have to order skimmer today, which one?

[chirojosh]

Im looking for a HO skimmer for our soon to be 75G FOWLR.

livestock will be yellow tang, coral beauty dwarf angel, 2 clowns, 6 chromis and a royal gramma, plus snails/ hermits.

Ive been researching the heck out of this. Originally planned on getting a CLSS 125 for like 125$, then other forums plus the big shots on WWM moved me to the Remora Pro with Mag 3. Then I came hear and heard the opposite. Not sure what to do

1)Remora pro with mag 3= I know everyone will say no= 227$
most affordable

2)Bermuda rogue wave about 300$ after i get mag 3= man I wish there was more on this thing!

3) Tunze 9010 in tank. We wanted to aquascape with the two islands of rock in opposite corners, this will likely prevent that from happening. Is it that good to spend 327$ and put in my 75g Fowlr, or is it overkill?

[barngeatbayman]

Tunze DOC 9010 is that good. You should see the skimmate I am getting and all I have is Live Rock in the tank now!!

[chirojosh]

this was on WWm

Tunze Comline Series:

These are some of the absolute best venturi driven skimmers on the market. They are very simple to adjust and have a collection cup that is easy to remove and clean. Also, their fine German construction makes them one of the most reliable brands on the market, and their size recommendations are accurate. On the downside, their installation is a bit strange. The body needs to be nearly fully submerged and the water level must remain constant to function, but this can easily be dealt with by using a baffle system in your sump to provide a place with a constant water level for the skimmer to operate in. Also, the body is difficult to clean and it can be tricky to replace the pump when removed for maintenance. Lastly, they do not produce the same thickness of skimmate of say, a Euro-Reef, but still they are a fine, consistent performer that is reasonably priced and built to last.

"water level must remain constant to function"
not sure bout this, but with evap etc, will this be a problem?

[barngeatbayman]

I operate the skimmer in my sump. I havent seen a dropoff in performance from evaporation yet. I have had it apart. Once you figure how it all goes together I cant see how this would be a problem to take apart to clean. Other than cleaning the cup every few days the manual tells you to take it apart once a year and clean the body. When you clean the cup they tell you to keep the pump running that "cleans" the body out. This skimmer skims wet. I like it very much. Are there better skimmers out there, probably, but for its size and price you cant beat it. I also know that Rodger from Tunze stands behind his product and that is worth its weight in gold if you ever have a problem. This is a no brainer in my book. The critics of this skimmer are few and far between.

[fraggin]

Tunze 9010, plug and play

[kodyboy]

tunze 9010 or bermuda rogue wave

[luke33]

FWIW, bermuda said there rogue pulled 360lph or air with an eco396(junk pump) this is the equivalent of 13scfh or 6.14lpm air. This is actually pretty good for a hot skimmer. I'm sure with a better pump it would be much better and approach 20scfh.

[glassbox-design]

i'd go with the tunze. roger is great and will help you with any issues. it will outskim the others mentioned here as well as be quieter and use less energy.

if you have the money i'd swing for a deltec mce600, it's a hob and no pump sits in the tank...meaning an overall better looking tank


luke, can you get pics of the meter at 360lph? or some decent pics of it up here? in all honesty the pics that have been posted look more like 50lph... you could clearly see through the chamber as the bubble density wasnt there...

[luke33]

I'd agree with you flint.....unfortunately i don't have any! The skimmer wasn't set up correctly when those pics were taken. Unfortuanately no one with this skimmer is doing much posting these days. So i'd still suggest the tunze. Until there's proof, i'm recommending the tunze.

[afelder]

I really like the Bermuda. I also have gotten excellent customer service from them (to be fair I used to live a block away from their shop). If you run a mag 5 on the Remora it isn't too bad of a skimmer.

[luke33]

With all due respect...the remora is junk.

[kodyboy]

I second the remora is junk
I would go with a tunze 9010 or a bermuda rogue wave

[Lumamae]

AquaC(rap)

[luke33]

Holy smokes, here's a pic of the rogue....its skimming a bit wet thogh.

[pmeninger]

Ive had my CSS 125 for almost 2 years and I love it... for the $ and the fact that it is a HOB that does not take a lot of room I feel that it is a solid choice.

I made alterations to the return on the bubble deffusier box, the box is the only downfall of the CSS 125

[Henry Bowman]

Tunze.....never heard anyone say that they didnt work as advertised. The others listed have their fans and well "non fans"

[pjf]

Originally posted by chirojosh
3) Tunze 9010 in tank. We wanted to aquascape with the two islands of rock in opposite corners, this will likely prevent that from happening. Is it that good to spend 327$ and put in my 75g Fowlr, or is it overkill?

In the long run, you will be better served by a sump. It will reduce clutter in the main tank, allow for better skimming, and leave room for your aquascape. The advantage of a Tunze 9010 is that you can start your aquarium with the 9010 placed in-tank and then reconfigure it for in-sump use at a later time.

Another alternative is to complete your sump and plumb it to accomodate an external recirculating skimmer. The DAS EX-1 is only $259.99 (http://www.protein-skimmer.com/shopp...itemdetail.asp). You can perform more water changes until your sump and skimmer plumbing is completed.

[glassbox-design]

that picture of the bermuda is disapointing to see. that doesnt look near 360lph and that is the wetest skimmate i've ever seen. hopefully we can get some more pics, lph readings and reviews.

[PSam]

A bit wet? That looks like the skimmate from the sapphire nano skimmer lol. weak....

[luke33]

I'd disagree with your 360lph comment. Thats only 13scfh, which isn't a ton so i think it looks about right. Now the skimmate is pretty wet. Actually very wet. Its going to take alot more pics to convince me.

[mg426]

Out of your picks get the Tunze.

[glassbox-design]

my deltec does 300lph and looks like white PVC. granted the bermuda has a larger reaction chamber, but it's also thinner.


360lph in a thin hang on is a lot of air. you can tell that's not 360lph just by the amount froth of bubbles at the water level.

[sjm817]

What does the Rogue look like from the tank side? Does it have a Mag pump dangling in plain view like a Remora?

[luke33]

Yes like a remora. And yes the whole air pull is questionable. SOmeone needs to test it besides bermuda.

[sjm817]

The dangling pump thing is not very attractive, but thats what sumps are for.