ATO on New Apex

Ajae · 01/06/2017, 08:33 AM

I ordered the ATO with the Neptune connection, it comes with the min-pin connection. When I plugged that into the head unit it shuts down and resets. I was under the impression that I wouldn't need a breakout box for this. Some help this please.

Ajae · 01/06/2017, 12:07 PM

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MJNTWise · 01/08/2017, 03:08 PM

From there web site....

"Neptune Apex uses a "minidin-8" style plug. To use this, simply plug into the port marked "I/O" on the controller, and program according to instructions If you already have something plugged in to that port, you will want to use their Breakout Box and select the "bare wire" option below"

Ajae · 01/09/2017, 06:33 AM

Yes I know, that's why I ordered the minidin style plug, because I don't have anything plugged into that port. My question wasn't if I ordered the correct plug, t was how to have it recognized so I can program it.

"Neptune Apex uses a "minidin-8" style plug. To use this, simply plug into the port marked "I/O" on the controller, and program according to instructions If you already have something plugged in to that port, you will want to use their Breakout Box and select the "bare wire" option below"[/QUOTE]

Avast Marine · 01/09/2017, 06:48 AM

I think the confusion came from the Neptune unit resetting itself. This is unique to the new Apex units and I think it is a good thing and they may implement it on older Apex units with a firmware update. The unit used to occasionally require a reboot to "see" a switch in dashboard so the auto reboot gives you one less thing to think about. Either way we worked out this issue via a support ticket and it is running well now.

The switches themselves are not programmed, the outlet is programmed to perform an action based on a switch position so in all cases it is best to program your outlet first, then plug in the switch, let it reboot and test the outlet to see if it performs the desired action.

Ajae · 01/09/2017, 07:01 AM

I was able to get it working this is what I sent to Dan over at Avast, the problem seems to be with the Newest Apex hardware.

Ok so it looks like I got it! Since I'm running the “New” Apex it might differ from what some people have experienced. When you plug in head unit into the minidin connection on the main unit on the Apex the whole system resets and the power bar goes orange, however the main unit goes blue. I then needed to reconnect the apex to my home wireless just like you do when you first get the unit. after that you might go to the power bar and select update firmware (even though the Apex will say it’s running on the latest version) after that SW1 showed as “closed” I connected a pump into a outlet set it up as ATO and ran the following code:

Fallback OFF
Set OFF
If Switch1 CLOSED Then ON

The system now works, I blew into the tube and the ATO pump turns off and on when not. Like I said maybe I'm having this issue because I'm running the 2016 Apex unit

Ajae · 01/09/2017, 07:08 AM

If anyone needs help setting it up let me know. The ATO is running great.

illumnae · 01/29/2017, 11:21 AM

Is the default switch SW1? I just set up my Avast ATO on the new 2016 Apex (took me 3 hours due to having to troubleshoot "apex.local" not working) and wanted to make sure I programmed it right.

Thanks!

Ajae · 02/01/2017, 12:42 PM

yes it is, you have to reset, then reconnect the apex.

01/06/2017, 08:33 AM	#1
Ajae Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 171	ATO on New Apex I ordered the ATO with the Neptune connection, it comes with the min-pin connection. When I plugged that into the head unit it shuts down and resets. I was under the impression that I wouldn't need a breakout box for this. Some help this please.

01/08/2017, 03:08 PM	#3
MJNTWise 7 Year Newbie Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Weeki Wachee, Fl. Posts: 1,761 Blog Entries: 1	From there web site.... "Neptune Apex uses a "minidin-8" style plug. To use this, simply plug into the port marked "I/O" on the controller, and program according to instructions If you already have something plugged in to that port, you will want to use their Breakout Box and select the "bare wire" option below" __________________ https://www.*********.com/threads/new-dream-tank-300-gallon.674598/ Current Tank Info: 180 gal. 40B gal. sump. 100 lbs live rock, Duel Cor 20 return pump,30"lifereef skimmer,4 MP 40, 4 XR15w Pro 4 with 2 50/50 reefbrites, Apex Control

01/09/2017, 06:48 AM	#5
Avast Marine RC Sponsor Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Northern VA Posts: 2,446	I think the confusion came from the Neptune unit resetting itself. This is unique to the new Apex units and I think it is a good thing and they may implement it on older Apex units with a firmware update. The unit used to occasionally require a reboot to "see" a switch in dashboard so the auto reboot gives you one less thing to think about. Either way we worked out this issue via a support ticket and it is running well now. The switches themselves are not programmed, the outlet is programmed to perform an action based on a switch position so in all cases it is best to program your outlet first, then plug in the switch, let it reboot and test the outlet to see if it performs the desired action. __________________ Dan Don't rush art, you get bad art.

01/09/2017, 07:01 AM	#6
Ajae Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 171	I was able to get it working this is what I sent to Dan over at Avast, the problem seems to be with the Newest Apex hardware. Ok so it looks like I got it! Since I'm running the “New” Apex it might differ from what some people have experienced. When you plug in head unit into the minidin connection on the main unit on the Apex the whole system resets and the power bar goes orange, however the main unit goes blue. I then needed to reconnect the apex to my home wireless just like you do when you first get the unit. after that you might go to the power bar and select update firmware (even though the Apex will say it’s running on the latest version) after that SW1 showed as “closed” I connected a pump into a outlet set it up as ATO and ran the following code: Fallback OFF Set OFF If Switch1 CLOSED Then ON The system now works, I blew into the tube and the ATO pump turns off and on when not. Like I said maybe I'm having this issue because I'm running the 2016 Apex unit Last edited by Ajae; 01/09/2017 at 07:04 AM. Reason: mispelling

01/06/2017, 12:07 PM	#2
Ajae Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 171	...

01/09/2017, 06:33 AM	#4
Ajae Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 171	Yes I know, that's why I ordered the minidin style plug, because I don't have anything plugged into that port. My question wasn't if I ordered the correct plug, t was how to have it recognized so I can program it. "Neptune Apex uses a "minidin-8" style plug. To use this, simply plug into the port marked "I/O" on the controller, and program according to instructions If you already have something plugged in to that port, you will want to use their Breakout Box and select the "bare wire" option below"[/QUOTE]

01/09/2017, 07:08 AM	#7
Ajae Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 171	If anyone needs help setting it up let me know. The ATO is running great.

01/29/2017, 11:21 AM	#8
illumnae Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Singapore Posts: 322	Is the default switch SW1? I just set up my Avast ATO on the new 2016 Apex (took me 3 hours due to having to troubleshoot "apex.local" not working) and wanted to make sure I programmed it right. Thanks!

02/01/2017, 12:42 PM	#9
Ajae Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 171	yes it is, you have to reset, then reconnect the apex.