idea constructive criticism

dj.munk · 03/26/2007, 09:19 PM

http://www.thereeftank.com/photopost...cat=500&page=1

this is the link. please tell me what you think.

t5Nitro · 03/26/2007, 09:23 PM

You could get by with the 2 tangs in a 55 gallon tank for a while if you get them more on the small-medium sized type. In the end the blue tang will definately outgrow a 55, if you get them more small, you might be able to hold them for 1-2 years but people won't recommend it.

dj.munk · 03/26/2007, 09:24 PM

thank's. what about the light systems? will that work?

sir_dudeguy · 03/26/2007, 09:27 PM

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Good drawing lol

better than i can do for sure.

Anyways, 1 tang in a 55 is too much, let alone 2 of them (one that is able to get to a foot long too). The yellow tang is very debatable since lots of people try them and have luck w/them in 55's for a while...but in general the majority say no smaller than 75.

For that blue tang...i wouldnt put that in any less than a 90, but when it gets bigger i'd put it in a 125 at least.

I suggest you read some stuff on what tanks need and whatnot. I'm not sure how much you know or anything, so i'll just give you a link rather than giving you a whole list of stuff lol. This is a very good thread started a while ago...
Read everything...not so much on how he builds the stuff, but on all the filtration and whatnot...
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...hreadid=912378

sir_dudeguy · 03/26/2007, 09:30 PM

oh, and i'm not sure if each of those dots represents a fish (like in the group of chromis and damsels and stuff) but i'll assume that they do..in which case you've got like 12 fish in there. Thats quite a bit for only a 55. I've got only 5 in my 40 breeder and its pretty maxed out (not so much with the bioload....i've got plenty of rock for that, but space wise, there's just not enough room for much more than what i got...In yours it would be way too crazy, specially if you were to get those tangs...those 2 would probably put you over the max bioload with the other fish combined...i suggest at least getting rid of those 2 guys...)

AquaReeferMan · 03/26/2007, 10:19 PM

Yeah that stock list of fish is a little heavy. Im sure I wont be the last to say this but you shouldnt have 2 tangs in there. I wouldnt even keep one unless you plan to upgrade down the line. I kept a Hippo Tang in a 55g for almost 2 years. I go it when it was the size of a nickel. Now its in my 125g. If all those spots are fish that is way to many. I only kept 5 in my 55g. I wouldnt even put damsels in there. They get very aggressive. As for you lighting I would go with t-5s or MH.

petoonia · 03/26/2007, 10:56 PM

Out of the list of fish you have here's what I would add. The clownfish (personally I would get a pair), the yellow tang (a very small one), and the yellow watchman goby. I would also suggest a blenny.

Here's why.....

The hippo tang will add way to much to your bio load (especially with another tang in the tank). They are also very active fish and a G is kind of small to keep them happy.

5 chromis will add too much to your bioload as well chromis also tend to kill each other off until only is left especially in a smaller tank.

The damsels will get to be aggressive little buggers that will pick on the fish that cost a whole lot more than they do. They will also add a lot to your bio load.

If your looking to keep some corals you want low nitrates in your tank if you add to many fish you wont be able to maintain a low level of nitrates.

Trust me you will eventually upgrade to a bigger tank. (We all do) then you can plan that tank to be better suited for the fish you would like to have.

Good luck with your new set up!!!!!

alexb518 · 03/27/2007, 12:48 AM

the only fish in that setup i'd go with is the watchman goby, clown and maybe 3-4 max on the chromis. damsels are too aggressive, so i'd skip on that. as for having less rock and more swimming room for the tangs, well that is backwards thinking. the [main] reason you can't keep tangs in a small tank is b/c you wont be able to handle the bioload, and having less rock will only make that even more true. maybe look at a six line wrasse--cool fish and they really clean up.

03/26/2007, 09:19 PM	#1
dj.munk Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: tennessee Posts: 2	idea constructive criticism http://www.thereeftank.com/photopost...cat=500&page=1 this is the link. please tell me what you think.

03/26/2007, 09:23 PM	#2
t5Nitro Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 4,384	You could get by with the 2 tangs in a 55 gallon tank for a while if you get them more on the small-medium sized type. In the end the blue tang will definately outgrow a 55, if you get them more small, you might be able to hold them for 1-2 years but people won't recommend it. __________________ ATI T5 club Current Tank Info: Left the hobby, looking to re-enter in the future

03/26/2007, 09:27 PM	#4
sir_dudeguy Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 10,841	*To Reef Central* Good drawing lol better than i can do for sure. Anyways, 1 tang in a 55 is too much, let alone 2 of them (one that is able to get to a foot long too). The yellow tang is very debatable since lots of people try them and have luck w/them in 55's for a while...but in general the majority say no smaller than 75. For that blue tang...i wouldnt put that in any less than a 90, but when it gets bigger i'd put it in a 125 at least. I suggest you read some stuff on what tanks need and whatnot. I'm not sure how much you know or anything, so i'll just give you a link rather than giving you a whole list of stuff lol. This is a very good thread started a while ago... Read everything...not so much on how he builds the stuff, but on all the filtration and whatnot... http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...hreadid=912378 __________________ TAKE...LUCK!!!

03/26/2007, 09:30 PM	#5
sir_dudeguy Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 10,841	oh, and i'm not sure if each of those dots represents a fish (like in the group of chromis and damsels and stuff) but i'll assume that they do..in which case you've got like 12 fish in there. Thats quite a bit for only a 55. I've got only 5 in my 40 breeder and its pretty maxed out (not so much with the bioload....i've got plenty of rock for that, but space wise, there's just not enough room for much more than what i got...In yours it would be way too crazy, specially if you were to get those tangs...those 2 would probably put you over the max bioload with the other fish combined...i suggest at least getting rid of those 2 guys...) __________________ TAKE...LUCK!!!

03/26/2007, 10:19 PM	#6
AquaReeferMan Got Reef? Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Under the Sea, Pa Posts: 4,593	Yeah that stock list of fish is a little heavy. Im sure I wont be the last to say this but you shouldnt have 2 tangs in there. I wouldnt even keep one unless you plan to upgrade down the line. I kept a Hippo Tang in a 55g for almost 2 years. I go it when it was the size of a nickel. Now its in my 125g. If all those spots are fish that is way to many. I only kept 5 in my 55g. I wouldnt even put damsels in there. They get very aggressive. As for you lighting I would go with t-5s or MH. __________________ Couple SPS/Zoanthid tanks and a couple of FW planted tanks. Current Tank Info: 5 pieces of glass with some silicone and plastic frames holding them together

03/26/2007, 09:24 PM	#3
dj.munk Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: tennessee Posts: 2	thank's. what about the light systems? will that work?

03/26/2007, 10:56 PM	#7
petoonia HereWeGoAgain... Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,648	Out of the list of fish you have here's what I would add. The clownfish (personally I would get a pair), the yellow tang (a very small one), and the yellow watchman goby. I would also suggest a blenny. Here's why..... The hippo tang will add way to much to your bio load (especially with another tang in the tank). They are also very active fish and a G is kind of small to keep them happy. 5 chromis will add too much to your bioload as well chromis also tend to kill each other off until only is left especially in a smaller tank. The damsels will get to be aggressive little buggers that will pick on the fish that cost a whole lot more than they do. They will also add a lot to your bio load. If your looking to keep some corals you want low nitrates in your tank if you add to many fish you wont be able to maintain a low level of nitrates. Trust me you will eventually upgrade to a bigger tank. (We all do) then you can plan that tank to be better suited for the fish you would like to have. Good luck with your new set up!!!!! __________________ I've been in the hobby for about 10 years....(so I know a little bit)...(but not all that much).... Current Tank Info: 58G. Oceanic (Starphire). Mixed Reef

03/27/2007, 12:48 AM	#8
alexb518 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: San Mateo Posts: 514	the only fish in that setup i'd go with is the watchman goby, clown and maybe 3-4 max on the chromis. damsels are too aggressive, so i'd skip on that. as for having less rock and more swimming room for the tangs, well that is backwards thinking. the [main] reason you can't keep tangs in a small tank is b/c you wont be able to handle the bioload, and having less rock will only make that even more true. maybe look at a six line wrasse--cool fish and they really clean up.