shocking heater im getting fed up

whosurcaddie · 12/17/2007, 11:06 AM

I have had two titanium heaters one a pro heat 2 and I cant remember the other (something heater 3000) but they both were releasing electric current into the water. Yeah it hurts pretty bad when you put your hand in I know that sounds stupid. I have tried other types of heaters none of them will heat with efficiency of the titanium heaters. So is this normal or is there a heater out there that wont shock me or my fish.

Octopussie · 12/17/2007, 02:10 PM

i had the same problem lol. it turned out to be a small crack in the wire. i just siliconed it and it works great now.

reef / aholic · 12/17/2007, 03:54 PM

Usually it is a crack in the heater coil from being dropped or plugged in while out of the water. I would just toss them and use Visi-Therm Stealth Heater!!!

LoyalConvict · 12/17/2007, 04:13 PM

i also use a visi-therm stealth and my total water volume is around 180 gallons and the temp doesnt fluctuate to much usualy around 3/4 to 1 degree, i also was getting shocked by a pump for my skimmer and lost 2 fish to LLD lateral line disease AKA "hole in head disease" i also strongly recomend a stealth heater

kdblove_99 · 12/17/2007, 05:10 PM

I really like The Ebo Jagers. been using them for years and never had an issue with one

whosurcaddie · 12/17/2007, 05:39 PM

What size visi therm (watt). Thanks. I have a 120 gallon tank. Total water volume 160 gallons.

LoyalConvict · 12/17/2007, 06:09 PM

I run 2 of the 250's i think thats the highest watt they make for the stealth's, but when i first set up my tank (a 90) and a 55 gallon fuge i only had 1 heater going, but when i added in my 30 gallon fuge and TidePool II i added another heater just in case, but had no issues with running just 1 with 140 gallons

pjf · 12/17/2007, 06:39 PM

The Eheim Jager heaters can be calibrated and contains an LED indicator. The Stealth cannot be calibrated. Lacking an LED, you cannot even tell if the Stealth is working.

LoyalConvict · 12/17/2007, 06:51 PM

the only thing i dont like about the jagers is that they are not fully submersable, and what do you mean by cannot be calibrated?

pjf · 12/17/2007, 07:56 PM

To prevent stray voltages, I use a GFCI outlet. I also have a titanium grounding probe but have not used it.

Per Eheim's Jager webpage (http://www.eheim.com/jager.htm), the Jager heaters are now certified to be fully submersible.

The Jager heaters can be calibrated by prying up the blue button to adjust the temperature selector disk. The complete instructions are here: http://www.boroniaaquarium.com.au/ne...514e6d836edb6f

LoyalConvict · 12/17/2007, 09:15 PM

oh, ok thanx, its always nice ta learn sumthin. as far as i knew they were not submersible thank u for the correction.

reef / aholic · 12/17/2007, 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pjf
you cannot even tell if the Stealth is working.

That why you use 2 Visi-Therm Stealth Heaters and this Ranco - ETC Dual Stage Controller!!!

12/17/2007, 11:06 AM	#1
whosurcaddie Registered Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 2,354	shocking heater im getting fed up I have had two titanium heaters one a pro heat 2 and I cant remember the other (something heater 3000) but they both were releasing electric current into the water. Yeah it hurts pretty bad when you put your hand in I know that sounds stupid. I have tried other types of heaters none of them will heat with efficiency of the titanium heaters. So is this normal or is there a heater out there that wont shock me or my fish.

12/17/2007, 02:10 PM	#2
Octopussie Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Saginaw, Mi Posts: 196	i had the same problem lol. it turned out to be a small crack in the wire. i just siliconed it and it works great now. __________________ Anthony Brandi Current Tank Info: 85g reef. 20g sump. phosban reactor. berlin HOB skimmer. 2 x 250w 20k mh. Closed loop.

12/17/2007, 04:13 PM	#4
LoyalConvict Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 468	i also use a visi-therm stealth and my total water volume is around 180 gallons and the temp doesnt fluctuate to much usualy around 3/4 to 1 degree, i also was getting shocked by a pump for my skimmer and lost 2 fish to LLD lateral line disease AKA "hole in head disease" i also strongly recomend a stealth heater __________________ Contemplating sushifried I Have - Ichthyophobia, Hydrophobia, Hyalophobia, and Hippopotomonstrosesquippedaliophobia Current Tank Info: 90 Reef, 55 fuge - 75 FOWLR 30 fuge

12/17/2007, 06:09 PM	#7
LoyalConvict Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 468	I run 2 of the 250's i think thats the highest watt they make for the stealth's, but when i first set up my tank (a 90) and a 55 gallon fuge i only had 1 heater going, but when i added in my 30 gallon fuge and TidePool II i added another heater just in case, but had no issues with running just 1 with 140 gallons __________________ Contemplating sushifried I Have - Ichthyophobia, Hydrophobia, Hyalophobia, and Hippopotomonstrosesquippedaliophobia Current Tank Info: 90 Reef, 55 fuge - 75 FOWLR 30 fuge

12/17/2007, 06:51 PM	#9
LoyalConvict Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 468	the only thing i dont like about the jagers is that they are not fully submersable, and what do you mean by cannot be calibrated? __________________ Contemplating sushifried I Have - Ichthyophobia, Hydrophobia, Hyalophobia, and Hippopotomonstrosesquippedaliophobia Current Tank Info: 90 Reef, 55 fuge - 75 FOWLR 30 fuge

12/17/2007, 03:54 PM	#3
reef / aholic Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: houston \| texas Posts: 647	Usually it is a crack in the heater coil from being dropped or plugged in while out of the water. I would just toss them and use Visi-Therm Stealth Heater!!!

12/17/2007, 05:10 PM	#5
kdblove_99 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Frederick,CO Posts: 8,683	I really like The Ebo Jagers. been using them for years and never had an issue with one

12/17/2007, 05:39 PM	#6
whosurcaddie Registered Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 2,354	What size visi therm (watt). Thanks. I have a 120 gallon tank. Total water volume 160 gallons.

12/17/2007, 06:39 PM	#8
pjf Premium Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,954	The Eheim Jager heaters can be calibrated and contains an LED indicator. The Stealth cannot be calibrated. Lacking an LED, you cannot even tell if the Stealth is working.

12/17/2007, 07:56 PM	#10
pjf Premium Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,954	To prevent stray voltages, I use a GFCI outlet. I also have a titanium grounding probe but have not used it. Per Eheim's Jager webpage (http://www.eheim.com/jager.htm), the Jager heaters are now certified to be fully submersible. The Jager heaters can be calibrated by prying up the blue button to adjust the temperature selector disk. The complete instructions are here: http://www.boroniaaquarium.com.au/ne...514e6d836edb6f

12/17/2007, 09:15 PM	#11
LoyalConvict Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 468	oh, ok thanx, its always nice ta learn sumthin. as far as i knew they were not submersible thank u for the correction. __________________ Contemplating sushifried I Have - Ichthyophobia, Hydrophobia, Hyalophobia, and Hippopotomonstrosesquippedaliophobia Current Tank Info: 90 Reef, 55 fuge - 75 FOWLR 30 fuge