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ctbear 06/11/2017 02:09 AM

LF: Wrasse for eating flatworms
 
Looking for a wrasse to help take care of the polyclad flatworm problem that I've been having on my Torch coral. I've already Bayer dipped twice to kill the adult worms and scraped off the eggs couple weeks ago. However, I just had to scrape off more eggs again today. I suspect:headwalls: there may be one hiding in the rocks and laying eggs on the Torch Coral...the torch coral has not been happy lately.

According to what I've ready, it seems like a six-line or melanurus (Hoeven's) wrasse may be able to help...

Any advice is welcomed thanks.

mmarro99 06/11/2017 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by ctbear (Post 25113092)
Looking for a wrasse to help take care of the polyclad flatworm problem that I've been having on my Torch coral. I've already Bayer dipped twice to kill the adult worms and scraped off the eggs couple weeks ago. However, I just had to scrape off more eggs again today. I suspect:headwalls: there may be one hiding in the rocks and laying eggs on the Torch Coral...the torch coral has not been happy lately.

According to what I've ready, it seems like a six-line or melanurus (Hoeven's) wrasse may be able to help...

Any advice is welcomed thanks.

I've read Springer damsels will take care of flat worms too just a thought

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dodgerblew 06/11/2017 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by ctbear (Post 25113092)
Looking for a wrasse to help take care of the polyclad flatworm problem that I've been having on my Torch coral. I've already Bayer dipped twice to kill the adult worms and scraped off the eggs couple weeks ago. However, I just had to scrape off more eggs again today. I suspect:headwalls: there may be one hiding in the rocks and laying eggs on the Torch Coral...the torch coral has not been happy lately.

According to what I've ready, it seems like a six-line or melanurus (Hoeven's) wrasse may be able to help...

Any advice is welcomed thanks.

Are you certain it's a polyclad flatworm, they're the large ones and they feed on clams and snails I think or is it the red/rust colored planarian flatworm? If it's a polyclad I don't think there's any fish that preys on it but not positive. If it's planaria then the wrasses you've mentioned will eat them but not guaranteed. I wouldn't get a sixline as they're punks. Yellow coris or the coris wrasses in particular are known to feed on them. There's also the chemical route for planaria but doesn't work on polyclad

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Originally Posted by mmarro99 (Post 25113093)
I've read Springer damsels will take care of flat worms too just a thought

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Springeri Damsels eat red bugs not flatworms

mmarro99 06/11/2017 09:27 AM

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh....php?t=1620388
I read this so figured cool so they eat flat worms. Sorry

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Speaker73 06/11/2017 10:02 AM

When I had flat worms my yellow coris wrasse kept them in check very well until it decided to go carpet surfing....

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johnike 06/11/2017 10:36 AM

If it's Planaria, try a Leopard Wrasse of some sort.
I have a pair of Potters the wiped out a horrible infestation in a week.
And cover thine tanks with mesh!! Them wrasses are all jumpers.

All Delight 06/11/2017 10:54 AM

I have a melanrus wrasse for $10 in long beach.

ctbear 06/11/2017 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by dodgerblew (Post 25113238)
Are you certain it's a polyclad flatworm, they're the large ones and they feed on clams and snails I think or is it the red/rust colored planarian flatworm? If it's a polyclad I don't think there's any fish that preys on it but not positive. If it's planaria then the wrasses you've mentioned will eat them but not guaranteed. I wouldn't get a sixline as they're punks. Yellow coris or the coris wrasses in particular are known to feed on them. There's also the chemical route for planaria but doesn't work on polyclad

Springeri Damsels eat red bugs not flatworms

I do not believe it is planaria. The worm and eggs look just like the ones posted here:

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh....php?t=2414643

In fact, my torch coral looked just like that before I dipped in bayer and scraped off the eggs. :hmm4:

stryker 06/11/2017 11:47 AM

Those look gross!

dodgerblew 06/11/2017 03:07 PM

Well then you're correct. You are dealing with polyclad flatworms. Your link is good and I'd try just that, setting up a trap with clams and draw them in and then siphoning out. Do you have snails and if so has the population been declining?

ctbear 06/11/2017 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by dodgerblew (Post 25113618)
Well then you're correct. You are dealing with polyclad flatworms. Your link is good and I'd try just that, setting up a trap with clams and draw them in and then siphoning out. Do you have snails and if so has the population been declining?

My snail population has not been affected. So a wrasse would not be effective against polyclad flatworms?

dodgerblew 06/11/2017 05:41 PM

Not in my research. They're pretty big. If you go to the other big forum, message Hunter/evolved is his username and ask him. He's a wrasse expert. Or, post in the fish forum here on RC

misterjimmy 06/11/2017 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by All Delight (Post 25113429)
I have a melanrus wrasse for $10 in long beach.

I can vouch on the melanrus wrasse it does the job.

ctbear 06/25/2017 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by All Delight (Post 25113429)
I have a melanrus wrasse for $10 in long beach.

Thanks again for the colorful wrasse. He's been having fun burrowing through out my tank. Don't see any more flatworms/eggs on my Duncan for now...hopefully they don't pop up down the road again.

dodgerblew 06/26/2017 08:25 AM

That's interesting. So you think the melanurus eradicated the polyclad flatworms?

ctbear 06/27/2017 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by dodgerblew (Post 25129110)
That's interesting. So you think the melanurus eradicated the polyclad flatworms?

Can't say for certain as that Torch coral was recently dipped. I can only cross my fingers and hope they don't come back some time down the road.

FishNDip 06/27/2017 08:32 PM

+ on springer damsels. Small cute compact little fishies that only get aggressive towards you! (meaning your hand) Also I've heard they eat flatworms. Planning on getting one myself. Good luck mate.

CAMPGE 06/29/2017 07:41 PM

I have a Christmas wrasse


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dodgerblew 06/29/2017 10:15 PM

There's been mention of the Springeri Damsel being a flatworm eater. I have one and bought it because I have a non toxic type of tiny whitish flatworm which actually can sustain itself with light. It's harmless but annoying to me when I see it on my glass. The Damsel doesn't touch it. When I spoke with Dave about it who has seven or so Springeri in his outdoor system he let me know they don't eat flatworms they eat red bugs. It's a gorgeous fish, non aggressive and completely reef safe and I'll probably get another one just because they're so pretty. But, eats flake and frozen but not flatworms in my tank (wish it did)

dannyfish 06/30/2017 03:20 PM

Dodgerblew thanks for the heads up. Do you know if Springer damsels are compatible with Anthias? Thanks


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dodgerblew 06/30/2017 03:50 PM

Yes they are. My suggestion with damsels is add them last

dannyfish 06/30/2017 08:34 PM

Thanks a million Dodgerblew!


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bobafet1 06/30/2017 10:59 PM

If the melanurus wrasse doesn't cut it I have a twin spot wrasse that will decimate whatever critters you have.

dannyfish 07/01/2017 10:37 PM

Dodgerblew do you concur with bobafet?


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dodgerblew 07/01/2017 10:52 PM

I won't agree or disagree. All fish are different. Some wrasses eat flatworms, some don't. Some wrasses go after inverts, some don't. Some angels nip on sps, some on LPS, some on Zoas, some on all and some are good citizens. They're fish and unpredictable. The OP is battling polyclad flatworms not planaria flatworms or the type that are present in my reef tank. Polyclad flatworms are large and I know of no types of wrasse that are polyclad flatworm predators. Im interested to know if the buggers return after the OP added the melanarus wrasse.

ctbear 07/01/2017 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by dodgerblew (Post 25135314)
I won't agree or disagree. All fish are different. Some wrasses eat flatworms, some don't. Some wrasses go after inverts, some don't. Some angels nip on sps, some on LPS, some on Zoas, some on all and some are good citizens. They're fish and unpredictable. The OP is battling polyclad flatworms not planaria flatworms or the type that are present in my reef tank. Polyclad flatworms are large and I know of no types of wrasse that are polyclad flatworm predators. Im interested to know if the buggers return after the OP added the melanarus wrasse.

As of today, still no signs of the flatworms (*crossing fingers). Whether that was due to the addition of the Wrasse or my dipping, I can not say with certainty, though I am leaning more towards the dipping as I have yet to see the Wrasse nip at/near the Torch coral. Then again, I am not always watching my tank.

ctbear 07/01/2017 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by bobafet1 (Post 25134454)
If the melanurus wrasse doesn't cut it I have a twin spot wrasse that will decimate whatever critters you have.

omg that wrasse grows up to 2' ?! :eek2:

FishNDip 07/02/2017 12:37 AM

Woops
 
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Originally Posted by dodgerblew (Post 25133459)
There's been mention of the Springeri Damsel being a flatworm eater. I have one and bought it because I have a non toxic type of tiny whitish flatworm which actually can sustain itself with light. It's harmless but annoying to me when I see it on my glass. The Damsel doesn't touch it. When I spoke with Dave about it who has seven or so Springeri in his outdoor system he let me know they don't eat flatworms they eat red bugs. It's a gorgeous fish, non aggressive and completely reef safe and I'll probably get another one just because they're so pretty. But, eats flake and frozen but not flatworms in my tank (wish it did)


:hmm4: Woops! That's right! Springers eat red bugs not flatworms! :celeb1: :spin2:

dodgerblew 07/02/2017 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by FishNDip (Post 25135345)
:hmm4: Woops! That's right! Springers eat red bugs not flatworms! :celeb1: :spin2:

Actually there's thread after thread confirming what you and other poster said regarding springeri eating flatworm. That's why I bought it. I can confirm that mine doesn't eat the type that I have

FishNDip 07/02/2017 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by dodgerblew (Post 25135472)
Actually there's thread after thread confirming what you and other poster said regarding springeri eating flatworm. That's why I bought it. I can confirm that mine doesn't eat the type that I have


Gotcha, Thanks for letting me know. Going to get them anyways because of there looks and temperament. :beer:

bobafet1 07/02/2017 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ctbear (Post 25135331)
omg that wrasse grows up to 2' ?! :eek2:

I wouldn't doubt it. I should probably donate it to a public aquarium


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