bubble trap issue - pic included

SparkPlug · 04/15/2008, 03:43 PM

This is on a Dual overflow 120.
Return is a Ocean Runner 3500

My bubble trap on my 40 breeder sump is acting like a skimmer.
i've tried with tubes all the the way submerged,..halfway, and in the picture i tried filling the trap with rubble and shortening the tubes yet it still bubbles over the top.

how can i get this to stop ?

there isn't anything in the water nor has anything been added to make it foam.

do i need to put a valve on the return and slow it down a bit ?

help....lol

kar93 · 04/15/2008, 03:48 PM

why do you have the pump going into the bubble trap? Why not just the drain?

sjm817 · 04/15/2008, 04:06 PM

Put a collection cup on it!

gsxunv04 · 04/15/2008, 04:16 PM

agreed^good diy skimmer you got going on there!

SparkPlug · 04/15/2008, 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kar93
why do you have the pump going into the bubble trap? Why not just the drain?

huh ?...... the return pump is run correctly into the display.

Quote:

Put a collection cup on it!

Quote:

agreed^good diy skimmer you got going on there!

lol,... unfortunatly the foam is coming close to reaching over the the back of the sump and running down onto the stand. no good

also this is putting a ton of bubbles into the sump with giving me a minor micro bubble issue in the display.

anyone have any ideas ?

kar93 · 04/15/2008, 04:37 PM

shouldnt the drain just go into the bubble trap?

SparkPlug · 04/15/2008, 04:38 PM

yep.

dual overflow = 2 drains.

dzeadow · 04/15/2008, 04:44 PM

I had this problem and then it quit... I don't know why but it did. I stirred the water in that area w/ a tube and ever sine it hasn't done it. Maybe try putting a reverse durso there to allow the air to go up instead of down? dunno... sorry!

kar93 · 04/15/2008, 04:47 PM

Oh, My bad. I assumed when you mentioned the return pump you had it running into the bubble trap.

somewherre · 04/15/2008, 05:24 PM

What are you currently running for a skimmer? Maybe you need a better one?

kar93 · 04/15/2008, 05:25 PM

The skimmer shouldnt be a reason for bubbles.

somewherre · 04/17/2008, 02:15 PM

Only asking because based on your picture, you're not just having bubbles, but generating foam. I don't have a lot of experience in this hobby but I'm under the impression that foam is generated because of proteins and/or other organics being in the water. Thus, my first thought is that you're under-skimming; if it was simply bubbles, they wouldn't collect enough to create foam. It's just a suggestion, make what you will of it.

Peace

04/15/2008, 03:43 PM	#1
SparkPlug Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Farmington Ct Posts: 200	bubble trap issue - pic included This is on a Dual overflow 120. Return is a Ocean Runner 3500 My bubble trap on my 40 breeder sump is acting like a skimmer. i've tried with tubes all the the way submerged,..halfway, and in the picture i tried filling the trap with rubble and shortening the tubes yet it still bubbles over the top. how can i get this to stop ? there isn't anything in the water nor has anything been added to make it foam. do i need to put a valve on the return and slow it down a bit ? help....lol

04/15/2008, 04:06 PM	#3
sjm817 On Yer left! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Northern VA Posts: 18,777	Put a collection cup on it! __________________ - Scott

04/15/2008, 04:44 PM	#8
dzeadow Premium Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bozeman, MT Posts: 2,589	I had this problem and then it quit... I don't know why but it did. I stirred the water in that area w/ a tube and ever sine it hasn't done it. Maybe try putting a reverse durso there to allow the air to go up instead of down? dunno... sorry! __________________ - Danny Current Tank Info: Dual 50 Breeder system, 30g custom sump/fuge, MSX200, Tank1-6x24T5 retro, Tank2-4x39T5 retro

04/15/2008, 03:48 PM	#2
kar93 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Lincoln Posts: 5,521	why do you have the pump going into the bubble trap? Why not just the drain?

04/15/2008, 04:16 PM	#4
gsxunv04 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Western North Carolina Posts: 874	agreed^good diy skimmer you got going on there!

04/15/2008, 04:37 PM	#6
kar93 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Lincoln Posts: 5,521	shouldnt the drain just go into the bubble trap?

04/15/2008, 04:38 PM	#7
SparkPlug Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Farmington Ct Posts: 200	yep. dual overflow = 2 drains.

04/15/2008, 04:47 PM	#9
kar93 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Lincoln Posts: 5,521	Oh, My bad. I assumed when you mentioned the return pump you had it running into the bubble trap.

04/15/2008, 05:24 PM	#10
somewherre Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Castleton on Hudson, NY Posts: 68	What are you currently running for a skimmer? Maybe you need a better one?

04/15/2008, 05:25 PM	#11
kar93 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Lincoln Posts: 5,521	The skimmer shouldnt be a reason for bubbles.

04/17/2008, 02:15 PM	#12
somewherre Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Castleton on Hudson, NY Posts: 68	Only asking because based on your picture, you're not just having bubbles, but generating foam. I don't have a lot of experience in this hobby but I'm under the impression that foam is generated because of proteins and/or other organics being in the water. Thus, my first thought is that you're under-skimming; if it was simply bubbles, they wouldn't collect enough to create foam. It's just a suggestion, make what you will of it. Peace