had it come back at all since.

Did you actually put a Tang in a 30g tank? Hope the 75 gets finished soon then.

knight2255 08/25/2013 08:51 AM

Thankfully this is working on my very bad algae problem. I"ve taken my ATS offline and have to clean out the skimmer cup twice daily. I'll be doing my 4th treatment this evening and think that after 4 more, I should have the stuff cleaned out. I'm taking daily pics so hopefully I can put together a time lapse gif of it disappearing.

coketech 08/26/2013 05:20 PM

My Turn!
 
Hi guys

Its my turn to give Algaefix a go.

I have three algae types:

Grape algae Ventricaria ventricosa http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2002-02/hcj/feature/

Brownish redish shortish algae, kind of bristle-brush texture.

Green shortish algae, kind of bristle-brush texture.

Unfortunately I had to spend less time on my tank maintenance that I wanted to for a while due to other pressures, so the algae got a little out of control.

I was given some second hand AlgaeFix by a friend so im not sure if its a bit too old but I'll give it a go.

My first dose was on Saturday, I gave it another dose on Sunday (fully misread the instructions). Ive given it its next dose today (Tuesday) but there is still no visible change to the algae. Ill post pics soon once something starts changing...

Fishypapa 08/27/2013 07:17 AM

Fyi
 
Just something to watch out for while people are using Algaefix:

Specific Gravity (water=1): 1.006
pH (as supplied): 5.8-6.8

Make sure to monitor your Salinity and pH.

Additionally check out the page http://www.pesticideinfo.org/Detail_...Rec_Id=PC34167 to see how much information regarding the primary chemical in Algaefix is NOT available and see the links further down for information regarding toxicity to Aquatic/Marine life.

ReefTron5000 09/05/2013 02:16 PM

Sorry if this has already been discussed but the regularly labeled "Algaefix" is the same thing as "Algaefix Marine" right? I'm looking at the product document sheets on API's website and they both list dimethyliminoethylene dichloride, ethoxylate as the ingredients? I can't find the Marine stuff near by, just the regular.

bertoni 09/05/2013 10:23 PM

Do they list any other ingredients? They likely both are close enough, but I can't guarantee that.

ReefTron5000 09/07/2013 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by bertoni (Post 21876433)
Do they list any other ingredients? They likely both are close enough, but I can't guarantee that.


They don't. Bah I wish I knew for sure.

kjboggs 09/08/2013 11:54 AM

I am waging war on my hair algae. Scrubbed all my rocks, siphoned out the crap, and added regular algae fix last night since I could not get the marine for a couple days. I saw a difference the next day dosing 5ml in my 55 reef. The green haze on my back glass turned white, and my sand has never been whiter. At this pace as long as I don't lose anything will be a lifesaver for me.

worm5406 09/09/2013 08:21 AM

SKIM SKIM SKIM...

and siphon it all off as to not let it free float and cause problems.

ReefTron5000 09/23/2013 10:06 PM

Since I started using this stuff to battle a minor hair algae problem my phosphate readings according to a Hanna checker have gone up quite a bit. Before I started using Algaefix phosphates measured .08, after 3 treatments they are .18. Is this normal?

Big E 09/24/2013 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ReefTron5000 (Post 21929498)
Since I started using this stuff to battle a minor hair algae problem my phosphate readings according to a Hanna checker have gone up quite a bit. Before I started using Algaefix phosphates measured .08, after 3 treatments they are .18. Is this normal?

Yes, you have killed tha algae that was taking up the PO4. The PO4 was always there on a constant basis.

I'd wait for a few weeks to see if it works it's way back down. Sometimes your tanks bacteria will adjust............if it doesn't, you'll have to fix your export system, which was probably the problem in the first place.

worm5406 09/24/2013 09:31 PM

Yes very normal. The GHA was eating/using it as it came off the rock. Now it is free floating in the water because it is not uptaking it.

GFO? ATS?

Decadence 09/25/2013 01:57 AM

I just started dosing this stuff tonight into a heavily stocked SPS tank. I dosed 9ml into a 90 gallon display with a 20 gallon sump, estimating 90 total gallons of water. I noticed no immediate signs of any problems dosing the regular, non-marine Algaefix. Polyp extension is stellar tonight.

I'm dosing to combat what has been dubbed "ghost algae", the extremely fine whitish-tannish filamental algae, bacteria or fungus (I don't believe it was ever actually determined). I keep an extremely low nutrient level in my tank and this stuff seams to be thriving as it very easily traps detritus. Even with heavy carbon dosing, heavy skimming, weekly detritus cleanings and a lot of GFO usage, this stuff is taking off. I had a small amount of bryposis, grape caulerpa and chaetomorpha algae which have all died off. We will see if this Algaefix can kick the ghost algae.

Reeferz412 09/25/2013 07:19 AM

I used the freshwater algaefix. Same additives as the Marine Algaefix. It worked well in my tank but it does take time. I ended up just solving the root of the problem in the long run though.

worm5406 09/25/2013 08:07 AM

+1 Yes... something is causing it. We can chase it all day long, but eventually we need to find what is adding it. Water/rock/additives/food.... Something.

Decadence 09/25/2013 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by worm5406 (Post 21933144)
+1 Yes... something is causing it. We can chase it all day long, but eventually we need to find what is adding it. Water/rock/additives/food.... Something.

It isn't always that simple. I'm BB with 100x flow, huge skimmer, carbon dosing, GFO and weekly detritus removal. The stuff that I have is thriving even when every other type of algae in the system which I wanted has died. Inorganic nutrients in my tank are undetectable. This stuff just traps detritus in it because the filaments are so fine. All of my rocks are covered in acro colonies so scrubbing it off and spot treatment aren't an option.

worm5406 09/25/2013 08:39 AM

Very true to the rock.

My phosphates were extremely low too, because the GAH was uptaking it before it really got in the water column. Once the Sea Hare started to run everywhere my ATS started taking in more and started to bloom more/quicker.

I tried crabs and hermits and they would try to tackle it but could not keep up sometimes.

My tank has gone from green waving hair algae lush forests to a nice cured rock teaming with life and energy. All this over the past month. I am surprised and happy that the hare was employed in my tank.

Decadence 09/28/2013 07:15 PM

I did my second dose yesterday of freshwater Algaefix and am still very impressed with the results. I had very little detritus to syphon today because there wasn't any more of the ghost algae on the rocks, trapping detritus. I have still seen no negative effects of dosing other than slightly decreased PH (8.2 instead of 8.4) which is likely because of all of the additional organics in the water fueling bacteria. For those interested in knowing, I have noticed absolutely no negative impact on 100+ SPS corals thus far.

Decadence 09/29/2013 03:19 PM

Are any of you guys doing a maintenance dosage after the algae is all gone?

I'm very interested in setting up Algaefix on a dosing pump to keep my SPS reef looking fresh all the time. The difference in trapped detritus is like night and day. My corals have actually never looked better.

On a side note, Algaefix seams to be knocking out colonial hydroids. This is kind of cool since this was the next pest which I was planning on tackling.

Johnic 09/29/2013 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Decadence (Post 21945516)
Are any of you guys doing a maintenance dosage after the algae is all gone?

I'm very interested in setting up Algaefix on a dosing pump to keep my SPS reef looking fresh all the time. The difference in trapped detritus is like night and day. My corals have actually never looked better.

On a side note, Algaefix seams to be knocking out colonial hydroids. This is kind of cool since this was the next pest which I was planning on tackling.

I'm doing it once or twice a week and I notice my skimmer picking up more stuff

Decadence 09/29/2013 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnic (Post 21945576)
I'm doing it once or twice a week and I notice my skimmer picking up more stuff

So this is after the algae is all dead?

I was thinking about getting a 1.1ml BRS doser and using my reefkeeper to dose once a week like the instructions say to do. So you are doing it more than once per week as a maintenance dosage? Have you noticed any negative effects with inverts, fish or corals? I'm worried, being the active ingredient a biocide, that it would have a negative impact on zooxanthellae and affect SPS.


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