Help to clean my sand

jer77 · 07/17/2007, 06:15 PM

Is there any way to sterilize sand? I recently acquired over 300 lbs of "old school" southdown sand. I live in PA so it was available to our reef group a while back and a friend of mine bought a lot of it. The only problem is that he kept the bags outside. So when I got them for free some of the bags had tiny holes in them where water could have gotten in and formed some mold. The sand isn't very wet at all and theres no mold anywhere in the bags, but I just want to make sure it clean enough to put into my new tank. So what should I do?

oct2274 · 07/17/2007, 06:19 PM

southdown has to be rinsed many many times for it to run clear. It took me about 6 hours to rinse 5 bags. Just rinse small amounts at a time until the water is fairly clear and do over and over and over and over and over..........ya, you get the idea........DO NOT TRY TO PUT THE SAND IN WITHOUT CLEANING IT!

bertoni · 07/17/2007, 06:46 PM

I'd just add it to the tank, most likely. If you want a live sandbed, rinsing will remove many of the fine particles that the sandbed animals will need.

jer77 · 07/17/2007, 06:55 PM

I just got done reading that I should wash it to get some of the dust out. But its impossible to get all of it out so I'm sure there will be enough fine particles for the sand loving animals. Plus I read that it should be washed in saltwater after rinsing with freshwater. This ensures that some chemical process takes place outside of your tank that lowers your calcium and alkalinity.

But again about the mold, should I be worried?

oct2274 · 07/17/2007, 07:23 PM

you will regret it forever if you don't rinse southdown......it is so nasty. It makes nasty foam when you are rinsing it and has tons of powder, the reason why it took me 6 hours to rinse mine. south down is extremely very sound

Grins · 07/17/2007, 07:27 PM

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Originally posted by bertoni
I'd just add it to the tank, most likely. If you want a live sandbed, rinsing will remove many of the fine particles that the sandbed animals will need.

Are you saying not to rinse Southdown? That is the first time I've seen that advice if so.

bertoni · 07/17/2007, 08:55 PM

I doubt I'd rinse it at all. As I said, the process can lose fine sand grains. If the sand is contaminated with a lot of mold, I'd just pitch it. To me, it sounds clean enough, in my opinion, not having seen it.

Agu · 07/17/2007, 09:22 PM

If the sand has mold you don't want it put in your tank until it's cleaned.

Completely dry the sand. For that quantity I'd recommend a plastic tarp under the sand in the sun.

Once it's dry rinse small amounts in water until organics rise to the top. Pour off the scum. Dry again. Rinse again in RO/DI water, the pure water will attract pollutants and clean the sand. Dry it a third time and add it to your tank.

I've recycled some pretty filthy sand this way with great success.

snulma1 · 07/17/2007, 09:30 PM

I've used southdown in my tanks and never rinsed! You won't get a dust storm if you take your time with filling your tank. I placed a garbage bag inside the tank and poured the water slowly over that! and eventually the bag will float leaving clean water underneath!

I did that on my old 110 and on my current 20. But if you want to remove any unwanted organics, then yes, I would rinse!

jamiep · 07/18/2007, 05:19 AM

I would wash. If your really worried about mould, put the sand in a bucket of water and add some milton fluid (just a drop is all thats needed about a table spoon), let it sit for 30mins and then rinse it out till it runs extermly close to clear.

07/17/2007, 06:15 PM	#1
jer77 Phish Lover Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 2,642	Help to clean my sand Is there any way to sterilize sand? I recently acquired over 300 lbs of "old school" southdown sand. I live in PA so it was available to our reef group a while back and a friend of mine bought a lot of it. The only problem is that he kept the bags outside. So when I got them for free some of the bags had tiny holes in them where water could have gotten in and formed some mold. The sand isn't very wet at all and theres no mold anywhere in the bags, but I just want to make sure it clean enough to put into my new tank. So what should I do? __________________ - Jonny -, 120g 5 Year Old Reef w/ SPS, BTA, Zoos & some Softies. 40g Frag Tank. 40g Sump. Super Reef Octopus XP 3000 External Cone Skimmer. 250W Radiums. TaoTronics LED. PanWorld 200PS w/SQWD

07/17/2007, 06:46 PM	#3
bertoni RC Mod Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mountain View, CA, USA Posts: 88,616	I'd just add it to the tank, most likely. If you want a live sandbed, rinsing will remove many of the fine particles that the sandbed animals will need. __________________ Jonathan Bertoni

07/17/2007, 06:55 PM	#4
jer77 Phish Lover Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 2,642	I just got done reading that I should wash it to get some of the dust out. But its impossible to get all of it out so I'm sure there will be enough fine particles for the sand loving animals. Plus I read that it should be washed in saltwater after rinsing with freshwater. This ensures that some chemical process takes place outside of your tank that lowers your calcium and alkalinity. But again about the mold, should I be worried? __________________ - Jonny -, 120g 5 Year Old Reef w/ SPS, BTA, Zoos & some Softies. 40g Frag Tank. 40g Sump. Super Reef Octopus XP 3000 External Cone Skimmer. 250W Radiums. TaoTronics LED. PanWorld 200PS w/SQWD

07/17/2007, 08:55 PM	#7
bertoni RC Mod Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mountain View, CA, USA Posts: 88,616	I doubt I'd rinse it at all. As I said, the process can lose fine sand grains. If the sand is contaminated with a lot of mold, I'd just pitch it. To me, it sounds clean enough, in my opinion, not having seen it. __________________ Jonathan Bertoni

07/17/2007, 09:22 PM	#8
Agu Registered Member Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: Sarasota, Florida Posts: 30,279	If the sand has mold you don't want it put in your tank until it's cleaned. Completely dry the sand. For that quantity I'd recommend a plastic tarp under the sand in the sun. Once it's dry rinse small amounts in water until organics rise to the top. Pour off the scum. Dry again. Rinse again in RO/DI water, the pure water will attract pollutants and clean the sand. Dry it a third time and add it to your tank. I've recycled some pretty filthy sand this way with great success. __________________ Less technology , more biology . Current Tank Info: 30 gallon half cube and 5.5, both reef tanks

07/17/2007, 06:19 PM	#2
oct2274 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Plano, TX Posts: 2,347	southdown has to be rinsed many many times for it to run clear. It took me about 6 hours to rinse 5 bags. Just rinse small amounts at a time until the water is fairly clear and do over and over and over and over and over..........ya, you get the idea........DO NOT TRY TO PUT THE SAND IN WITHOUT CLEANING IT!

07/17/2007, 07:23 PM	#5
oct2274 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Plano, TX Posts: 2,347	you will regret it forever if you don't rinse southdown......it is so nasty. It makes nasty foam when you are rinsing it and has tons of powder, the reason why it took me 6 hours to rinse mine. south down is extremely very sound

07/17/2007, 09:30 PM	#9
snulma1 Registered Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: New York, NY Posts: 2,281	I've used southdown in my tanks and never rinsed! You won't get a dust storm if you take your time with filling your tank. I placed a garbage bag inside the tank and poured the water slowly over that! and eventually the bag will float leaving clean water underneath! I did that on my old 110 and on my current 20. But if you want to remove any unwanted organics, then yes, I would rinse!

07/18/2007, 05:19 AM	#10
jamiep Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Ireland Posts: 458	I would wash. If your really worried about mould, put the sand in a bucket of water and add some milton fluid (just a drop is all thats needed about a table spoon), let it sit for 30mins and then rinse it out till it runs extermly close to clear.