Red bugs vs Aquarium Keeper

UrbanSage · 01/12/2007, 08:35 PM

The one time I traded with a person I didn't know I caught a bug, a red one actually, and not just one. It is a lesson of having to treat corals as well as quarentining. I can't even hold it against the other hobbyist since I didn't treat or quarentine.

A few weeks back I was looking at some new corals I had bought a month earlier. I had been wondering what could be causing the lack of polyp extension in one of the new corals, and then I saw something I had never seen before. I thought I could see movement, tiny orange/red dots moving around. I took a picture with the intend of magnifying it on the PC. (The following picture is a later one from about two weeks after finding a very few red bugs).

And a bit closer.

Never having experienced this before a bit of panic sets in. How do I treat this? Is there a "reefsafe" treatment? Do I need to invest in a quarentine system because of this? (Not thinking for the future yet).

After some questions to a number of locals from my area I found that redbugs are not a disaster, they are however unpleasant and the opinion was they needed to be dealt with.
So I got a hold of interceptor, mixed a batch of saltwater for a water change, got carbon ready and then I dumped the crushed pill in the tank, knowing the effect on crabs and shrimp being at worst the same as the effect on red bugs, hoping for the best.

After a few hours everyone is happy, the snails are acting funny though. Twisting around, of course then I find out that the snails are doing what they do best, scavenge. They are actually feeding on recently dead hermit crab.

Another hour or so and I begin seeing hermit crabs hanging out, or so I hope.

UrbanSage · 01/12/2007, 08:36 PM

But right now, I am hitting seven hours of treatment, and with a few unfortunate casualties, this is the result.

And this is another result

at this point it is still twitching after the snails have feasted on it.

So people, new reefers and old reefers alike

treat incomming livestock, don't help spreading this "Oceans STD".

UrbanSage · 01/13/2007, 11:58 AM

This morning everything that was alive last night is still doing good.

UrbanSage · 04/14/2007, 06:56 PM

Here it is a couple of months later.
Doing great!

Icefire · 04/14/2007, 07:00 PM

A whole pill? Isn't like 1/10 pill by 100g or something like it?

UrbanSage · 04/14/2007, 07:02 PM

Actually it was five scoops of a Salifert spoon

The post was not meant to be a walkthrough, there are far better ones out there than I can create.
More of a warning

Casino · 04/14/2007, 07:24 PM

So how many treatments did you do total?

UrbanSage · 04/14/2007, 07:30 PM

The initial results I show a picture of is after seven hours of the first treatment. The treatment is really efficient.
I did three treatments total five days apart from each other.

UrbanSage · 04/14/2007, 07:31 PM

The refugium has a good pod population once again and in a couple of months when I feel confident they are completely gone I will get some replacement shrimp....

Casino · 04/14/2007, 07:59 PM

Thanks for the info.

Bax · 04/14/2007, 08:05 PM

You did the right thing ... good luck!

SDguy · 04/14/2007, 08:27 PM

Happy to hear you did all three treatments. I have yet to figure out why people only do one. Number three for me happens tomorrow am.

UrbanSage · 04/14/2007, 09:41 PM

I read alot about having success with just one. I just figured, if I am going to kill my hermits, shrimp and pods I might as well do all three.

SDguy · 04/14/2007, 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by UrbanSage
I read alot about having success with just one. I just figured, if I am going to kill my hermits, shrimp and pods I might as well do all three.

Exactly...went through the trouble of capturing and moving my harlequins and cleaners, then killing my acro crabs....why not drop the other two bombs

UrbanSage · 04/14/2007, 09:47 PM

I tried to capture the shrimp....... I lack the skills

I hate having to kill my pets like that, but I wasn't about to tear down the rock because of it. Will be a nasty lesson learned about frag trading.

SDguy · 04/14/2007, 09:50 PM

Yeah, my pepps RIP

melev · 11/17/2007, 12:30 PM

What I treated my tank, I removed all the hermits and shrimp I could find. And a few survived irregardless of the three treatments (1x per week).

01/12/2007, 08:35 PM	#1
UrbanSage Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tea, SD Posts: 1,657	Red bugs vs Aquarium Keeper The one time I traded with a person I didn't know I caught a bug, a red one actually, and not just one. It is a lesson of having to treat corals as well as quarentining. I can't even hold it against the other hobbyist since I didn't treat or quarentine. A few weeks back I was looking at some new corals I had bought a month earlier. I had been wondering what could be causing the lack of polyp extension in one of the new corals, and then I saw something I had never seen before. I thought I could see movement, tiny orange/red dots moving around. I took a picture with the intend of magnifying it on the PC. (The following picture is a later one from about two weeks after finding a very few red bugs). And a bit closer. Never having experienced this before a bit of panic sets in. How do I treat this? Is there a "reefsafe" treatment? Do I need to invest in a quarentine system because of this? (Not thinking for the future yet). After some questions to a number of locals from my area I found that redbugs are not a disaster, they are however unpleasant and the opinion was they needed to be dealt with. So I got a hold of interceptor, mixed a batch of saltwater for a water change, got carbon ready and then I dumped the crushed pill in the tank, knowing the effect on crabs and shrimp being at worst the same as the effect on red bugs, hoping for the best. After a few hours everyone is happy, the snails are acting funny though. Twisting around, of course then I find out that the snails are doing what they do best, scavenge. They are actually feeding on recently dead hermit crab. Another hour or so and I begin seeing hermit crabs hanging out, or so I hope. __________________ You can't control the wind, but you can adjust your sails. Current Tank Info: 270 gallon reef.

01/12/2007, 08:36 PM	#2
UrbanSage Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tea, SD Posts: 1,657	But right now, I am hitting seven hours of treatment, and with a few unfortunate casualties, this is the result. And this is another result at this point it is still twitching after the snails have feasted on it. So people, new reefers and old reefers alike treat incomming livestock, don't help spreading this "Oceans STD". __________________ You can't control the wind, but you can adjust your sails. Current Tank Info: 270 gallon reef.

01/13/2007, 11:58 AM	#3
UrbanSage Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tea, SD Posts: 1,657	This morning everything that was alive last night is still doing good. __________________ You can't control the wind, but you can adjust your sails. Current Tank Info: 270 gallon reef.

04/14/2007, 06:56 PM	#4
UrbanSage Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tea, SD Posts: 1,657	Here it is a couple of months later. Doing great! __________________ You can't control the wind, but you can adjust your sails. Current Tank Info: 270 gallon reef.

04/14/2007, 07:00 PM	#5
Icefire Seasoned reefer Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: In Quebec, Canada Posts: 3,653	A whole pill? Isn't like 1/10 pill by 100g or something like it? __________________ Temp 80F, PH 8.5-8.0, Alk 6.8-7.2, Ca 430, Mg 1700, NO3 0-0.25, PO4 0.04, 34.4 PPT Lights @ 100% all others, 35% White Current Tank Info: 60g Cube, 120lbs live rocks, Hydra52 2x120W, 2 MP40+ 1 MP10 @ 70%, Phosban 550 GFO+Carbon, 200W Heater, SWC Skimmer, Kalk ATO, 150 gpd RODI

04/14/2007, 07:02 PM	#6
UrbanSage Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tea, SD Posts: 1,657	Actually it was five scoops of a Salifert spoon The post was not meant to be a walkthrough, there are far better ones out there than I can create. More of a warning __________________ You can't control the wind, but you can adjust your sails. Current Tank Info: 270 gallon reef.

04/14/2007, 07:24 PM	#7
Casino Tang Police Fugitive Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Providence, RI Posts: 2,981	So how many treatments did you do total? __________________ 29 Gal FOWLR ACJr MP10ESW Eshoppes PSK-100H T5 Lighting

04/14/2007, 07:30 PM	#8
UrbanSage Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tea, SD Posts: 1,657	The initial results I show a picture of is after seven hours of the first treatment. The treatment is really efficient. I did three treatments total five days apart from each other. __________________ You can't control the wind, but you can adjust your sails. Current Tank Info: 270 gallon reef.

04/14/2007, 07:31 PM	#9
UrbanSage Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tea, SD Posts: 1,657	The refugium has a good pod population once again and in a couple of months when I feel confident they are completely gone I will get some replacement shrimp.... __________________ You can't control the wind, but you can adjust your sails. Current Tank Info: 270 gallon reef.

04/14/2007, 07:59 PM	#10
Casino Tang Police Fugitive Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Providence, RI Posts: 2,981	Thanks for the info. __________________ 29 Gal FOWLR ACJr MP10ESW Eshoppes PSK-100H T5 Lighting

04/14/2007, 08:05 PM	#11
Bax Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: New Jersey Posts: 5,619	You did the right thing ... good luck! __________________ 150 gallon Perfecto with 1500 gph GH overflow / DIY stand-wine bar / Dart Return / SRO XP3000 Ext skimmer / 75 g frag / 40 g fuge / 40 g DIY sump / Orphek P156 & Kessil 150A Current Tank Info: 150 DT/ 40B fuge/ 75g frag/ 40 g sump/ SRO XP 3000 Ext/ TUNZEs & VorTechs circulation/Dart return/ MTC Pro Cal/ UV & Oz

04/14/2007, 08:27 PM	#12
SDguy Fish heads unite! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: San Diego Posts: 23,384	Happy to hear you did all three treatments. I have yet to figure out why people only do one. Number three for me happens tomorrow am. __________________ Peter SDMAS member Marine tanks since 1989. ><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º> ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. ><((((º> Current Tank Info: 240g butterfly and angel FOWLR. 15g QT.

04/14/2007, 09:41 PM	#13
UrbanSage Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tea, SD Posts: 1,657	I read alot about having success with just one. I just figured, if I am going to kill my hermits, shrimp and pods I might as well do all three. __________________ You can't control the wind, but you can adjust your sails. Current Tank Info: 270 gallon reef.

04/14/2007, 09:47 PM	#15
UrbanSage Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tea, SD Posts: 1,657	I tried to capture the shrimp....... I lack the skills I hate having to kill my pets like that, but I wasn't about to tear down the rock because of it. Will be a nasty lesson learned about frag trading. __________________ You can't control the wind, but you can adjust your sails. Current Tank Info: 270 gallon reef.

04/14/2007, 09:50 PM	#16
SDguy Fish heads unite! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: San Diego Posts: 23,384	Yeah, my pepps RIP __________________ Peter SDMAS member Marine tanks since 1989. ><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º> ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. ><((((º> Current Tank Info: 240g butterfly and angel FOWLR. 15g QT.

11/17/2007, 12:30 PM	#17
melev Moved On Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ft Worth, Tx Posts: 43,217	What I treated my tank, I removed all the hermits and shrimp I could find. And a few survived irregardless of the three treatments (1x per week).