what is a good sand cleaning fish or Invertebrate but i have 2 Engineer Gobies?

jake32010 · 11/05/2007, 11:58 PM

what is a good sand cleaning fish or Invertebrate but i have 2 Engineer Gobies? they just clean the sand under the rocks. and will a Diamond Goby go well with my Engineer Gobies? please help!!!

BodiBuilt · 11/06/2007, 12:17 AM

Gobie's can become a nuciance and may actually disturbe your sand bed "too much"... if you are concerned with stirring your sand bed, perhap's consider some (true) Nassarius snail's... : ) (maybe 25-30 or so for your tank size)

coast2coast7390 · 11/06/2007, 01:40 AM

thats a good choice...snails...in a 72 gallon bow front you dont need that many 20 is a good number...you dont want to stir the sand too much

hermits can help with this process as well

the gobies you have dont really do anything except get big and build a network of tunnels under your rock

Drock169 · 11/06/2007, 02:32 AM

I like the hectors goby for sand sifting

miketrevino · 11/06/2007, 03:25 AM

i vote for nassarius snails as sand sifters.

Sk8r · 11/06/2007, 09:54 AM

You need snails and hermits, but a clean sandbed is death to a marine tank. A dirty one is, too. You have to keep it medium-dirty, so it will support life, feed copepods, etc. In a 75g, you need about 10 cerith snails, couple of turbos or astraeas, about 10-15 micro-hermits [that don't grow bigger than a cerith shell], and 3-5 nassarius [under-sand] snails. Your engineer gobies will move so much sand on their own I really wouldn't recommend a sandsifter, as it would probably starve to death in a short while. The exception would be a yellow watchman goby, which will sift about 5" at a time, move about a little, and will gladly eat pellet food or anything else available.

kydsexy · 11/06/2007, 11:20 AM

** not to those against my great engineer gobies. when you set your tank up, you always add LR then sand so that the rock is sitting on the bottom of the tank, that way the cant go under your rocks.

nassarius snails are like zombies, they only come up when you feed the tank, creepy. but do a great job of stirring up sand. i heard that wrasses sleep in the sand? is that true anyone? that you kinda help

jake32010 · 11/06/2007, 04:31 PM

thanks for the help i did get some nassarius snails and a sand sifting starfish thanks

Aadler · 11/06/2007, 05:24 PM

my mccosker flasher wrasse dug a hole under a rock into the sand and sleeps there. The 6line i used to have would wrap himself in a cocoon.

uscharalph · 11/06/2007, 07:00 PM

My Engineer Goby rearranges my sand all the time. He stirs up detrius and a lot of it makes its way into my overflow and into a filter sock.

11/05/2007, 11:58 PM	#1
jake32010 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Stuart, Florida Posts: 162	what is a good sand cleaning fish or Invertebrate but i have 2 Engineer Gobies? what is a good sand cleaning fish or Invertebrate but i have 2 Engineer Gobies? they just clean the sand under the rocks. and will a Diamond Goby go well with my Engineer Gobies? please help!!! __________________ "Anyone who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new."---Albert Einstein A great dyslexic like me! Current Tank Info: 46 gallon bowfront

11/06/2007, 12:17 AM	#2
BodiBuilt Premium Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: NorCal Posts: 1,326	Gobie's can become a nuciance and may actually disturbe your sand bed "too much"... if you are concerned with stirring your sand bed, perhap's consider some (true) Nassarius snail's... : ) (maybe 25-30 or so for your tank size) __________________ Tell Them Dave Was Here Current Tank Info: 280g In Progress

11/06/2007, 03:25 AM	#5
miketrevino Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Huntington Beach, CA Posts: 19	i vote for nassarius snails as sand sifters. __________________ the only one who sells empty boxes is the undertaker. Current Tank Info: 12g nano reef, and a 120 g reef w/40g sump, 20g refugium

11/06/2007, 09:54 AM	#6
Sk8r RC Mod Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 34,628 Blog Entries: 55	You need snails and hermits, but a clean sandbed is death to a marine tank. A dirty one is, too. You have to keep it medium-dirty, so it will support life, feed copepods, etc. In a 75g, you need about 10 cerith snails, couple of turbos or astraeas, about 10-15 micro-hermits [that don't grow bigger than a cerith shell], and 3-5 nassarius [under-sand] snails. Your engineer gobies will move so much sand on their own I really wouldn't recommend a sandsifter, as it would probably starve to death in a short while. The exception would be a yellow watchman goby, which will sift about 5" at a time, move about a little, and will gladly eat pellet food or anything else available. __________________ Sk8r Salinity 1.024-6; alkalinity 8.3-9.3 on KH scale; calcium 420; magnesium 1300, temp 78-80, nitrate .2. Ammonia 0. No filters: lps tank. Alk and cal won't rise if mg is low. Current Tank Info: 105g AquaVim wedge, yellow tang, sailfin blenny,royal gramma, ocellaris clown pair, yellow watchman, 100 microceriths, 25 tiny hermits, a 4" conch, 1" nassarius, recovering from 2 year hiatus with daily water change of 10%.

11/06/2007, 04:31 PM	#8
jake32010 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Stuart, Florida Posts: 162	thanks for the help i did get some nassarius snails and a sand sifting starfish thanks __________________ "Anyone who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new."---Albert Einstein A great dyslexic like me! Current Tank Info: 46 gallon bowfront

11/06/2007, 01:40 AM	#3
coast2coast7390 Moved On Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Garden Grove Posts: 3,627	thats a good choice...snails...in a 72 gallon bow front you dont need that many 20 is a good number...you dont want to stir the sand too much hermits can help with this process as well the gobies you have dont really do anything except get big and build a network of tunnels under your rock

11/06/2007, 02:32 AM	#4
Drock169 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 318	I like the hectors goby for sand sifting

11/06/2007, 11:20 AM	#7
kydsexy Moved On Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Middletown, CT Posts: 390	** not to those against my great engineer gobies. when you set your tank up, you always add LR then sand so that the rock is sitting on the bottom of the tank, that way the cant go under your rocks. nassarius snails are like zombies, they only come up when you feed the tank, creepy. but do a great job of stirring up sand. i heard that wrasses sleep in the sand? is that true anyone? that you kinda help

11/06/2007, 05:24 PM	#9
Aadler Registered Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Cleveland, OH Posts: 1,336	my mccosker flasher wrasse dug a hole under a rock into the sand and sleeps there. The 6line i used to have would wrap himself in a cocoon. __________________ MiniBow 7 - WooHoo

11/06/2007, 07:00 PM	#10
uscharalph Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Long Beach, CA Posts: 1,248	My Engineer Goby rearranges my sand all the time. He stirs up detrius and a lot of it makes its way into my overflow and into a filter sock. __________________ Ralph Mendoza Jr. Long Beach, CA Current Tank Info: 80 Gallon Reef Tank