Deltec AP-600 Protein Skimmer .vs Reef Octopus EXT-PS150

xenon · 02/23/2008, 01:18 AM

I know the Deltec is more expensive but I need to know witch skimmer will outperform the other?

Thanks!!!

Deltec AP-600 Protein Skimmer
- Capacity: 200 Gallons (normal), 130 Gallons (heavy)
- Pump: Aqua-Bee 2000
- Total Power Usage: 20W
- Air Intake: 480 Litres/Hour
- Dimensions: 11"L X 8.5"W x 22.5"H
- Cylinder: 5"
- Intake/Return Pipe Height: 12"/12.5"
- Intake/Return Union: 0.5"/1.0"

OctopusExtreme External PS150
- 6" Diameter by 21.5" Tall
- Footprint: 10" x 12"
- Air intake: 450 l/h
- Pump Power: OTP-2000 38Watts
- Max Tank Size: 200 Gallon

SoLiD · 02/23/2008, 02:32 AM

Check out my other thread.

http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...8#post11914218

recife111 · 02/23/2008, 04:39 AM

The Deltec is far better than the cheap octopus. The octopus skimmers skim ok for a few months then they dont skim very well.

Long term you will be far better off with a Deltec skimmer.

USC-fan · 02/23/2008, 08:33 AM

The correct answer is the DAS ex-1.

It is a licensed copy of the deltec APF600 and can be brought for under $300.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Dutch-Aquarium-S...QQcmdZViewItem

sjm817 · 02/23/2008, 08:35 AM

AFAIK, it's not the same as an APF600. Its like an AP600 with an APF600 pump. It is a very good deal.

USC-fan · 02/23/2008, 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sjm817
AFAIK, it's not the same as an APF600. Its like an AP600 with an APF600 pump. It is a very good deal.

I thought the only difference between the ex-1 and apf600 was the apf600 has a little bigger collection cup. Other than that they are pretty much the same skimmer. What am I missing?

deltec apf600
Dimensions: Length: 11" Width: 8.5" Height: 23.5"
Cylinder: 5"
LPH: 500

DAS ex-1
Skimmer dimensions: 15.4"x7.1"x23.4"
Mixing tube diameter: 5"
LPH: 500

Deltec ap600
Dimensions: Length: 11" Width: 8.5" Height: 22.75"
Cylinder: 5"
LPH" 480

sjm817 · 02/23/2008, 08:46 AM

The APF has a much bigger cup, and more importantly, a larger diameter neck to handle the extra air from the larger pump. Deltec claims an AB2001 is too big for the AP600 body.

Here is a pic of an AP600, APF600, and AP701.

DAS EX1:

nikonosis · 02/23/2008, 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by recife111
The Deltec is far better than the cheap octopus. The octopus skimmers skim ok for a few months then they dont skim very well.

Long term you will be far better off with a Deltec skimmer.

lol, where do you get that information? I have used octopus skimmers since they first came out and it skims just as well now as it did when I got it.

That is hilarious that you say that.

nikonosis · 02/23/2008, 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by xenon
I know the Deltec is more expensive but I need to know witch skimmer will outperform the other?

Thanks!!!

Deltec AP-600 Protein Skimmer
- Capacity: 200 Gallons (normal), 130 Gallons (heavy)
- Pump: Aqua-Bee 2000
- Total Power Usage: 20W
- Air Intake: 480 Litres/Hour
- Dimensions: 11"L X 8.5"W x 22.5"H
- Cylinder: 5"
- Intake/Return Pipe Height: 12"/12.5"
- Intake/Return Union: 0.5"/1.0"

OctopusExtreme External PS150
- 6" Diameter by 21.5" Tall
- Footprint: 10" x 12"
- Air intake: 450 l/h
- Pump Power: OTP-2000 38Watts
- Max Tank Size: 200 Gallon

Why are you even asking this here? 100 Deltec fan boys will come out of the wood work and cut on the Octopus skimmer because they think whatever they bought must be the best. Even though they don't really know which is the best.

I am willing to bet that there isn't a single person that has replied so far that has even seen an ext ps150 in real life, let alone used one...

USC-fan · 02/23/2008, 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sjm817
The APF has a much bigger cup, and more importantly, a larger diameter neck to handle the extra air from the larger pump. Deltec claims an AB2001 is too big for the AP600 body.

What is the neck size of the apf600?

nikonosis · 02/23/2008, 09:08 AM

You could get an Octopus Ext PRO 250, for the same price as that Deltec, when it comes out. LOL

Uses a Laguna Needle wheel pump

nikonosis · 02/23/2008, 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SoLiD
Check out my other thread.

http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...8#post11914218

That thread doesn't have the same skimmers talked about here, it has an old octopus skimmer for 1. Also, there wasn't a single person that replied that had used that octopus skimmer before.

nikonosis · 02/23/2008, 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by nikonosis
You could get an Octopus Ext PRO 250, for the same price as that Deltec, when it comes out. LOL

Internal version.
http://www.premiumaquatics.com/Merch...y_Code=Octopus

USC-fan · 02/23/2008, 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by nikonosis
That thread doesn't have the same skimmers talked about here, it has an old octopus skimmer for 1. Also, there wasn't a single person that replied that had used that octopus skimmer before.

Are you kidding me?

luke33 is one of the biggest octopus modders on this board....he can work magic with the octopus skimmers.

Coralfreak · 02/23/2008, 09:35 AM

I ran an Octo 150, mesh modded, against a Deltec AP 600, the Deltec is a much better skimmer IMO.

nikonosis · 02/23/2008, 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by USC-fan
Are you kidding me?

luke33 is one of the biggest octopus modders on this board....he can work magic with the octopus skimmers.

He has used an Octopus Extreme External PS150???

nikonosis · 02/23/2008, 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Coralfreak
I ran an Octo 150, mesh modded, against a Deltec AP 600, the Deltec is a much better skimmer IMO.

You seriously ran it vs one of these?

OR WAS IT VS THIS?

There is a HUGE DIFFERENCE between the 2!

nikonosis · 02/23/2008, 09:43 AM

I wonder how many of you people actually think that he is talking about that 2nd picture I posted and not this one...

Coralfreak · 02/23/2008, 09:45 AM

Yeah, you got me, I didnt realize this was the newer Octo. It was the older model. Not sure how that would come out.

xenon · 02/23/2008, 09:45 AM

I cant go with a DAS EX-1 because I only have 24" in height to work with.

It's 23.4" so I bet it would be too tight to remove the collection cup.

nikonosis · 02/23/2008, 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Coralfreak
Yeah, you got me, I didnt realize this was the newer Octo. It was the older model. Not sure how that would come out.

The needle wheel, venturi, and pumps are completely changed on the internals of the pump. I have owned the older model and newer EXT model and they are 100% different.

nikonosis · 02/23/2008, 09:54 AM

I personally think you should maybe wait for one of these if you can wait till the end of March and if money is no object. I don't think they are too tall but I could be wrong.

shyland83 · 02/23/2008, 10:01 AM

Nikonosis. you have any experience with the ext 250? I am looking for a new skimmer for my 120 sps tank. I was looking at the Euroreef RC-135 or the RS-180. any suggestions. I would consider both the ext-150 and the ext-200. or any other suggestions. dont mean to hijack your thread.

xenon · 02/23/2008, 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by nikonosis
I personally think you should maybe wait for one of these if you can wait till the end of March and if money is no object. I don't think they are too tall but I could be wrong.

What is the footprint on that beast?

nikonosis · 02/23/2008, 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by shyland83
Nikonosis. you have any experience with the ext 250? I am looking for a new skimmer for my 120 sps tank. I was looking at the Euroreef RC-135 or the RS-180. any suggestions. I would consider both the ext-150 and the ext-200. or any other suggestions. dont mean to hijack your thread.

No experience with it yet but I have been following several threads where people have been beta testing it. It looks extremely promising.

02/23/2008, 01:18 AM	#1
xenon Owner of Canada Corals Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Mississauga, Canada Posts: 3,148	Deltec AP-600 Protein Skimmer .vs Reef Octopus EXT-PS150 I know the Deltec is more expensive but I need to know witch skimmer will outperform the other? Thanks!!! Deltec AP-600 Protein Skimmer - Capacity: 200 Gallons (normal), 130 Gallons (heavy) - Pump: Aqua-Bee 2000 - Total Power Usage: 20W - Air Intake: 480 Litres/Hour - Dimensions: 11"L X 8.5"W x 22.5"H - Cylinder: 5" - Intake/Return Pipe Height: 12"/12.5" - Intake/Return Union: 0.5"/1.0" OctopusExtreme External PS150 - 6" Diameter by 21.5" Tall - Footprint: 10" x 12" - Air intake: 450 l/h - Pump Power: OTP-2000 38Watts - Max Tank Size: 200 Gallon

02/23/2008, 02:32 AM	#2
SoLiD -=Snake=- Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Corpus Christi, TX Posts: 999	Check out my other thread. http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...8#post11914218 __________________ -David 40 Gallon Breeder on Steroids!!! Current Tank Info: Where you'll find an Acan and Orange Ricordea Garden in Bloom...

02/23/2008, 08:35 AM	#5
sjm817 On Yer left! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Northern VA Posts: 18,777	AFAIK, it's not the same as an APF600. Its like an AP600 with an APF600 pump. It is a very good deal. __________________ - Scott

02/23/2008, 08:46 AM	#7
sjm817 On Yer left! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Northern VA Posts: 18,777	The APF has a much bigger cup, and more importantly, a larger diameter neck to handle the extra air from the larger pump. Deltec claims an AB2001 is too big for the AP600 body. Here is a pic of an AP600, APF600, and AP701. DAS EX1: __________________ - Scott Last edited by sjm817; 02/23/2008 at 08:57 AM.

02/23/2008, 09:08 AM	#11
nikonosis Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,935	You could get an Octopus Ext PRO 250, for the same price as that Deltec, when it comes out. LOL Uses a Laguna Needle wheel pump __________________ Home is where you hang your @ 75g rimless starfire 30x24x24, Bubble Magus NAC6, 2x Vortech MP10's and 1 MP40, MaxSpect G2-160 LED, Neptune Systems AquaController Apex/w wxm module, Eheim Compact+ 3000 Pump, Aqua UV Sterilizer, BRS GFO/Carbon reactor, Marine Magic doser, Aquahub DIY Top-it-Off Kit and Aqua Lifter Vacuum Pump Last edited by nikonosis; 02/23/2008 at 09:17 AM.

02/23/2008, 04:39 AM	#3
recife111 Moved On Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 386	The Deltec is far better than the cheap octopus. The octopus skimmers skim ok for a few months then they dont skim very well. Long term you will be far better off with a Deltec skimmer.

02/23/2008, 08:33 AM	#4
USC-fan Premium Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 3,626	The correct answer is the DAS ex-1. It is a licensed copy of the deltec APF600 and can be brought for under $300. http://cgi.ebay.com/Dutch-Aquarium-S...QQcmdZViewItem

02/23/2008, 09:35 AM	#15
Coralfreak Premium Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Oskaloosa, IA Posts: 1,453	I ran an Octo 150, mesh modded, against a Deltec AP 600, the Deltec is a much better skimmer IMO. __________________ For more info on my tank, click on the little red house. Current Tank Info: 60gal SPS dominated Starphire cube \| 90gal sump/Mangrove fuge \| H&S A150-F2001 \| Deltec KM500 \| Deltec PF500 Ca Rx \| Deltec FR509 \| 250W DE AB10K w/Lumenarc Stealth \| 2 T5 Actinics on Icecap \| 2 Tunze 6055's w/Aquasurf \| AC III

02/23/2008, 09:43 AM	#18
nikonosis Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,935	I wonder how many of you people actually think that he is talking about that 2nd picture I posted and not this one... __________________ Home is where you hang your @ 75g rimless starfire 30x24x24, Bubble Magus NAC6, 2x Vortech MP10's and 1 MP40, MaxSpect G2-160 LED, Neptune Systems AquaController Apex/w wxm module, Eheim Compact+ 3000 Pump, Aqua UV Sterilizer, BRS GFO/Carbon reactor, Marine Magic doser, Aquahub DIY Top-it-Off Kit and Aqua Lifter Vacuum Pump

02/23/2008, 09:45 AM	#19
Coralfreak Premium Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Oskaloosa, IA Posts: 1,453	Yeah, you got me, I didnt realize this was the newer Octo. It was the older model. Not sure how that would come out. __________________ For more info on my tank, click on the little red house. Current Tank Info: 60gal SPS dominated Starphire cube \| 90gal sump/Mangrove fuge \| H&S A150-F2001 \| Deltec KM500 \| Deltec PF500 Ca Rx \| Deltec FR509 \| 250W DE AB10K w/Lumenarc Stealth \| 2 T5 Actinics on Icecap \| 2 Tunze 6055's w/Aquasurf \| AC III

02/23/2008, 09:54 AM	#22
nikonosis Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,935	I personally think you should maybe wait for one of these if you can wait till the end of March and if money is no object. I don't think they are too tall but I could be wrong. __________________ Home is where you hang your @ 75g rimless starfire 30x24x24, Bubble Magus NAC6, 2x Vortech MP10's and 1 MP40, MaxSpect G2-160 LED, Neptune Systems AquaController Apex/w wxm module, Eheim Compact+ 3000 Pump, Aqua UV Sterilizer, BRS GFO/Carbon reactor, Marine Magic doser, Aquahub DIY Top-it-Off Kit and Aqua Lifter Vacuum Pump

02/23/2008, 10:01 AM	#23
shyland83 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Oakdale, Long Island Posts: 1,550	Nikonosis. you have any experience with the ext 250? I am looking for a new skimmer for my 120 sps tank. I was looking at the Euroreef RC-135 or the RS-180. any suggestions. I would consider both the ext-150 and the ext-200. or any other suggestions. dont mean to hijack your thread. __________________ -Scott Whenever I’m about to do something, I think “would an idiot do that?” and if they would, I do not do that thing Current Tank Info: 120 gallon mixed reef