Piper's Travis Tank

first-chevalier · 01/19/2007, 05:53 PM

Okay, the tank stand construction is underway. I'm not really sure what I'm doing as far as the posting part goes, but I'll learn along the way, I hope.

Here is (again, I hope) a picture of all the hardware currently purchased for the project surrounding the new Hitachi ten inch contractor table saw I was able to finagle for the project (it will also be used to build a leaf for our kitchen table and finish out the bathroom remodeling jobs). My daughter, who's tank this will be, is the one standing in the shot.

[IMG] http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/...19IMG_0468.jpg[/IMG]

I wasn't able to find the lights Travis suggested from lights of america, but these GE lights have the same color rating and a little more wattage so I think I'm okay (Travis?).

[IMG] http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/...19IMG_0466.jpg[/IMG]

I'll post more as the project continues. Any feedback is appreciated and welcome. Thanks.

first-chevalier · 01/21/2007, 01:58 PM

Worked on the stand this weekend as I don't have my acrylic solvent yet to make the overflow. should get that this week though. Here is teh stand underconstruction. I've got some red-oak veneer plywood I'll be skinning this thing with stained with tongue oil. Trying to find matching 90 degree trim in oak now.

Stand legs
[IMG] http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/...d-legs-JPG.jpg[/IMG]

Halfway assembled

The completed stand without any finishing work
[IMG] http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/...and-II-JPG.jpg[/IMG]

Found the lights at Lowes but didn't use LoA's. They had a GE brand that specifically lists the color at 6500k. Thought I'd give those a shot, but still ahve the receipt. I'm gonna throw up a post in the lighting forum to see what people think.

ALittleSalty · 01/21/2007, 02:01 PM

Looks good, you might want to put a support brace on the side supports to keep the wood from bowing out and collapsing. Plus it will allow you to nail the outer skin on in the middle as well as at the top and bottom. Jon

I am getting ready start building a stand myself for my AP 24.

How tall is your stand??

first-chevalier · 01/21/2007, 03:56 PM

Our stand is 36 inches.

On the stability question there shouldn't be an issue. There are two screws in every joint (everywhere board meets board) and they're 2 1/2 inches long. I've played with it a bit and there just isn't anywhere for it to go. Plus the panneling is just 1/4 inch redoak. shouldn't be any trouble attaching it and keeping it there.

What's an AP 24 (I'm new, can you tell)?

first-chevalier · 01/23/2007, 10:45 PM

In case anyone wonders/cares, here is how sturdy this stand is. Keep in mind it's designed to hold a 10g tank. Full with live rock and water that can't be more than 100 lbs. I weigh over 220.......

[IMG] http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/...Stand-Load.jpg[/IMG]

ALittleSalty · 01/23/2007, 11:22 PM

Looks like you had some fun surfing on your stand!!! LOL

An AP 24 is short for the Aquapod 24 tank by current usa. My stand will be roughly 25 w x 25 l x 45 h Jon

first-chevalier · 01/27/2007, 06:54 PM

I haven't been able to work much on the stand recently because the whole house has been foucsed on my daughter's fifth birthday, which happened today and is now over, hurray.

I was able to jump in and get the hood built, the 12 inch hinge installed, and route the stand for the 32 inch hinge. I'll try to skin the stand tomorrow and trim it as well as add the lights to the hood. If I get to work longer I'll add the shelves and be done except for staining.

Side of hood
[IMG] http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/4531/144719Lid.jpg[/IMG]

Back of hood
[IMG] http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/4531/144719Lid.jpg[/IMG]

Stand hinge

12 hood hinge
http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/...9Top-hinge.jpg

Piper and Gavin with the stand
http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/...vin-w-tank.jpg

Stand with the tank and the hinges

drummereef · 01/27/2007, 06:57 PM

Lookin good, first-chevalier! Will be cool to see it all filled up.

first-chevalier · 01/27/2007, 09:48 PM

Thanks. Given this is my first attempt at salt I'm debating LFS caribean LR or clubbing up for the good stuff and ordering from Tampabay saltwater. I'm worried I kill everything then my money is down the drain, literaly. I'm hopping to have rock in it on or around the first of Feb.

first-chevalier · 01/28/2007, 07:13 PM

Finaly the birthday party is over and I was able to get back to the tank construction. The short version is I'm almost done. I have one panel of redoak to put on the hood, then trim it, and stain the whole thing. Lastly I still need to drill the back and build the overflow. I'll take care of that this week.

Shot of the front panel in redoak

Shot of the lights on

Shot of the lights off and my DIY reflector

Back of the hood with the lights on
[IMG] http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/...ights-back.jpg[/IMG]

Side shot with the lights on

Back with the lights on

The main area with the door open
[IMG] http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/...Open-Front.jpg[/IMG]

Just the tank with the lights on (that's a tempurature guage in there)
[IMG] http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/...19Tank-top.jpg[/IMG]

Temperature with teh lights on after about 1/2 an hour. The area where the tank is was 67 degrees when this was taken
[IMG] http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/...9Tank-Temp.jpg[/IMG]

Finally the whole thing. The flash washes out the hood lights being on but it kind of makes the tank glow.

I hope to begin putting sand, rock, and water in by Thursday.

first-chevalier · 01/30/2007, 08:22 PM

I've had a set-back. I was drilling my tank (through the back) and, well the picture speaks volumes...

[IMG] http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/...ttered-10g.jpg[/IMG]

Gotta get a new tank. Perhaps I'll find someone local who drills glass for me.

Rudy00 · 01/31/2007, 10:23 AM

how were you drilling it?

first-chevalier · 01/31/2007, 08:52 PM

Dremel with a diamond bit, water washing over the work area, absolutely NO pressure at all. I went to the LFS and was told all tanks are now made with tempered glass. However, I got a perfecto tank and am debating trying it anyway. I'm also debating making a tank from 1/4 inch acrylic. We'll see.

first-chevalier · 02/01/2007, 08:54 PM

Houston we have a hole!

Thanks to the strength from our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ I am able to report you CAN successfully drill a Perfecto Manufacturing 10g tank IF it does not have the orange sticker on it.

I was praying the entire time and when the bit dropped through to the other side on the pilot hole I nearly crapped myself and dropped the dremel. It's not the neatest job cutting and hopefully it will seal but it's a hole and the bulkhead goes through it.

I filled it and emptied it about five times testing the leaks. Leaked every time. I didn't do a very clean job cutting the gaskets apart so I'm gonna get another one and try to do a better job. That will also give me a spacer for the outside to hopefully help with the seal. Anyway, it's on to the acrylic work for the clafo, painting, and then installing all the acrylic in both the overflow and the sump. Hurray, progress.

zma21 · 02/01/2007, 09:03 PM

Good luck!

first-chevalier · 02/07/2007, 08:21 AM

Update:
I did the flow test last night and discovered my mag model 3 pump at 350gph just isn't going to have the juice to get good flow in my tank. I've got to work wtih that and see how I can improve tank flow. I'd like to avoid buying a new pump, but I don't think I have an option due to finances. My only other option is to move the fuge up and shorten the 1/2 inch feed line from the pump to the display tank.

However, I have a new discovery. My hood is too tight. I know this because as I was putting my light hood back on the tank cracked. On the up side I now know that all the pains on this particular 10g tank from perfecto were in fact aneeled glass and could have been drilled. I was also able to fix the leeking bulkhead but now have a second chance to drill a better hole. I plan on picking up a new tank and 1 1/4 inch diamond hole saw today.

first-chevalier · 02/08/2007, 08:40 PM

Okay, I officialy suck at silicon. I've installed the acrylic walls to my 5.5g fuge for the tank but I make no warranties or guarantees for my silicon job, lol. Here are some shots of my first attempt ever at running silicon on glass/acrylic. I have a long way to go. Flow test setup shots to follow.

this first shot is the corner where the overflow is going to enter the tank.

This next is a shot long ways in the fuge. The background piece is wehre teh overflow will enter, then some sand and rock, then teh bubble trap.
[IMG] http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/...licon-Fuge.jpg[/IMG]

Top down shot of same

Fuge setup for the flow test

The whole setup for the flow test, and yes I know I have a lot of extra pipe on teh 1/2 inch return. this was just to test teh design. water moved so successfull. Not a lot moved, just movement.

james deluca · 02/08/2007, 10:20 PM

what kind of lighting are you uesing and will they work??

first-chevalier · 02/09/2007, 09:26 AM

Not sure I understand the 'will they work' question, but I plan to just use a simple clip on office light, or install a couple corss members to create a second shelf and screw the lighting into the underside of that.

first-chevalier · 02/09/2007, 09:26 AM

You were asking about the fuge ligihting, right?

jbittner · 02/09/2007, 10:03 AM

that is a heck of alot of work for a 10 gal tank!

Looking good though.

first-chevalier · 02/09/2007, 11:37 AM

It's fun. I could have cobbled some stuff together and thrown it on a cheap ole stand but that just looks cluttered. Travis had a shot of his stand next to the Wally World metal stand and it's night and day. Plus I needed an excuse to buy a 10 inch contractors table saw....

james deluca · 02/09/2007, 02:38 PM

sorry was asking about the main tank lights and was wondering what you would keep in the tank?

first-chevalier · 02/12/2007, 09:55 PM

The short update is WE HAVE A TANK!

The longer one is to follow and I have more pictures in the gallery than posted here.

K, we drilled the new tank, painted the back, re-ran the flow test. Still had a small leak in the gaskets so I fixed that by siliconing the bulkhead and strapping the drain tube to the stand so it can't torque the bulkhead. Then I acrylic cemented the calfo together, painted and installed it.

Once we got the dry work done we went to the LFS after church on Sunday and bought 13.5 lbs of curred live rock labled 'Dragon'. I haven't seen that name before but the Fish Guy said it was aquacultured and when i looked at it the rock was coverd in live 'stuff'. I've included some shots of said 'stuff'.

We set up the tank about 3 pm. The Fish Guy said because the rock was already curred we could put a small clean up crew right in so I have what I believe are five astra snails, two redleg hermits, one queen conch, and a tiny emerald crab. Everyone but one small astra snail are in teh DT.

My drain is making a LOT of noise so I'm toying with driling the bend and siliconing a section of the one inch vinyl tube to it but I'm looking for you alls opinion there.

I got a lot of foam after I added the sand and rock but that went away. By this mornign eveyrthing was really clear. The gravity is at about 1.0215, Amonia was a 0 with Nitrites <3. Haven't found my nitrate test kit yet. Temp is right around 72 but I don't really trust the digital thermometer I have. Here are some photo's. I'll think of more later and post it.

Heres the new hole
[IMG] http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/...-tank-hole.jpg[/IMG]

Tank back paitned with krylon

Flow test with samll towel on bulkhead to deal with the tiny leak

I fixed my flow problem by removing about a foot of 1/2 tubing (from teh previous picture). Here's some surface agitation..

My 1/8 inch acrylic calfo for the upper left corner.
[IMG] http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/...ylic-Calfo.jpg[/IMG]

The painted calfo (same Krylon)

Moon light installed
[IMG] http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/...-installed.jpg[/IMG]

Refugium in action during flow test
[IMG] http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/...-in-action.jpg[/IMG]

first-chevalier · 02/12/2007, 09:59 PM

Calfo installed from the left side

And the top

Tank on teh stand without the calfo installed
[IMG] http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/...d-no-calfo.jpg[/IMG]

Tank on teh stand with teh hood and with teh calfo installed and drying

The tank waits patiently for live rock in the morning

JUST finished putting rock in teh tank

One hour after adding the sand adn rock
[IMG] http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/...after-tank.jpg[/IMG]

The fuge one hour after

The foam.....
[IMG] http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/...d-rock-add.jpg[/IMG]

Couple hours after adding everything.

Calfo in action. I ultimately had to snap off all the teeth becuase it just couldn't keep up with teh pump.

01/19/2007, 05:53 PM	#1
first-chevalier Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Kennesaw, GA Posts: 166	Piper's Travis Tank Okay, the tank stand construction is underway. I'm not really sure what I'm doing as far as the posting part goes, but I'll learn along the way, I hope. Here is (again, I hope) a picture of all the hardware currently purchased for the project surrounding the new Hitachi ten inch contractor table saw I was able to finagle for the project (it will also be used to build a leaf for our kitchen table and finish out the bathroom remodeling jobs). My daughter, who's tank this will be, is the one standing in the shot. [IMG] http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/...19IMG_0468.jpg[/IMG] I wasn't able to find the lights Travis suggested from lights of america, but these GE lights have the same color rating and a little more wattage so I think I'm okay (Travis?). [IMG] http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/...19IMG_0466.jpg[/IMG] I'll post more as the project continues. Any feedback is appreciated and welcome. Thanks. __________________ But how can it be a closed system if there's a big opening in the back of my hood...... Current Tank Info: 10g nano 5g fuge started 2/11/07; 29g prop tank

01/21/2007, 01:58 PM	#2
first-chevalier Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Kennesaw, GA Posts: 166	Stand under construction Worked on the stand this weekend as I don't have my acrylic solvent yet to make the overflow. should get that this week though. Here is teh stand underconstruction. I've got some red-oak veneer plywood I'll be skinning this thing with stained with tongue oil. Trying to find matching 90 degree trim in oak now. Stand legs [IMG] http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/...d-legs-JPG.jpg[/IMG] Halfway assembled The completed stand without any finishing work [IMG] http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/...and-II-JPG.jpg[/IMG] Found the lights at Lowes but didn't use LoA's. They had a GE brand that specifically lists the color at 6500k. Thought I'd give those a shot, but still ahve the receipt. I'm gonna throw up a post in the lighting forum to see what people think. __________________ But how can it be a closed system if there's a big opening in the back of my hood...... Current Tank Info: 10g nano 5g fuge started 2/11/07; 29g prop tank

01/21/2007, 03:56 PM	#4
first-chevalier Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Kennesaw, GA Posts: 166	Our stand is 36 inches. On the stability question there shouldn't be an issue. There are two screws in every joint (everywhere board meets board) and they're 2 1/2 inches long. I've played with it a bit and there just isn't anywhere for it to go. Plus the panneling is just 1/4 inch redoak. shouldn't be any trouble attaching it and keeping it there. What's an AP 24 (I'm new, can you tell)? __________________ But how can it be a closed system if there's a big opening in the back of my hood...... Current Tank Info: 10g nano 5g fuge started 2/11/07; 29g prop tank

01/23/2007, 10:45 PM	#5
first-chevalier Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Kennesaw, GA Posts: 166	Stand stability In case anyone wonders/cares, here is how sturdy this stand is. Keep in mind it's designed to hold a 10g tank. Full with live rock and water that can't be more than 100 lbs. I weigh over 220....... [IMG] http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/...Stand-Load.jpg[/IMG] __________________ But how can it be a closed system if there's a big opening in the back of my hood...... Current Tank Info: 10g nano 5g fuge started 2/11/07; 29g prop tank

01/27/2007, 06:54 PM	#7
first-chevalier Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Kennesaw, GA Posts: 166	Update I haven't been able to work much on the stand recently because the whole house has been foucsed on my daughter's fifth birthday, which happened today and is now over, hurray. I was able to jump in and get the hood built, the 12 inch hinge installed, and route the stand for the 32 inch hinge. I'll try to skin the stand tomorrow and trim it as well as add the lights to the hood. If I get to work longer I'll add the shelves and be done except for staining. Side of hood [IMG] http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/4531/144719Lid.jpg[/IMG] Back of hood [IMG] http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/4531/144719Lid.jpg[/IMG] Stand hinge 12 hood hinge http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/...9Top-hinge.jpg Piper and Gavin with the stand http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/...vin-w-tank.jpg Stand with the tank and the hinges __________________ But how can it be a closed system if there's a big opening in the back of my hood...... Current Tank Info: 10g nano 5g fuge started 2/11/07; 29g prop tank

01/21/2007, 02:01 PM	#3
ALittleSalty Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Lafayette, IN Posts: 119	Looks good, you might want to put a support brace on the side supports to keep the wood from bowing out and collapsing. Plus it will allow you to nail the outer skin on in the middle as well as at the top and bottom. Jon I am getting ready start building a stand myself for my AP 24. How tall is your stand??

01/23/2007, 11:22 PM	#6
ALittleSalty Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Lafayette, IN Posts: 119	Looks like you had some fun surfing on your stand!!! LOL An AP 24 is short for the Aquapod 24 tank by current usa. My stand will be roughly 25 w x 25 l x 45 h Jon

01/27/2007, 06:57 PM	#8
drummereef Team RC Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: STL Posts: 14,754	Lookin good, first-chevalier! Will be cool to see it all filled up. __________________ -Brett 180g Marineland Starfire In-Wall 278 gallon system

01/27/2007, 09:48 PM	#9
first-chevalier Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Kennesaw, GA Posts: 166	Thanks. Given this is my first attempt at salt I'm debating LFS caribean LR or clubbing up for the good stuff and ordering from Tampabay saltwater. I'm worried I kill everything then my money is down the drain, literaly. I'm hopping to have rock in it on or around the first of Feb. __________________ But how can it be a closed system if there's a big opening in the back of my hood...... Current Tank Info: 10g nano 5g fuge started 2/11/07; 29g prop tank

01/28/2007, 07:13 PM	#10
first-chevalier Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Kennesaw, GA Posts: 166	Tank Update Finaly the birthday party is over and I was able to get back to the tank construction. The short version is I'm almost done. I have one panel of redoak to put on the hood, then trim it, and stain the whole thing. Lastly I still need to drill the back and build the overflow. I'll take care of that this week. Shot of the front panel in redoak Shot of the lights on Shot of the lights off and my DIY reflector Back of the hood with the lights on [IMG] http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/...ights-back.jpg[/IMG] Side shot with the lights on Back with the lights on The main area with the door open [IMG] http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/...Open-Front.jpg[/IMG] Just the tank with the lights on (that's a tempurature guage in there) [IMG] http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/...19Tank-top.jpg[/IMG] Temperature with teh lights on after about 1/2 an hour. The area where the tank is was 67 degrees when this was taken [IMG] http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/...9Tank-Temp.jpg[/IMG] Finally the whole thing. The flash washes out the hood lights being on but it kind of makes the tank glow. I hope to begin putting sand, rock, and water in by Thursday. __________________ But how can it be a closed system if there's a big opening in the back of my hood...... Current Tank Info: 10g nano 5g fuge started 2/11/07; 29g prop tank

01/30/2007, 08:22 PM	#11
first-chevalier Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Kennesaw, GA Posts: 166	Tank update, not good I've had a set-back. I was drilling my tank (through the back) and, well the picture speaks volumes... [IMG] http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/...ttered-10g.jpg[/IMG] Gotta get a new tank. Perhaps I'll find someone local who drills glass for me. __________________ But how can it be a closed system if there's a big opening in the back of my hood...... Current Tank Info: 10g nano 5g fuge started 2/11/07; 29g prop tank

01/31/2007, 10:23 AM	#12
Rudy00 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Ottawa ON Posts: 66	how were you drilling it?

01/31/2007, 08:52 PM	#13
first-chevalier Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Kennesaw, GA Posts: 166	Dremel with a diamond bit, water washing over the work area, absolutely NO pressure at all. I went to the LFS and was told all tanks are now made with tempered glass. However, I got a perfecto tank and am debating trying it anyway. I'm also debating making a tank from 1/4 inch acrylic. We'll see. __________________ But how can it be a closed system if there's a big opening in the back of my hood...... Current Tank Info: 10g nano 5g fuge started 2/11/07; 29g prop tank

02/01/2007, 08:54 PM	#14
first-chevalier Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Kennesaw, GA Posts: 166	Houston we have a hole! Thanks to the strength from our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ I am able to report you CAN successfully drill a Perfecto Manufacturing 10g tank IF it does not have the orange sticker on it. I was praying the entire time and when the bit dropped through to the other side on the pilot hole I nearly crapped myself and dropped the dremel. It's not the neatest job cutting and hopefully it will seal but it's a hole and the bulkhead goes through it. I filled it and emptied it about five times testing the leaks. Leaked every time. I didn't do a very clean job cutting the gaskets apart so I'm gonna get another one and try to do a better job. That will also give me a spacer for the outside to hopefully help with the seal. Anyway, it's on to the acrylic work for the clafo, painting, and then installing all the acrylic in both the overflow and the sump. Hurray, progress. __________________ But how can it be a closed system if there's a big opening in the back of my hood...... Current Tank Info: 10g nano 5g fuge started 2/11/07; 29g prop tank

02/01/2007, 09:03 PM	#15
zma21 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: NOLA Posts: 1,453	Good luck! __________________ SCA 50 Starfire: In Progress Current Tank Info: 20 High -> 40 Cube -> Nanocube 12 DX -> 25 Gallon Rimless -> 10 Gallon AGA Temporary Tank -> JBJ 24 LED -> SCA Starfire 50 Cube

02/07/2007, 08:21 AM	#16
first-chevalier Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Kennesaw, GA Posts: 166	Update: I did the flow test last night and discovered my mag model 3 pump at 350gph just isn't going to have the juice to get good flow in my tank. I've got to work wtih that and see how I can improve tank flow. I'd like to avoid buying a new pump, but I don't think I have an option due to finances. My only other option is to move the fuge up and shorten the 1/2 inch feed line from the pump to the display tank. However, I have a new discovery. My hood is too tight. I know this because as I was putting my light hood back on the tank cracked. On the up side I now know that all the pains on this particular 10g tank from perfecto were in fact aneeled glass and could have been drilled. I was also able to fix the leeking bulkhead but now have a second chance to drill a better hole. I plan on picking up a new tank and 1 1/4 inch diamond hole saw today. __________________ But how can it be a closed system if there's a big opening in the back of my hood...... Current Tank Info: 10g nano 5g fuge started 2/11/07; 29g prop tank

02/08/2007, 08:40 PM	#17
first-chevalier Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Kennesaw, GA Posts: 166	Siliconing the Fuge and Flow Test Okay, I officialy suck at silicon. I've installed the acrylic walls to my 5.5g fuge for the tank but I make no warranties or guarantees for my silicon job, lol. Here are some shots of my first attempt ever at running silicon on glass/acrylic. I have a long way to go. Flow test setup shots to follow. this first shot is the corner where the overflow is going to enter the tank. This next is a shot long ways in the fuge. The background piece is wehre teh overflow will enter, then some sand and rock, then teh bubble trap. [IMG] http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/...licon-Fuge.jpg[/IMG] Top down shot of same Fuge setup for the flow test The whole setup for the flow test, and yes I know I have a lot of extra pipe on teh 1/2 inch return. this was just to test teh design. water moved so successfull. Not a lot moved, just movement. __________________ But how can it be a closed system if there's a big opening in the back of my hood...... Current Tank Info: 10g nano 5g fuge started 2/11/07; 29g prop tank

02/08/2007, 10:20 PM	#18
james deluca Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: u.s. nv. Posts: 59	what kind of lighting are you uesing and will they work??

02/09/2007, 09:26 AM	#19
first-chevalier Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Kennesaw, GA Posts: 166	Not sure I understand the 'will they work' question, but I plan to just use a simple clip on office light, or install a couple corss members to create a second shelf and screw the lighting into the underside of that. __________________ But how can it be a closed system if there's a big opening in the back of my hood...... Current Tank Info: 10g nano 5g fuge started 2/11/07; 29g prop tank

02/09/2007, 10:03 AM	#21
jbittner Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Humboldt, NE Posts: 1,014	that is a heck of alot of work for a 10 gal tank! Looking good though.

02/09/2007, 11:37 AM	#22
first-chevalier Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Kennesaw, GA Posts: 166	It's fun. I could have cobbled some stuff together and thrown it on a cheap ole stand but that just looks cluttered. Travis had a shot of his stand next to the Wally World metal stand and it's night and day. Plus I needed an excuse to buy a 10 inch contractors table saw.... __________________ But how can it be a closed system if there's a big opening in the back of my hood...... Current Tank Info: 10g nano 5g fuge started 2/11/07; 29g prop tank

02/09/2007, 02:38 PM	#23
james deluca Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: u.s. nv. Posts: 59	sorry was asking about the main tank lights and was wondering what you would keep in the tank?

02/12/2007, 09:55 PM	#24
first-chevalier Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Kennesaw, GA Posts: 166	Update The short update is WE HAVE A TANK! The longer one is to follow and I have more pictures in the gallery than posted here. K, we drilled the new tank, painted the back, re-ran the flow test. Still had a small leak in the gaskets so I fixed that by siliconing the bulkhead and strapping the drain tube to the stand so it can't torque the bulkhead. Then I acrylic cemented the calfo together, painted and installed it. Once we got the dry work done we went to the LFS after church on Sunday and bought 13.5 lbs of curred live rock labled 'Dragon'. I haven't seen that name before but the Fish Guy said it was aquacultured and when i looked at it the rock was coverd in live 'stuff'. I've included some shots of said 'stuff'. We set up the tank about 3 pm. The Fish Guy said because the rock was already curred we could put a small clean up crew right in so I have what I believe are five astra snails, two redleg hermits, one queen conch, and a tiny emerald crab. Everyone but one small astra snail are in teh DT. My drain is making a LOT of noise so I'm toying with driling the bend and siliconing a section of the one inch vinyl tube to it but I'm looking for you alls opinion there. I got a lot of foam after I added the sand and rock but that went away. By this mornign eveyrthing was really clear. The gravity is at about 1.0215, Amonia was a 0 with Nitrites <3. Haven't found my nitrate test kit yet. Temp is right around 72 but I don't really trust the digital thermometer I have. Here are some photo's. I'll think of more later and post it. Heres the new hole [IMG] http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/...-tank-hole.jpg[/IMG] Tank back paitned with krylon Flow test with samll towel on bulkhead to deal with the tiny leak I fixed my flow problem by removing about a foot of 1/2 tubing (from teh previous picture). Here's some surface agitation.. My 1/8 inch acrylic calfo for the upper left corner. [IMG] http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/...ylic-Calfo.jpg[/IMG] The painted calfo (same Krylon) Moon light installed [IMG] http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/...-installed.jpg[/IMG] Refugium in action during flow test [IMG] http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/...-in-action.jpg[/IMG] __________________ But how can it be a closed system if there's a big opening in the back of my hood...... Current Tank Info: 10g nano 5g fuge started 2/11/07; 29g prop tank

02/12/2007, 09:59 PM	#25
first-chevalier Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Kennesaw, GA Posts: 166	Update Part duex Calfo installed from the left side And the top Tank on teh stand without the calfo installed [IMG] http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/...d-no-calfo.jpg[/IMG] Tank on teh stand with teh hood and with teh calfo installed and drying The tank waits patiently for live rock in the morning JUST finished putting rock in teh tank One hour after adding the sand adn rock [IMG] http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/...after-tank.jpg[/IMG] The fuge one hour after The foam..... [IMG] http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/...d-rock-add.jpg[/IMG] Couple hours after adding everything. Calfo in action. I ultimately had to snap off all the teeth becuase it just couldn't keep up with teh pump. __________________ But how can it be a closed system if there's a big opening in the back of my hood...... Current Tank Info: 10g nano 5g fuge started 2/11/07; 29g prop tank