Opinions of Kick Ich?

[nikonosis]

Does it work?

[jen bee]

i soak my food in garlic juice and marine-c, along with keeping parameters stable , this is kick ich , personally , i wouldnt put it in my tank

[hunkadory]

I second the garlic trick. I use Koylic brand from GNC. Works like a champ!!

[SgJsg35]

I've heard it dosent kill anything, just hear say, I've never tryed it. I do use garlic extreame in my food and have never had an ich outbreak since I started useing it.

[nikonosis]

I am in the process of trying it right now. I figure it could be worth the try if it actually works. I have heard from several people that it does work and I have heard from people that have never used it, that it doesn't work. I wonder how the people that have never used it, knows that it doesn't work? Is there anyone here that has actually used it and can vouch for if it works or doesn't?

[Rays]

I second the garlic trick. I use Koylic brand from GNC. Works like a champ!!

That's what I used to use, it's expensive, but it worked.

[nikonosis]

Some of the food I feed is soaked in garlic. It didn't prevent anything...

[Rays]

I used to soak cocktail shrimp in it(garlic) sometimes the skimmer would overreact from the shrimp, but not the garlic.

[nikonosis]

There isn't a single person on RC that has tried kick ich?

[PUGroyale]

tried it... Useless IMHO

[SgJsg35]

You have, let us all know how it works. If your already useing it what difference does it make if worked or didnt for someone else.

[nikonosis]

Originally posted by SgJsg35
You have, let us all know how it works. If your already useing it what difference does it make if worked or didnt for someone else.

well because on the bottle it says to not run your skimmer. It doesn't say for how long but you are supposed to does this stuff for like a week and half. I don't feel comfortable leaving my skimmer of for that period of time. I am wondering what other people have experienced with it.

[nikonosis]

Originally posted by PUGroyale
tried it... Useless IMHO

Did you turn your skimmer off or did you leave it on?

[jmicky41]

I used it and it seemed to work. You have to follow the dosage schedule completely and for best results use the "heavy infestation" regimen. Also: your skimmer, UV, carbon, and if I remember correctly phosphate remover should be removed also. Storage of the product is also important, if it gets frozen or is kept in sunlight (read the LFS stores it near the front window) it will deactivate. When I say "seemed" to work, the Ich spots disappeared and never reappeared - knock on wood.

[nikonosis]

So should I leave the skimmer off for the entire dosing period?

[tnn1567]

I used kickick and it didn't work. I had my skimmer off the entired time.

Best way to treat ick is to do the hypo treatment.

[nikonosis]

Originally posted by tnn1567
I used kickick and it didn't work. I had my skimmer off the entired time.

Best way to treat ick is to do the hypo treatment.

You know, I have read so many times that hypo doesn't work, that copper doesn't work, that garlic doesn't work. I have read about people quarantining fish for 6-8 weeks, they put them in their tank and they still got ich. I have read about people getting ich, taking all their fish out, treating them for 2 months, putting them back in and 2 days later they got ich again. It really seems like there is nothing that beats it and no one actually knows anything about it.

BTW, I had fish in my tank for around a month now with no ich. I bought a powder blue at the local fish store that had been in copper for 3 weeks with no signs of ich. I brought the fish home and he eats like a pig and he has been in the tank for a week. 2 days ago we noticed ich on him and some on our foxface. I have treated the tank for kick ich for 1 day now and there is no ich on the foxface and only a few spots on the powder blue. I did not do a quaratine on the powder blue because he had been quarantined in the LFS for 3 weeks in copper. I have been soaking all the food in garlic and I have been heavily feeding to keep all the fish strong and they are all still eating very good. Anyone have any other ideas that they know will work 100% no matter what?

[jen bee]

i keep my parameters spot on, soak food in garlic juice and marine-c, ive never qt anything and ive never seen ich for over 2 years when i had it the first few fish i dropped in.........you decide what works for you




ooops, forgot to mention i use ozone

[josbur63]

The best way to prevent ich is to never put a tang in your tank.From the time I started my tank a year ago,I have never had ich,perfectly healthy fish.In the first week I introduced a hepatus tang in my 75,all hell broke loose.I lost my beautiful flame angel,a yellow tail damsel,a royal gramma,and the hepatus tang.The only reason I believe I did not lose my maroon clown,is because he never leaves his anemone.I fed garlic soaked food,freshwater dips,raised the tank temps,everything imaginable.My cleaner shrimp constantly cleaned the tang,but to no avail.I considered using one of the ich formulas,but did not want to risk the loss of over a $1000 worth of corals.I will never have another tang in my tank if there is no medicinal cure that works.Good luck,and I hope yours ends better than mine.

[nikonosis]

ive heard ozone doesn't kill ich, only UV does when it comes to running something like that.

[nikonosis]

Originally posted by josbur63
The best way to prevent ich is to never put a tang in your tank.From the time I started my tank a year ago,I have never had ich,perfectly healthy fish.In the first week I introduced a hepatus tang in my 75,all hell broke loose.I lost my beautiful flame angel,a yellow tail damsel,a royal gramma,and the hepatus tang.The only reason I believe I did not lose my maroon clown,is because he never leaves his anemone.I fed garlic soaked food,freshwater dips,raised the tank temps,everything imaginable.My cleaner shrimp constantly cleaned the tang,but to no avail.I considered using one of the ich formulas,but did not want to risk the loss of over a $1000 worth of corals.I will never have another tang in my tank if there is no medicinal cure that works.Good luck,and I hope yours ends better than mine.

Well we have about 10 sps, alot of zoanthids, frogspawn, torch, maxima clam, and lots of inverts. Nothing seems to be suffering from the kick ich.

[greenbean36191]

You know, I have read so many times that hypo doesn't work, that copper doesn't work, that garlic doesn't work. I have read about people quarantining fish for 6-8 weeks, they put them in their tank and they still got ich. I have read about people getting ich, taking all their fish out, treating them for 2 months, putting them back in and 2 days later they got ich again. It really seems like there is nothing that beats it and no one actually knows anything about it.

We know plenty about ich. It's probably one of the most studied marine parasites. Unfortunately, most hobbyists are oblivious to the work that's already been done. Almost all of the treatments available in the hobby have already been tested scientifically. Hypo DOES work for all but a few strains and copper works for all of them. Other than tank transfer they're the only methods shown to work significantly better than no treatment. Of course they only work if you do them correctly. If you don't keep the treatments at theraputic levels for long enough then no they don't work.

Imidazoles, which are the active ingredient in kick ich are treatments for anaerobic protists and bacteria. The only study that suggested that they have any effect on Cryptocaryon was done before people realized that fish often recover from ich even without any treatment. That's why people who haven't tried it say it doesn't do anything. It's kind of like people taking antibiotics for a stomach virus and saying the medicine cured them.

ive heard ozone doesn't kill ich, only UV does when it comes to running something like that.

UV will kill the parasite if it passes through. The trouble is you can never get all of the parasites on a recirculating system.

[Richard parry]

An old girlfriend of mine tried kickich. Shame she didnt do so BEFORE i met her, but thats another sore story!

[dragonforce]

^lmao

[Richard parry]

I told her i thought something smelled fishy