Ich or air?

newbie-to-reef · 07/15/2008, 08:21 PM

I have a small 30 gal tank with lots of water flow and plenty of aeration.
I don't know if this is really a good thing or a bad thing. I have a venturi style skimmer that does surface skimming, but I don't know if it is really doing a good job since there are so many bubbles on the surface, there are also bubbles stuck to some of my rock and some of my weird little anemones. Now the concern is there are also bubbles stuck to my coral beauty. I have looked at some pics or fish with ich, but I don't really know if that is what it is. What do you think?

newbie-to-reef · 07/15/2008, 08:22 PM

Allanira · 07/15/2008, 08:35 PM

Thats air bubbles. I have them all over my freshwater aquarium cause of HOB filters. They push the air under the surface of the water. Plus you wont get ich on corals. Just on fish. I hve found that out. I would make a sump under the aquariun and get rid of the HOBs cause they can kill your corals. If air gets trapped under them they can get burned and die. Good luck

newbie-to-reef · 07/15/2008, 08:39 PM

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Originally posted by newbie-to-reef
Now the concern is there are also bubbles stuck to my coral beauty.

That is a coral beauty angel (Centropyge bispinosa ). It is really a pygmy. They only get about 4".

maikoa02 · 07/16/2008, 01:55 AM

Where is the pic of the fish?

newbie-to-reef · 07/16/2008, 07:15 PM

Aquarist007 · 07/16/2008, 07:43 PM

That coral beauty does have ich--I would quarantine as soon as possible and hyposalinate it.

There are instructions on my logbook thread for doing both
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...readid=1424845

1fishkeeper · 07/16/2008, 07:58 PM

dido capn good call there.

newbie-to-reef · 07/16/2008, 08:06 PM

Thanks capn, I was actually looking at that thread right now and we were discussing how we needed to deal with the issue since copper is a no-no in reef tanks.

Allanira · 07/16/2008, 08:32 PM

But the floating things in the tank are air bubbles. Trust me I see them everytime I look at my freshwater and until resently I saw them in my DT Saltwater (cant call it a reef yet lol). Do like Capn said hes great at problem solving on these things for us newbs. Have you thought about doing a sump with a refugium in the bottom of your stand? It works great on getting out a lot of the air bubbles. I dont have a drilled tank so I have pvc coming over the top of the tank for the return. Good luck on getting rid of the ICH.

Aquarist007 · 07/16/2008, 09:30 PM

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Originally posted by newbie-to-reef
Thanks capn, I was actually looking at that thread right now and we were discussing how we needed to deal with the issue since copper is a no-no in reef tanks.

glad to help--have you any other fish in the tank?

newbie-to-reef · 07/17/2008, 06:53 AM

Just a small green chromis and I will move him also to make sure my Display tank gets clean. Next time I will look at the other fish in the lfs tank closely before I buy anything. I guess thats what I get for acting like a kid in a candy store. Again, thank you for all of your help.

tmz · 07/17/2008, 10:59 AM

I thik your skimmer may be pushing the air bubbles dia it back until you no longer see bubbles coming out wtihteh outflow.

As for the fish, looks like ich in the picture but I'm not certain. If it is my preference is cupramine copper treatment in qt,preceded by a formalin bath.

07/15/2008, 08:21 PM	#1
newbie-to-reef Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 54	Ich or air? I have a small 30 gal tank with lots of water flow and plenty of aeration. I don't know if this is really a good thing or a bad thing. I have a venturi style skimmer that does surface skimming, but I don't know if it is really doing a good job since there are so many bubbles on the surface, there are also bubbles stuck to some of my rock and some of my weird little anemones. Now the concern is there are also bubbles stuck to my coral beauty. I have looked at some pics or fish with ich, but I don't really know if that is what it is. What do you think?

07/15/2008, 08:22 PM	#2
newbie-to-reef Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 54	sorry here is the pic

07/15/2008, 08:35 PM	#3
Allanira Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: New Mexico Posts: 293	Thats air bubbles. I have them all over my freshwater aquarium cause of HOB filters. They push the air under the surface of the water. Plus you wont get ich on corals. Just on fish. I hve found that out. I would make a sump under the aquariun and get rid of the HOBs cause they can kill your corals. If air gets trapped under them they can get burned and die. Good luck __________________ "Why me?" Because I think God has a sense of humor. Current Tank Info: 55 gal fresh, and 55 gal salt with a 55 gallon sump 75 lb LR, live sand, 2 koralia 3s, 2 koralia 2s, 2 maroon clown, 1 green chromis, 1 firefish, 1 starry blenny, 2 red legged hermit crabs, 2 turbo snails, 1 cleaner shrimp

07/16/2008, 07:15 PM	#6
newbie-to-reef Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 54	Here is the camera shy coral beauty

07/16/2008, 07:43 PM	#7
Aquarist007 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Hamilton, Canada Posts: 28,240 Blog Entries: 1	That coral beauty does have ich--I would quarantine as soon as possible and hyposalinate it. There are instructions on my logbook thread for doing both http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...readid=1424845 __________________ I prefer my substrates stirred but not shaken Current Tank Info: 150gal long mixed reef, 90gal sump, 60 gal refugium with 200 lbs live rock

07/16/2008, 01:55 AM	#5
maikoa02 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: RSM Posts: 456	Where is the pic of the fish?

07/16/2008, 07:58 PM	#8
1fishkeeper Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Spanaway, WA Posts: 1,101	dido capn good call there. __________________ "You can run but you will only die tired" U.S. Army Snipers

07/16/2008, 08:06 PM	#9
newbie-to-reef Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 54	Thanks capn, I was actually looking at that thread right now and we were discussing how we needed to deal with the issue since copper is a no-no in reef tanks.

07/16/2008, 08:32 PM	#10
Allanira Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: New Mexico Posts: 293	But the floating things in the tank are air bubbles. Trust me I see them everytime I look at my freshwater and until resently I saw them in my DT Saltwater (cant call it a reef yet lol). Do like Capn said hes great at problem solving on these things for us newbs. Have you thought about doing a sump with a refugium in the bottom of your stand? It works great on getting out a lot of the air bubbles. I dont have a drilled tank so I have pvc coming over the top of the tank for the return. Good luck on getting rid of the ICH. __________________ "Why me?" Because I think God has a sense of humor. Current Tank Info: 55 gal fresh, and 55 gal salt with a 55 gallon sump 75 lb LR, live sand, 2 koralia 3s, 2 koralia 2s, 2 maroon clown, 1 green chromis, 1 firefish, 1 starry blenny, 2 red legged hermit crabs, 2 turbo snails, 1 cleaner shrimp

07/17/2008, 06:53 AM	#12
newbie-to-reef Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 54	Just a small green chromis and I will move him also to make sure my Display tank gets clean. Next time I will look at the other fish in the lfs tank closely before I buy anything. I guess thats what I get for acting like a kid in a candy store. Again, thank you for all of your help.

07/17/2008, 10:59 AM	#13
tmz ReefKeeping Mag staff Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: West Seneca NY Posts: 27,691	I thik your skimmer may be pushing the air bubbles dia it back until you no longer see bubbles coming out wtihteh outflow. As for the fish, looks like ich in the picture but I'm not certain. If it is my preference is cupramine copper treatment in qt,preceded by a formalin bath. __________________ Tom Current Tank Info: Tank of the Month , November 2011 : 600gal integrated system: 3 display tanks (120 g, 90g, 89g),several frag/grow out tanks, macroalgae refugia, cryptic zones. 40+ fish, seahorses, sps,lps,leathers, zoanthidae and non photosynthetic corals.