Top three submersible return pumps?

jwccwj · 05/15/2007, 05:23 AM

Hi all,I was looking for opinions on the top three submersilbe return pumps for usage at approx 4ft head.The tank will be in my living room so it has to very quiet and reliable.Please omit mag drive.Is ehiem the only option here???

mg426 · 05/15/2007, 05:33 AM

Eheiem and Ocean runner

asnatlas · 05/15/2007, 05:35 AM

Red Dragon...

McCrary · 05/15/2007, 08:14 AM

Eheim makes a reliable, quiet and efficient pump which should take care of your needs.

jwccwj · 05/15/2007, 08:17 AM

I have two 1.5 " drains so will the ehiem be adequate seeing it only returns 900gph and im draing approx 2600gph??

McCrary · 05/15/2007, 08:23 AM

How big is the tank and sump?

eckrynock · 05/15/2007, 08:39 AM

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Originally posted by jwccwj
I have two 1.5 " drains so will the ehiem be adequate seeing it only returns 900gph and im draing approx 2600gph??

You will only drain as much water as your pumping up to your tank.

anthworks · 05/15/2007, 08:47 AM

I changed my large return pump (Sequence) on my 160gallon to a Eheim 1262. The smaller pump uses less electricity is quite and slow flow through the sump allows for better skimming. I have 3 Streams and a Maxi jet Mod in the tank for water movement. The Eheim is a great pump.

RichConley · 05/15/2007, 09:42 AM

Ocean Runner over eheim. Theyre MUCH MUCH more efficient, which means less heat, less energy.

mikedege · 05/15/2007, 10:05 AM

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Ocean Runner over eheim. Theyre MUCH MUCH more efficient, which means less heat, less energy.

I have both, and prefer the Eheim, it is quieter. Unless $$$ is an issue, then get the oceanrunner.

imo, Mike

RichConley · 05/15/2007, 10:06 AM

wierd. My oceanrunners are silent.

jwccwj · 05/15/2007, 10:38 AM

Thanks for the advice guys,so the fact that my overflows have the potential to drain 2600gph only means they will do this if the return pump is large enough,so with a ehiem pushing 900gph to the tank will the overflow box waterlevel be the same as the main tanks level or less?Will the large diameter bulk-heads quickly drain the water to the point were the pump is unable to return it fast enough giving me a lower water level in my overflow box?

rwrussom · 05/15/2007, 11:14 AM

I have an Ocean Runner 3500, very quiet. probably around 800 - 900 gph at 4' head into tank provides a very thin sheet flow at the 13" wide overflow.
Overflow water level needs to be high to quiet the water fall. Use a durso or stockman type standpipe to keep the level up and quiet.
Check out http://home.nc.rr.com/stockmanreef/ for a tight corner overflow box solution.
yes, without some solution like this the box will drop low and be noisy.

05/15/2007, 05:23 AM	#1
jwccwj Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Port Au Port,Newfoundland,Canada Posts: 405	Top three submersible return pumps? Hi all,I was looking for opinions on the top three submersilbe return pumps for usage at approx 4ft head.The tank will be in my living room so it has to very quiet and reliable.Please omit mag drive.Is ehiem the only option here???

05/15/2007, 05:33 AM	#2
mg426 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: maryland Posts: 6,923	Eheiem and Ocean runner __________________ I found a way to make a small fortune running a reef tank. Start with a large fortune. Unofficial President of the SEACLONE haters club Current Tank Info: 125 mixed reef 110 lbs LR, 1x250watt XM 20K MH 2x175watt XM 20K MH on Magetics 2X96 watt actinic PC, 220 watt VHO actinic, 30 gallon refugium, closed loop system powered by Sequence Dart MSX 200 skimmer 38 gallon sump, Oceansmotions squirt

05/15/2007, 05:35 AM	#3
asnatlas Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waukee, IA Posts: 4,198	Red Dragon... __________________ Shawn

05/15/2007, 08:14 AM	#4
McCrary Can't Stop Time Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 3,079	Eheim makes a reliable, quiet and efficient pump which should take care of your needs. __________________ Matt Patience is the best remedy for every trouble. Titus Maccius Plautus (254 BC - 184 BC), Rudens

05/15/2007, 08:23 AM	#6
McCrary Can't Stop Time Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 3,079	How big is the tank and sump? __________________ Matt Patience is the best remedy for every trouble. Titus Maccius Plautus (254 BC - 184 BC), Rudens

05/15/2007, 08:17 AM	#5
jwccwj Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Port Au Port,Newfoundland,Canada Posts: 405	I have two 1.5 " drains so will the ehiem be adequate seeing it only returns 900gph and im draing approx 2600gph??

05/15/2007, 08:47 AM	#8
anthworks Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,071	I changed my large return pump (Sequence) on my 160gallon to a Eheim 1262. The smaller pump uses less electricity is quite and slow flow through the sump allows for better skimming. I have 3 Streams and a Maxi jet Mod in the tank for water movement. The Eheim is a great pump.

05/15/2007, 09:42 AM	#9
RichConley Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Bostonian in Chicago going to DC Posts: 9,908	Ocean Runner over eheim. Theyre MUCH MUCH more efficient, which means less heat, less energy. __________________ NO TANKS!!!

05/15/2007, 10:06 AM	#11
RichConley Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Bostonian in Chicago going to DC Posts: 9,908	wierd. My oceanrunners are silent. __________________ NO TANKS!!!

05/15/2007, 10:38 AM	#12
jwccwj Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Port Au Port,Newfoundland,Canada Posts: 405	Thanks for the advice guys,so the fact that my overflows have the potential to drain 2600gph only means they will do this if the return pump is large enough,so with a ehiem pushing 900gph to the tank will the overflow box waterlevel be the same as the main tanks level or less?Will the large diameter bulk-heads quickly drain the water to the point were the pump is unable to return it fast enough giving me a lower water level in my overflow box?

05/15/2007, 11:14 AM	#13
rwrussom Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Arroyo Grande, CA Posts: 162	I have an Ocean Runner 3500, very quiet. probably around 800 - 900 gph at 4' head into tank provides a very thin sheet flow at the 13" wide overflow. Overflow water level needs to be high to quiet the water fall. Use a durso or stockman type standpipe to keep the level up and quiet. Check out http://home.nc.rr.com/stockmanreef/ for a tight corner overflow box solution. yes, without some solution like this the box will drop low and be noisy.