ASM or Aqua C?

cyclops23 · 12/19/2007, 01:12 AM

need some opinions here. i can get either an ASM G3 w/gatevalve mod or an Aqua C EV 240. the Aqua C is about $70 more, but i want to know if it's worth it. footprint counts too, i guess. i never thought of that before right now. the space i have for it is 11"x about 18", the water will be about 8" deep (55g AGA sump). it's for a 125g FOWLR. but there'll be a puffer, eel, trigger, possibly a tang. so it'll be a pretty messy tank. any thoughts would be great.

kdblove_99 · 12/19/2007, 02:24 AM

Is it those two choices only? If not check out the DAS EX . Would have to see the footprint to mske sure. But its a Recirc skimmer but can be placed in your sump. So water leve is never an issue

kdblove_99 · 12/19/2007, 02:25 AM

here they are Skimmer dimensions: 16.1"x11"x27.5"

luke33 · 12/19/2007, 07:16 AM

The octo extreme's look promising as well. The extreme 160 or 200 should work fine. The das ex2 would be a good fit as well. I would take those over the above skimmers you listed any day of the week.

mg426 · 12/19/2007, 09:06 AM

Octo evtreme is the way I would go.

Wryknow · 12/19/2007, 11:22 AM

Well, of the two I would lean towards the AquaC 240 myself. I think that it will handle the larger waste load from your fish better. Also, the Aqua-C can be run externally if sump space is an issue. Just be sure to get to get a pump on the top end of what they recommend - the spray injection works better with more power IMPE. Also, the effluent chamber is a good idea.

cyclops23 · 12/19/2007, 11:50 AM

the DAS EX is out, i can't afford it. i do like the look of the octo extremes, but can they be used externally? i ask about the Aqua C and G3 because i can get them for a reasonable price. the octo is in that price range, too.
my problem is that my 55g sump is in the stand for my 125g. there isn't a lot of room between the top of the sump and the top of the stand. i can barely reach the bottom of the tank. so any skimmer that's too big, i won't even be able to get it in the sump. i think external is the way to go, which eliminates the G3.
BTW, how hard is it to plumb a skimmer in?

luke33 · 12/19/2007, 12:13 PM

Its not hard to plum in a skimmer, just have to make sure every thing is leak safe. The octo's cannot be run externally.

cyclops23 · 12/19/2007, 02:29 PM

i really like the looks of the octo's. affordable, yet well planned. i like the idea if the pump on the bottom instead of on the side. and it comes witha good pump w/ a mesh wheel. i just don't know if i'll be able to make it fit. i have about 7" clearance between the top of the sump and the face of the stand.
here's what i have to work with

whole sump

if that won't work, will the octo BHF300F work for me? i don't mind hanging it off the tank itself, it'd be easier to get to that way. is it big enough for my tank? my buddy (who helped me plumb my tank) is giving me a Red Sea Prizm that he used on his 125g. i know it's not a very good skimmer, but i'll throw it in there so i don't hurt his feelings. will the 2 of them make up the difference?
thanks for all the help!

cyclops23 · 12/19/2007, 02:30 PM

here's a link to the BHF300F
http://www.marinesolutionsinc.com/ca...duct_info.html

i can't seem to find much more info on it.

luke33 · 12/19/2007, 02:40 PM

There supose to be in on friday. I'm getting one shipped out to me soon to test out. But i'm not sure if it'll work for a 125. I'm guessing a 75ish will be all it can handle. I bet you could slide the extreme 160 in there but not sure about any of the others.

cyclops23 · 12/19/2007, 02:53 PM

i would order the extreme 160 right now, but i want to be sure it will fit. do you think the water is high enough for it to work right?

luke33 · 12/19/2007, 03:02 PM

I bet if the water is from 6-10" it would work just fine. Just search for what the ati bubblemaster s ideal depth is.

cyclops23 · 12/19/2007, 10:45 PM

the guy from reefgeek said that the ati's work best at 6-7". so i should be good with the xtreme. i may even have to build a stand.

luke33 · 12/19/2007, 10:48 PM

Thats what i figured. IMO, you only want the water level a few inches above the pump. It keeps the watts down and performance up. Unless its a recirc

12/19/2007, 01:12 AM	#1
cyclops23 Premium Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Milton, WI Posts: 613	ASM or Aqua C? need some opinions here. i can get either an ASM G3 w/gatevalve mod or an Aqua C EV 240. the Aqua C is about $70 more, but i want to know if it's worth it. footprint counts too, i guess. i never thought of that before right now. the space i have for it is 11"x about 18", the water will be about 8" deep (55g AGA sump). it's for a 125g FOWLR. but there'll be a puffer, eel, trigger, possibly a tang. so it'll be a pretty messy tank. any thoughts would be great.

12/19/2007, 09:06 AM	#5
mg426 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: maryland Posts: 6,923	Octo evtreme is the way I would go. __________________ I found a way to make a small fortune running a reef tank. Start with a large fortune. Unofficial President of the SEACLONE haters club Current Tank Info: 125 mixed reef 110 lbs LR, 1x250watt XM 20K MH 2x175watt XM 20K MH on Magetics 2X96 watt actinic PC, 220 watt VHO actinic, 30 gallon refugium, closed loop system powered by Sequence Dart MSX 200 skimmer 38 gallon sump, Oceansmotions squirt

12/19/2007, 11:22 AM	#6
Wryknow Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 1,203	Well, of the two I would lean towards the AquaC 240 myself. I think that it will handle the larger waste load from your fish better. Also, the Aqua-C can be run externally if sump space is an issue. Just be sure to get to get a pump on the top end of what they recommend - the spray injection works better with more power IMPE. Also, the effluent chamber is a good idea. __________________ You cannot use reason to change the opinion of a person that did not use reason to form their opinion in the first place. Current Tank Info: 65 G RR, w/ 50 G sump/refugium, DIY LED lighting, AquaMaxx CO-1 skimmer, Tunze 1073.050 return

12/19/2007, 02:24 AM	#2
kdblove_99 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Frederick,CO Posts: 8,683	Is it those two choices only? If not check out the DAS EX . Would have to see the footprint to mske sure. But its a Recirc skimmer but can be placed in your sump. So water leve is never an issue

12/19/2007, 02:25 AM	#3
kdblove_99 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Frederick,CO Posts: 8,683	here they are Skimmer dimensions: 16.1"x11"x27.5"

12/19/2007, 07:16 AM	#4
luke33 Moved On Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Indiana Posts: 8,375	The octo extreme's look promising as well. The extreme 160 or 200 should work fine. The das ex2 would be a good fit as well. I would take those over the above skimmers you listed any day of the week.

12/19/2007, 11:50 AM	#7
cyclops23 Premium Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Milton, WI Posts: 613	the DAS EX is out, i can't afford it. i do like the look of the octo extremes, but can they be used externally? i ask about the Aqua C and G3 because i can get them for a reasonable price. the octo is in that price range, too. my problem is that my 55g sump is in the stand for my 125g. there isn't a lot of room between the top of the sump and the top of the stand. i can barely reach the bottom of the tank. so any skimmer that's too big, i won't even be able to get it in the sump. i think external is the way to go, which eliminates the G3. BTW, how hard is it to plumb a skimmer in?

12/19/2007, 12:13 PM	#8
luke33 Moved On Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Indiana Posts: 8,375	Its not hard to plum in a skimmer, just have to make sure every thing is leak safe. The octo's cannot be run externally.

12/19/2007, 02:29 PM	#9
cyclops23 Premium Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Milton, WI Posts: 613	i really like the looks of the octo's. affordable, yet well planned. i like the idea if the pump on the bottom instead of on the side. and it comes witha good pump w/ a mesh wheel. i just don't know if i'll be able to make it fit. i have about 7" clearance between the top of the sump and the face of the stand. here's what i have to work with whole sump if that won't work, will the octo BHF300F work for me? i don't mind hanging it off the tank itself, it'd be easier to get to that way. is it big enough for my tank? my buddy (who helped me plumb my tank) is giving me a Red Sea Prizm that he used on his 125g. i know it's not a very good skimmer, but i'll throw it in there so i don't hurt his feelings. will the 2 of them make up the difference? thanks for all the help!

12/19/2007, 02:30 PM	#10
cyclops23 Premium Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Milton, WI Posts: 613	here's a link to the BHF300F http://www.marinesolutionsinc.com/ca...duct_info.html i can't seem to find much more info on it.

12/19/2007, 02:40 PM	#11
luke33 Moved On Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Indiana Posts: 8,375	There supose to be in on friday. I'm getting one shipped out to me soon to test out. But i'm not sure if it'll work for a 125. I'm guessing a 75ish will be all it can handle. I bet you could slide the extreme 160 in there but not sure about any of the others.

12/19/2007, 02:53 PM	#12
cyclops23 Premium Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Milton, WI Posts: 613	i would order the extreme 160 right now, but i want to be sure it will fit. do you think the water is high enough for it to work right?

12/19/2007, 03:02 PM	#13
luke33 Moved On Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Indiana Posts: 8,375	I bet if the water is from 6-10" it would work just fine. Just search for what the ati bubblemaster s ideal depth is.

12/19/2007, 10:45 PM	#14
cyclops23 Premium Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Milton, WI Posts: 613	the guy from reefgeek said that the ati's work best at 6-7". so i should be good with the xtreme. i may even have to build a stand.

12/19/2007, 10:48 PM	#15
luke33 Moved On Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Indiana Posts: 8,375	Thats what i figured. IMO, you only want the water level a few inches above the pump. It keeps the watts down and performance up. Unless its a recirc