bermuda rogue wave skimmer

apu701 · 09/16/2008, 09:52 PM

hello ... a quick background..

I have a 70 gallon FOWLR currently with a remora non pro version with mj1200...

i wanna upgrade my skimmer.. it is my only source of filtration.. believe me i tried to fit a sump underneath the builtin the wall setup but its impossible... a remora is not cutting it anymore...

after my research i have concluded that i want either the deltec mce600 or the bermuda rogue wave skimmer. (used ofcourse)

i have heard the bermuda rogue is the king HOB right now.. even better than the deltec... but this is based on old threads... i cant get the search function to work all day!!

what is the current opinion on the bermuda rogue HOB skimmer??

pics to back up pleasseee?????

apu701 · 09/17/2008, 09:20 AM

anyone have the rogue skimmer they are currently using?

GSMguy · 09/17/2008, 09:29 AM

best hang ons in order of performance

CnC 125h

Deltec mce600

Bermuda rogue wave

Octo with2pumps

Warner marine

GSMguy · 09/17/2008, 09:31 AM

I have the mce600 and its extremly reliable and works great

apu701 · 09/17/2008, 09:41 AM

i guess my only concern with the deltec is quality of the pumps.. its costs $130 to replace? since im buying used this is much more scary to me.. with the rogue, its a mag 5 pump.. so its much less and i can buy it used..

can i use a different pump with the deltec in case that one from the factory breaks??

jmart55 · 09/17/2008, 09:47 AM

I've used the Octo 100F and have loved it. If you can wait two new models should be out any day. the 300F with 2 pumps and the 800 with a sicce pump.

GSMguy · 09/17/2008, 09:54 AM

I have not even cleaned my mce600 in the last year the pumps work great and margins customer service is great the pump has a 2 year warranty from deltec

The mag5 will be hanging in your tank making the tank louder and seeing the pump is distracting.

moondoggy4 · 09/17/2008, 11:26 PM

Without a sump you will need a skimmer that can process as much water as possible and also have great circulation in the tank. I know because I have a 33 gallon without a sump and it is a pain without a great skimmer.

VengefulNemesis · 09/18/2008, 09:54 PM

You could look for an external skimmer and place it next to the tank. I have a 75 with the Octo 100 on it, and just picked up a used Bermuda 3c. I am building a cabinet to mount to the wall and put the skimmer in there, plus most good performing hob's are out of my dollar range.

lockekeyy · 09/29/2008, 11:46 AM

I have a Bermuda Rouge Wave PS paired up with a mag 5 and it works great! It pulls out about a cup or more of dark skimmate in about a day. Real quiet too.

hairyman1 · 11/10/2008, 11:51 PM

Yeah the rogue is versatile bacause you can choose your pump. any pump at 500 to 700 gph will due very well. MCE 600 is nice too. I don't understand the cnc thang since it's very new, and only custom made to order and I've never heard from any one who has run it honestly past a normal skimmer break in time. Putting it at the top of any list is gross misrepresentation until it has proved itself.

09/16/2008, 09:52 PM	#1
apu701 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Bellmore, NY Posts: 98	bermuda rogue wave skimmer hello ... a quick background.. I have a 70 gallon FOWLR currently with a remora non pro version with mj1200... i wanna upgrade my skimmer.. it is my only source of filtration.. believe me i tried to fit a sump underneath the builtin the wall setup but its impossible... a remora is not cutting it anymore... after my research i have concluded that i want either the deltec mce600 or the bermuda rogue wave skimmer. (used ofcourse) i have heard the bermuda rogue is the king HOB right now.. even better than the deltec... but this is based on old threads... i cant get the search function to work all day!! what is the current opinion on the bermuda rogue HOB skimmer?? pics to back up pleasseee????? Last edited by apu701; 09/16/2008 at 10:05 PM.

09/17/2008, 09:29 AM	#3
GSMguy Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Northern New Mexico Posts: 17,420	best hang ons in order of performance CnC 125h Deltec mce600 Bermuda rogue wave Octo with2pumps Warner marine __________________ Nick. Conehead. Shallow Reef club. Current Tank Info: 48"x27"x14" Envision Acrylic rimless, 6x39w ATi Sunpower, Custom ATB Deluxe Skimmer, 4x tunze nano stream,ATB flowstar 1500, ACJR, Tunze osmolator.

09/17/2008, 09:31 AM	#4
GSMguy Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Northern New Mexico Posts: 17,420	I have the mce600 and its extremly reliable and works great __________________ Nick. Conehead. Shallow Reef club. Current Tank Info: 48"x27"x14" Envision Acrylic rimless, 6x39w ATi Sunpower, Custom ATB Deluxe Skimmer, 4x tunze nano stream,ATB flowstar 1500, ACJR, Tunze osmolator.

09/17/2008, 09:47 AM	#6
jmart55 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Illisconsin Posts: 172	I've used the Octo 100F and have loved it. If you can wait two new models should be out any day. the 300F with 2 pumps and the 800 with a sicce pump. __________________ "Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants to see us happy." -Benjamin Franklin Current Tank Info: 125reef in progress, a few cichlid tanks

09/17/2008, 09:54 AM	#7
GSMguy Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Northern New Mexico Posts: 17,420	I have not even cleaned my mce600 in the last year the pumps work great and margins customer service is great the pump has a 2 year warranty from deltec The mag5 will be hanging in your tank making the tank louder and seeing the pump is distracting. __________________ Nick. Conehead. Shallow Reef club. Current Tank Info: 48"x27"x14" Envision Acrylic rimless, 6x39w ATi Sunpower, Custom ATB Deluxe Skimmer, 4x tunze nano stream,ATB flowstar 1500, ACJR, Tunze osmolator.

09/17/2008, 09:20 AM	#2
apu701 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Bellmore, NY Posts: 98	anyone have the rogue skimmer they are currently using?

09/17/2008, 09:41 AM	#5
apu701 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Bellmore, NY Posts: 98	i guess my only concern with the deltec is quality of the pumps.. its costs $130 to replace? since im buying used this is much more scary to me.. with the rogue, its a mag 5 pump.. so its much less and i can buy it used.. can i use a different pump with the deltec in case that one from the factory breaks??

09/17/2008, 11:26 PM	#8
moondoggy4 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: menifee So cal Posts: 11,042	Without a sump you will need a skimmer that can process as much water as possible and also have great circulation in the tank. I know because I have a 33 gallon without a sump and it is a pain without a great skimmer.

09/18/2008, 09:54 PM	#9
VengefulNemesis Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Port Richey, Florida Posts: 259	You could look for an external skimmer and place it next to the tank. I have a 75 with the Octo 100 on it, and just picked up a used Bermuda 3c. I am building a cabinet to mount to the wall and put the skimmer in there, plus most good performing hob's are out of my dollar range. __________________ I'd rather be happy, than right anyday-Slarti Bartfast Current Tank Info: 75gal reef, Wavepoint T5, Eshopps PSK-150

09/29/2008, 11:46 AM	#10
lockekeyy Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Peoria, AZ Posts: 1,027	I have a Bermuda Rouge Wave PS paired up with a mag 5 and it works great! It pulls out about a cup or more of dark skimmate in about a day. Real quiet too. __________________ I attribute the little I know to my not having been ashamed to ask for information - John Locke

11/10/2008, 11:51 PM	#11
hairyman1 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Illinois Posts: 271	Yeah the rogue is versatile bacause you can choose your pump. any pump at 500 to 700 gph will due very well. MCE 600 is nice too. I don't understand the cnc thang since it's very new, and only custom made to order and I've never heard from any one who has run it honestly past a normal skimmer break in time. Putting it at the top of any list is gross misrepresentation until it has proved itself.