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Posseidon 04/02/2014 03:25 PM

I dose about right, considering the total volume in Display and sump as well as displacement by rocks. However, I dose it into the sump so that it mixes up well before entering the display tank. Obviously, concentration of AF in the sump is temporarily high for a while and I have my NP Biopellets reactor there. Do you think that matters for the Nitrogen cycle?

drew2007 04/02/2014 03:37 PM

I used algae fix to get my gha under control and it seemed it work great. It did take me about 10-12 doses before I noticed it dying off though. I dunno if this had anything to do with the fact I run gfo and biopellets also. Mine is all white now and pretty much falling off my rocks.

Posseidon 04/05/2014 12:32 AM

I've done my 10th dose, last Thursday. The rocks look good with hardly any noticeable regrowth.

Damn these GHA are so stubborn. I'm not sure how I would have fought them without AF. They don't even die completely. Now I'm dealing with Zombie GHA :)
Its definitely not dinos or diatoms because I've fought them in the past and know what they look like. And I know this withered GHA because I had seen them change like that upon adding AF. Fortunately, these dead-looking GHA grow very slowly in my overflow (which gets the best light) and gravel. They don't seem to be on the rocks.

I've siphoned them out of my gravel and overflow yesterday. I'll observe for any regrowth.

My chaeto location in the sump is a little tricky and not easy to observe. However, it seems like there's a lot of detritus stuck in the chaeto. I'm not sure if that's from death of GHA that were stuck in them or is it the chaeto itself. If I touch it to remove it all the detritus gets spread in the sump. I can't work on that this weekend. So, hopefully I'll take them out next weekend when I'm doing a waterchange. Since, I'm moving ahead with 10+ doses now, I just need to decide if I should clean them up and place them back in the sump, or keep them out until I switch to maintenance dose.

WmTasker 04/11/2014 09:20 PM

After reading parts of this thread, I have seen people use the algae fix with just about every coral and invert. Has anyone used it on a tank with a clam or anenome? What happened? I am about to go buy some but dont want to loose my clam and anemone.

http://i841.photobucket.com/albums/z...E5895C1746.jpg

HighlandReefer 04/11/2014 09:27 PM

I used AF on both with no apparent negative effects. You would want to remove as much algae as you can before dosing.

Posseidon 04/11/2014 11:32 PM

I've got Ritteri Anemone and did not notice any issues with it. I've done 12 doses so far.

WmTasker 04/12/2014 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by HighlandReefer (Post 22653430)
I used AF on both with no apparent negative effects. You would want to remove as much algae as you can before dosing.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Posseidon (Post 22653669)
I've got Ritteri Anemone and did not notice any issues with it. I've done 12 doses so far.

Thanks. Maybe I'll give it a try and hope for the best.

mos90 04/12/2014 09:43 AM

I had no problems with my rbta's. My urchins dont seem to like it too much. Lost a few snails.

WmTasker 04/12/2014 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by mos90 (Post 22654488)
I had no problems with my rbta's. My urchins dont seem to like it too much. Lost a few snails.

I have two lettuce nudibranch that I'm guessing I will loose from either the chemicals or staring.

Posseidon 04/12/2014 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mos90 (Post 22654488)
I had no problems with my rbta's. My urchins dont seem to like it too much. Lost a few snails.


I have a few snails too and did not notice any issues with them. In fact, I see some baby snails now. I normally dose in the overflow box. Do you dose directly in Display tank?

mos90 04/13/2014 06:19 AM

No. In the sump before the return. It could be my tusk picking on them.

WmTasker 04/14/2014 07:49 PM

My algae fix will be here on thursday. I haven't had a chance to read the direction, but from what I have gathered on here is that I dose every three days. Do I have to do a water changed every three days also? Do you take all the carbon out of your filters?

bertoni 04/14/2014 08:09 PM

I'd probably remove the carbon unless the directions said otherwise. Water changes probably aren't required, but might help reduce the nutrient load if a lot of algae dies quickly.

ganjero 04/15/2014 11:25 AM

WmTasker I had no issues with clams and anemones when using AF, but as I posted in the other thread it will not do much for what you have (Bryopsis). I apologize because I believe you bought AF based on my recommendation thinking the pictures showed hairalgae. I thought I was fast enough to ID the algae better and made new recommendations.

See this post from this thread http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...postcount=1975

From your other pics this is Bryopsis
http://i841.photobucket.com/albums/z...085B502D17.jpg
http://i841.photobucket.com/albums/z...1F0BAF18AC.jpg

WmTasker 04/15/2014 11:52 AM

There's no need to apologize. I would never get upset at someone that is using their time to help me. I'll most likely just put in another order for the tech m and Salifert test kit. I was thinking about getting in a 2 part cal/alk supplement anyway. So I can use this time to hit the free shipping price.

Off subject: Has anyone used Two Little Fish C Balance 2 part dosing?

bertoni 04/15/2014 03:10 PM

I haven't used C Balance personally, but it gets reasonable reviews, and it should be a fine product. All of the 2-parts seem to work well, although the cost per unit of supplement might vary. I used B-Ionic for years, and then switched to the DIY version.

Posseidon 04/16/2014 11:15 PM

AlgaeFix Marine to control Hair Algae
 
I need some experienced guidance here.

A few months back, my gravel bed looked bright green before I had a GHA breakout in my tank. Here's an old pic to show that.

http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/...ps8ce4d9cd.jpg

Now, after 12-13 doses, growth of GHA on the rocks is almost gone. However, I'm getting similar green patches on my gravel again. I've been siphoning the gravel, but they come back in a couple of days. I'm not sure if these are GHA in their infant stage. Here's a pic.

http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/...pspfubomow.jpg

I'm switching to weekly dosage now. But don't know how to keep my gravel in check. Anyone faced something like that?

mos90 04/17/2014 08:32 AM

My sand is exactly the same. I couldn't seem to get rid of it so I've slowly removing the sand. Switching to BB.

bertoni 04/17/2014 12:24 PM

There are a lot of approaches to dealing with microbial pests on sandbeds. I might start with some GFO. What's running in the system now for filtration?

Posseidon 04/18/2014 12:11 AM

AlgaeFix Marine to control Hair Algae
 
Here's my filtration in sequential order.
I've just added filter sock on sump-inlet about 2 weeks ago.
I run Biopellets in a Reactor followed by Skimmer.
I then have a chamber of macralgae, chaeto and caulerpa. (I took the macroalgae out last week while cleaning 3/4 of chambers in the sump. There was a lot of detritus under them and I didn't know if it was due to GHA or Macro dying, since I'm in 12+ doses. Currently, its not back in the sump, stored in another bucket with lights).
And then I have a GFO reactor before the return chamber. I had taken the GFO reactor offline while cleaning the sump last weekend. But didn't get time to install it back. So, its been offline for a week now. (My reactor has a divider to use two medias. I've used RowaCarbon for about 3 weeks before taking offline last weekend). I plan to install the GFO reactor back today.

My nitrates and phosphates used to be nil before starting AF. I think that's expected. However, my nitrates started climbing while using AF. I had my GFO running all the time when dosing AF (until last weekend), and it kept phosphates at zero (Salifert). I haven't tested since taking GFO offline. I'll test it today and post it if its greater than zero. However, my nitrates are at 10 now.

TankCla 04/19/2014 06:45 AM

Algae fix it doesn't work with bryopsis
This is after half a bottle and one dead SPS. Too much AglaeFix is harming Zooxanthella.
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/s...psafb9fd1a.jpg

WmTasker 04/19/2014 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TankCla (Post 22676369)
Algae fix it doesn't work with bryopsis
This is after half a bottle and one dead SPS. Too much AglaeFix is harming Zooxanthella.
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/s...psafb9fd1a.jpg


Lots of water changes then try Tech M.

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...ech+m+bryopsis

Posseidon 04/19/2014 08:03 AM

TankCla, in addition to WmTasker advice, try removing as much as possible. It really makes a big difference. I had lots of long flowing algae and manual scrubbing was too tedious. I used Algaemower and it made it so much easier. Plus, with Algaemower, none of the chopped algae goes back in the water but gets collected in a meshbag. Its a good tool to use alongwith AF or increasing Mg to fight these damn nuisance algae.

Good luck!

twistedfinn967 04/20/2014 06:21 AM

I'm having the substrate issue too.

MellowReefer 04/21/2014 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twistedfinn967 (Post 22679037)
I'm having the substrate issue too.

Me too. Reduced phosphate to 0.00 (hanna), nitrate has always been zero, I spend so much time sifting it out of my sand every weekend. I've been considering AF but don't like the idea of adding this stuff without knowing long term consequences. Gradually going BB I guess.


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