moon lights?

da1jewfish · 09/24/2008, 10:20 PM

Underwater in the ocean does the moon create a white or blue light? I'm trying to re-create that as best as possible.

which color is best to use?

Thanks in advance yall

weluvfish54 · 09/24/2008, 10:25 PM

i def like the white better

da1jewfish · 09/25/2008, 06:43 AM

bump

masonicman · 09/25/2008, 06:48 AM

I've had both and I prefer the blue.

crvz · 09/25/2008, 11:16 AM

I like the blue, but a soft white LED is probably more realistic to the moon's reflection.

Roy G. Biv · 09/25/2008, 11:20 AM

I like blue also.. If possible buy the wide angle ones, looks more natural than spotlights in the water.

Husky_1 · 09/25/2008, 12:22 PM

Seems to be the moon shines a little yellow, but that is just what I see

BuddhaKiss · 09/25/2008, 04:10 PM

think it all depends on the type of look you're going for. the blue gives a more deep reef kinda look (I have blue). I've been thinking about trying white though. Would imagine it would give a shallow reef or lagoon effect.

pledosophy · 09/25/2008, 04:33 PM

I like the blue better then the white IME as well.

da1jewfish · 09/25/2008, 07:12 PM

thanks for all the replies. I am actually trying to find what color light the moon displays underwater, blue or white?

masonicman · 09/26/2008, 06:12 AM

MoonlightThe moon faithfully reflects the solar spectrum, so there is no change in the spectrum of light emanating from the moon. The intensity of solar radiation is about 500W/m2 while the intensity of full moon is about 1mW/m2 (1 milli Watt). Thus the intensity of a full moon is 0.5 Million times less that that of noon sunlight. Since the spectrum is the same as sunlight, the ocean waters will have the same diffuse attenuation coefficient for moonlight as sunlight. So even though the moon has the same spectrum of light as the sun the objects illuminated by moonlight lack color, primarily due to the low intensity of light and how the human eye responds at low light.
The reef aquarium industry and hobby has taken to using blue LED's to simulate moonlight. Cleary this is very different from natural moonlight.

Husky_1 · 09/26/2008, 07:37 AM

I still go back to the yellowish color (some would say a warm white), which too me directly relates tto Masonic's point.

musclereefer · 09/26/2008, 07:42 AM

I would ask anyone who does night diving on a reef. I found a website somewhere that said what the intensity and spectrum was of moonlight underwater. Try googleing it.

gookster · 09/27/2008, 01:19 AM

white i feel has a more clean look. leave hte blue look for the actinic only morning

scapes · 09/27/2008, 06:17 AM

I read somewhere on here that someone had tried using those red moonlights. I thought it sounded cool, and bought 5 for my 80g and they look pretty cool!! kinda offtopic, but they're cool nonetheless

09/24/2008, 10:20 PM	#1
da1jewfish Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: West Palm, FL Posts: 990	moon lights? Underwater in the ocean does the moon create a white or blue light? I'm trying to re-create that as best as possible. which color is best to use? Thanks in advance yall

09/25/2008, 06:48 AM	#4
masonicman Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: NJ Posts: 1,313	I've had both and I prefer the blue. __________________ It is better to ask for forgiveness then to ask for permission.......... Current Tank Info: 75 gal mixed reef, 216w LED, Remora Pro skimmer, HOB fuge, 400w htr, ATO RO/DI, 90lbs LR and 1" SB.

09/25/2008, 11:16 AM	#5
crvz Team RC Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: houstonia Posts: 7,989	I like the blue, but a soft white LED is probably more realistic to the moon's reflection. __________________ -Chris- You don't win friends with salad. "Look! They're trying to learn for free!" ... "Use your phony guns as clubs!" Current Tank Info: rectangluar? wet?

09/25/2008, 12:22 PM	#7
Husky_1 Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: South FL Posts: 1,541	Seems to be the moon shines a little yellow, but that is just what I see __________________ Out of the hobby, but thinking of rejoining Current Tank Info: 92 Reef, 10 Reef

09/25/2008, 04:33 PM	#9
pledosophy Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Beaverton Posts: 5,290	I like the blue better then the white IME as well. __________________ 120g mixed reef 90g QT

09/24/2008, 10:25 PM	#2
weluvfish54 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: inland empire Posts: 771	i def like the white better

09/25/2008, 06:43 AM	#3
da1jewfish Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: West Palm, FL Posts: 990	bump

09/25/2008, 11:20 AM	#6
Roy G. Biv Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: New Jersey Posts: 3,646	I like blue also.. If possible buy the wide angle ones, looks more natural than spotlights in the water.

09/25/2008, 04:10 PM	#8
BuddhaKiss Registered Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Northern Va Posts: 1,068	think it all depends on the type of look you're going for. the blue gives a more deep reef kinda look (I have blue). I've been thinking about trying white though. Would imagine it would give a shallow reef or lagoon effect.

09/25/2008, 07:12 PM	#10
da1jewfish Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: West Palm, FL Posts: 990	thanks for all the replies. I am actually trying to find what color light the moon displays underwater, blue or white?

09/26/2008, 06:12 AM	#11
masonicman Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: NJ Posts: 1,313	MoonlightThe moon faithfully reflects the solar spectrum, so there is no change in the spectrum of light emanating from the moon. The intensity of solar radiation is about 500W/m2 while the intensity of full moon is about 1mW/m2 (1 milli Watt). Thus the intensity of a full moon is 0.5 Million times less that that of noon sunlight. Since the spectrum is the same as sunlight, the ocean waters will have the same diffuse attenuation coefficient for moonlight as sunlight. So even though the moon has the same spectrum of light as the sun the objects illuminated by moonlight lack color, primarily due to the low intensity of light and how the human eye responds at low light. The reef aquarium industry and hobby has taken to using blue LED's to simulate moonlight. Cleary this is very different from natural moonlight. __________________ It is better to ask for forgiveness then to ask for permission.......... Current Tank Info: 75 gal mixed reef, 216w LED, Remora Pro skimmer, HOB fuge, 400w htr, ATO RO/DI, 90lbs LR and 1" SB.

09/26/2008, 07:37 AM	#12
Husky_1 Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: South FL Posts: 1,541	I still go back to the yellowish color (some would say a warm white), which too me directly relates tto Masonic's point. __________________ Out of the hobby, but thinking of rejoining Current Tank Info: 92 Reef, 10 Reef

09/26/2008, 07:42 AM	#13
musclereefer Registered Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Orange Park, Fl Posts: 10	I would ask anyone who does night diving on a reef. I found a website somewhere that said what the intensity and spectrum was of moonlight underwater. Try googleing it.

09/27/2008, 01:19 AM	#14
gookster Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: DC Posts: 67	white i feel has a more clean look. leave hte blue look for the actinic only morning

09/27/2008, 06:17 AM	#15
scapes Registered Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Millbrook, AL Posts: 2,520	I read somewhere on here that someone had tried using those red moonlights. I thought it sounded cool, and bought 5 for my 80g and they look pretty cool!! kinda offtopic, but they're cool nonetheless