add octopus tank to reef system?

fullmonti · 10/01/2009, 07:24 AM

Would it be a good or bad idea to add a octopus tank to a existing reef system. I was thinking a 30-40gal with some LR & macroalgae. Then it hit me, what about the ink thing, or is there some other issue i haven't thought of that might not be compatible?

barnett8 · 10/01/2009, 04:02 PM

Bad idea, unless all you are going to keep are SPS and softies. I guessing on those two, but I would think that they would be ok with an octo.

fullmonti · 10/01/2009, 11:01 PM

no no, sorry I meant as a separate tank, kinda like a refug/frag tank, just running on same filter & water system, nothing in with him.

Lmecher · 10/03/2009, 08:25 AM

I am in the process of setting up a tank for a couple O. mercatoris. Some corals are fine with them, I know palays and LPS will sting them. Light requirements for sps are incompatable with low light levels preferred by octopus. Have you checked out this site dedicated to cephalopods?
http://www.tonmo.com/forums/

fullmonti · 10/03/2009, 06:58 PM

OK let me try this another way!

I have a reef system in place now, you know display tank, sump, skimmer, fug, frag tank.

Would there be a problem adding another tank to this system with nothing in this new tank but a octopus. This new tank would share the sump, skimmer ect. with the reef display tank
but would only have a octopus in it. Is there some danger to either the octopus or the display tank? Or should a octopus have a stand alone system?

broke1 · 10/04/2009, 09:29 PM

I guess I was the only one that the original post made sense to. You are setting up a seperate tank for the Octopus, but want it tied into the same system as the rest.

I know they are a little dirtier as far as eating and waste but I would say with a well established enough system, and a big enough skimmer, why not. I would definately keep an eye on Nitrates though, maybe there will be an increase, maybe there won't.

I have actually wanted to do this, they are just really cool little critters.

bohannbj · 12/19/2010, 09:35 PM

I'm setting up the same thing right now. The more water and filtration, the better the octo will do. Just make sure the drains along with everything else is covered by some mesh. Also be sure to keep it out of the high intensity lighting from your reef.

fullmonti · 12/19/2010, 11:39 PM

I kinda put this out of my head. The more I thought about how hard it would be to keep & get attached to such smart creature when its live expectancy is just a year or two seemed to me to be to hard.

66deuce · 12/24/2010, 02:09 PM

Are these creatures able to escape tanks?

fullmonti · 12/24/2010, 10:09 PM

From every thing I know about them, they are maybe the best escape artist you can have. Also very smart.

SushiGirl · 12/24/2010, 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 66deuce

Are these creatures able to escape tanks?

Easily. And consider that these are good-sized octopuses (plural is not octopi, FYI). The ones you'd get in a home aquarium are tiny, and can fit through even smaller spaces. Plus, they can open lids, unscrew tops off of jars, etc.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...oKwrAKTxfmZBw#

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCAIedFgdY0

loneracer05 · 01/25/2011, 07:28 PM

this can be done as long as your skimmer can handle it.as for their escaping, if your not sure if your tank is escape proof and you put one in youll know soon if its not

jdyer88 · 02/02/2011, 06:36 PM

I had an old timer tell me that he had a dedicated octo tank, and a reef system accross the room. He said he tried everything he could to keep his ceph in its display but it always found a way out. Not only that, it would get out, scoot over to the reef tank, help itselg to whatever little critter it was hungry for, them go BACK to it's own tank. I think I will leave these guys to public aquariums.

Docsb79 · 02/03/2011, 12:52 PM

According to National Geographic or whatever I was watching one day they can get through any opening that is bigger then the gap between their eyes. That is the smallest solid portion of their body.

Lmecher · 02/03/2011, 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Docsb79

According to National Geographic or whatever I was watching one day they can get through any opening that is bigger then the gap between their eyes. That is the smallest solid portion of their body.

You mean the largest solid part of an octopus. Yes, it is this cartilage between the eyes that dictates the size of an opening they can fit through. I was previously under the impression it was the size of the beak.
I saw the same show, it was fascinating.

skeeter_ca · 02/03/2011, 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdyer88

I had an old timer tell me that he had a dedicated octo tank, and a reef system accross the room. He said he tried everything he could to keep his ceph in its display but it always found a way out. Not only that, it would get out, scoot over to the reef tank, help itselg to whatever little critter it was hungry for, them go BACK to it's own tank. I think I will leave these guys to public aquariums.

That cracks me up. Even if it might not be true.

jdyer88 · 02/03/2011, 08:51 PM

yea me too...I know it may not be true but it is a good story...fish stories are not just for fisherman dude

10/01/2009, 07:24 AM	#1
fullmonti now is the time Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: chattanooga tn Posts: 1,097	add octopus tank to reef system? Would it be a good or bad idea to add a octopus tank to a existing reef system. I was thinking a 30-40gal with some LR & macroalgae. Then it hit me, what about the ink thing, or is there some other issue i haven't thought of that might not be compatible?

10/01/2009, 04:02 PM	#2
barnett8 Registered Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Doylestown PA Posts: 604	Bad idea, unless all you are going to keep are SPS and softies. I guessing on those two, but I would think that they would be ok with an octo. __________________ Member of the College Reefers Club (its not what you think I SWEAR!!) Almost 10 years in the hobby! Current Tank Info: 40g BR reef

10/04/2009, 09:29 PM	#6
broke1 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: IL Posts: 1,721	I guess I was the only one that the original post made sense to. You are setting up a seperate tank for the Octopus, but want it tied into the same system as the rest. I know they are a little dirtier as far as eating and waste but I would say with a well established enough system, and a big enough skimmer, why not. I would definately keep an eye on Nitrates though, maybe there will be an increase, maybe there won't. I have actually wanted to do this, they are just really cool little critters. __________________ Removed. Current Tank Info: Too big, yet too small

12/19/2010, 09:35 PM	#7
bohannbj Gone Fishin' Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 166	I'm setting up the same thing right now. The more water and filtration, the better the octo will do. Just make sure the drains along with everything else is covered by some mesh. Also be sure to keep it out of the high intensity lighting from your reef. __________________ Beware of the forum Moo Moo ladies, they can't be reasoned with. Current Tank Info: 270+180 + 75= 525 & 65 + 15= 80

10/01/2009, 11:01 PM	#3
fullmonti now is the time Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: chattanooga tn Posts: 1,097	no no, sorry I meant as a separate tank, kinda like a refug/frag tank, just running on same filter & water system, nothing in with him.

10/03/2009, 08:25 AM	#4
Lmecher Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 1,337	I am in the process of setting up a tank for a couple O. mercatoris. Some corals are fine with them, I know palays and LPS will sting them. Light requirements for sps are incompatable with low light levels preferred by octopus. Have you checked out this site dedicated to cephalopods? http://www.tonmo.com/forums/

10/03/2009, 06:58 PM	#5
fullmonti now is the time Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: chattanooga tn Posts: 1,097	OK let me try this another way! I have a reef system in place now, you know display tank, sump, skimmer, fug, frag tank. Would there be a problem adding another tank to this system with nothing in this new tank but a octopus. This new tank would share the sump, skimmer ect. with the reef display tank but would only have a octopus in it. Is there some danger to either the octopus or the display tank? Or should a octopus have a stand alone system?

12/19/2010, 11:39 PM	#8
fullmonti now is the time Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: chattanooga tn Posts: 1,097	I kinda put this out of my head. The more I thought about how hard it would be to keep & get attached to such smart creature when its live expectancy is just a year or two seemed to me to be to hard.

12/24/2010, 02:09 PM	#9
66deuce Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Arlington TX Posts: 84	Are these creatures able to escape tanks?

12/24/2010, 10:09 PM	#10
fullmonti now is the time Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: chattanooga tn Posts: 1,097	From every thing I know about them, they are maybe the best escape artist you can have. Also very smart.

01/25/2011, 07:28 PM	#12
loneracer05 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 69	this can be done as long as your skimmer can handle it.as for their escaping, if your not sure if your tank is escape proof and you put one in youll know soon if its not

02/02/2011, 06:36 PM	#13
jdyer88 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Riverside, California Posts: 434	I had an old timer tell me that he had a dedicated octo tank, and a reef system accross the room. He said he tried everything he could to keep his ceph in its display but it always found a way out. Not only that, it would get out, scoot over to the reef tank, help itselg to whatever little critter it was hungry for, them go BACK to it's own tank. I think I will leave these guys to public aquariums.

02/03/2011, 12:52 PM	#14
Docsb79 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Spartanburg, SC Posts: 17	According to National Geographic or whatever I was watching one day they can get through any opening that is bigger then the gap between their eyes. That is the smallest solid portion of their body.

02/03/2011, 08:51 PM	#17
jdyer88 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Riverside, California Posts: 434	yea me too...I know it may not be true but it is a good story...fish stories are not just for fisherman dude