Reef Central Online Community

Go Back   Reef Central Online Community > General Interest Forums > Reef Discussion
Blogs FAQ Calendar

Notices

User Tag List

Reply
Thread Tools
Unread 02/23/2007, 05:10 PM   #1
zmazza
Premium Member
 
zmazza's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: East Tennessee
Posts: 638
Need Coral Recommendation Please

Hey guys,

I've got a 29 gallon reef tank... an MJ 1200 powerhead and a MJ1000 power head for flow. I also have a CSS 65 skimmer and about 80 lbs of live rock.

I just read about how toxic zoanthids could be, so I'm wanting to replace them with a "nicer" and "less toxic" coral. I have a newborn on the way and I would hate to cause any pain or sickness due to toxin on my skin from working on my reef tank.

I use tap water, but the zoanthids have been growing and propagating. I think the tap water is full of calcium.

I currently have an AH Supply 1x55 watt bright kit about 6" off the water. It's a 50/50 10k actintic bulb.

I'm looking for a good, somewhat colorful coral that's easy to keep and grow. Do any of you have any good recommendations?

Thanks.


__________________
29G FO
30G Reef

Stand and Canopy Design by kelley_mc®!

REEF - n. A peculiar glass box which is also a vacuum for time and money. "That reef just stole my wallet!"

Current Tank Info: 30 Gallon Reef - Gold Stripe Maroon Clown Pair
zmazza is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 02/23/2007, 05:24 PM   #2
lvreefer
Registered Member
 
lvreefer's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Sin City
Posts: 1,163
Xenia, but some people consider this to hardy of a coral. It can spread and take over a tank, but it will work. Shrooms are also a good choice. Are you sure you have the zoa's that are "toxic"?


lvreefer is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 02/23/2007, 05:40 PM   #3
zmazza
Premium Member
 
zmazza's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: East Tennessee
Posts: 638
I doubt it, but just to be on the safe side, I'm going to say so. How do you know the difference? I've gotten these out and handled them. They've definitely "goo'd" up. No significant harm. The first time I think it was a placebo effect, lol. I've got two different kinds... a button polyp type with a long stem, and the others are much shorter. I think I've got dragon eyes and some radioactive something or another.


__________________
29G FO
30G Reef

Stand and Canopy Design by kelley_mc®!

REEF - n. A peculiar glass box which is also a vacuum for time and money. "That reef just stole my wallet!"

Current Tank Info: 30 Gallon Reef - Gold Stripe Maroon Clown Pair
zmazza is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 02/23/2007, 05:40 PM   #4
zmazza
Premium Member
 
zmazza's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: East Tennessee
Posts: 638
Sorry for double post...

So xenias ... like the pumping xenia? I love those.

I may have to pick up some xenia and some mushrooms. You said those would work with that amount of light?


__________________
29G FO
30G Reef

Stand and Canopy Design by kelley_mc®!

REEF - n. A peculiar glass box which is also a vacuum for time and money. "That reef just stole my wallet!"

Current Tank Info: 30 Gallon Reef - Gold Stripe Maroon Clown Pair
zmazza is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 02/23/2007, 05:56 PM   #5
Matt Rise
Registered Member
 
Matt Rise's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 453
80lbs of live rock in a 29? Wow!


Matt Rise is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 02/23/2007, 05:58 PM   #6
zmazza
Premium Member
 
zmazza's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: East Tennessee
Posts: 638
It's packed! I wouldn't have it any other way though. It's an enormous amount of rock. I'd add more if I could. I'd like to get a scale to accurately weigh all of it. Maybe one day.


__________________
29G FO
30G Reef

Stand and Canopy Design by kelley_mc®!

REEF - n. A peculiar glass box which is also a vacuum for time and money. "That reef just stole my wallet!"

Current Tank Info: 30 Gallon Reef - Gold Stripe Maroon Clown Pair
zmazza is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 02/23/2007, 05:58 PM   #7
zmazza
Premium Member
 
zmazza's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: East Tennessee
Posts: 638
Click on my red house to see my build thread. I just completed it. That's all the rock. It's spread out all over the tank though and not stacked.


__________________
29G FO
30G Reef

Stand and Canopy Design by kelley_mc®!

REEF - n. A peculiar glass box which is also a vacuum for time and money. "That reef just stole my wallet!"

Current Tank Info: 30 Gallon Reef - Gold Stripe Maroon Clown Pair
zmazza is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 02/23/2007, 06:29 PM   #8
Salamander
Registered Member
 
Salamander's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Flagstaff, Arizona
Posts: 2,103
Not a whole lot you can do with 55w. Shrooms for sure, xenia may be ok. I wouldn't wory too much about the zoas. It pretty overrated as to how toxic they are. Just wash your hands if you mess with them (like you should anyways) and don't eat them.


__________________
I feel more like myself now than I did before.

Current Tank Info: 120g mixed reef, 2 x 250W DE MH, 2 x 54w T5, MSX 200 SKimmer, 2 Koralia 4's, 40g fuge/sump, QT
Salamander is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 02/24/2007, 06:54 AM   #9
zmazza
Premium Member
 
zmazza's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: East Tennessee
Posts: 638
I'm thinking about getting another 55 watt kit, or if I can find something decent, a t5 retrofit kit.

Zoanthids are really low light corals, right? So they should work perfectly fine in my setup?

If so, I think I may get some more of them and some mushrooms. The zoanthids are my favorites after all.

Are there certain kinds that are more dangerous than others? And how do you tell a difference?


__________________
29G FO
30G Reef

Stand and Canopy Design by kelley_mc®!

REEF - n. A peculiar glass box which is also a vacuum for time and money. "That reef just stole my wallet!"

Current Tank Info: 30 Gallon Reef - Gold Stripe Maroon Clown Pair
zmazza is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 02/24/2007, 07:48 AM   #10
reefworm
Registered Member
 
reefworm's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Waxhaw, NC USA
Posts: 2,139
I had great success in my 29 with euphylia anchora [hammer or anchor coral] under 55w pc's. It was a real center piece in the tank - growing with a vibrant lime green color. I definitely plan on another one.

As mentioned, shrooms are good, as are the xenia and green star polyps, although they can take over if you don't stay on them. Actually, what I did was to allow them to grow over onto separate pieces of rock, and then traded them at the LFS for stuff, or traded frags.

However, I'm concerned, too, about that much rock in a 29. I kind of overdid it myself, building a wall that extended up the entire back of the tank. Looked great, but circulation became an issue, even with multiple ph's and a wavemaker. I was asking for red slime, and got it. Got it under control fairly quickly, but I feel like I dodged a bullet. Just keep an eye on things, especially in areas the current doesn't reach or doesn't flow strongly.

Keep us posted, and good luck!


__________________
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." - Thomas Jefferson

Current Tank Info: 29 gal. reef/assist with 75 gal. at the school
reefworm is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 02/26/2007, 08:31 AM   #11
zmazza
Premium Member
 
zmazza's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: East Tennessee
Posts: 638
Seems to be the perfect amount. The only time I had problem with brown and hair algae was when I had 192 watts of 6700k bulbs on it.

Thanks for the coral recommendation. I'll have to check them out.


__________________
29G FO
30G Reef

Stand and Canopy Design by kelley_mc®!

REEF - n. A peculiar glass box which is also a vacuum for time and money. "That reef just stole my wallet!"

Current Tank Info: 30 Gallon Reef - Gold Stripe Maroon Clown Pair
zmazza is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 02/26/2007, 02:39 PM   #12
650-IS350
Registered Member
 
650-IS350's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Bay Area
Posts: 14,555
Palythoas are more toxic than zoanthus.... Just make sure if you are working in your tank to wash your hands.. but if you are fragging them make sure you have saftey glasses, gloves and not touch any sensing organs IE' eyes, mouth nose. etc....

READ THIS

http://www.reefs.org/library/aquariu...98/0198_1.html


__________________
*** RETIRED FROM REEFING ***

Just enjoying the box of water from afar
650-IS350 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 02/26/2007, 04:43 PM   #13
barjam
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Posts: 1,695
I have xenia in my display tank (75 gallon 216 T5 lighting) and in my QT tank it is growing quite a bit faster in the QT under 2 x 26 watt 6500k CF lights. No idea why.


barjam is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 02/27/2007, 08:17 AM   #14
zmazza
Premium Member
 
zmazza's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: East Tennessee
Posts: 638
Any specific kind of xenia, barjam?

delsol650 - Is there a way to tell the different species apart?


__________________
29G FO
30G Reef

Stand and Canopy Design by kelley_mc®!

REEF - n. A peculiar glass box which is also a vacuum for time and money. "That reef just stole my wallet!"

Current Tank Info: 30 Gallon Reef - Gold Stripe Maroon Clown Pair
zmazza is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 02/27/2007, 09:51 AM   #15
650-IS350
Registered Member
 
650-IS350's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Bay Area
Posts: 14,555
Go to ZoaId.com they have links there...

To me, most palys have a green slit for a mouth and are USUALLY quite larger than zoo's who average in size of larger the a pencil eraser... some of my paly's grow to larger than a quarter in diameter and DOES eat pellets, brine shrimp etc....
zoanthids get food photosythetically same as palys but palys you can feed more... I try to feed my zoo's phytoplankton though.


__________________
*** RETIRED FROM REEFING ***

Just enjoying the box of water from afar
650-IS350 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 02/27/2007, 09:57 AM   #16
zmazza
Premium Member
 
zmazza's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: East Tennessee
Posts: 638
I do have some bigger ones.... they have a "stalk" if you will. Not as big as a quarter I don't think. They are reddish pink in color. I can't see a mouth. I may try and get a picture of them.

I do have some smaller green ones that are the size of a pencil eraser, though.


__________________
29G FO
30G Reef

Stand and Canopy Design by kelley_mc®!

REEF - n. A peculiar glass box which is also a vacuum for time and money. "That reef just stole my wallet!"

Current Tank Info: 30 Gallon Reef - Gold Stripe Maroon Clown Pair
zmazza is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 12:02 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Powered by Searchlight © 2025 Axivo Inc.
Use of this web site is subject to the terms and conditions described in the user agreement.
Reef CentralTM Reef Central, LLC. Copyright ©1999-2022
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2025 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.