Goldrim Tang's... Who has them?

Vapour1ze · 12/08/2008, 02:55 AM

Got one the other day for $30 from my LFS seemed to like a beautiful fish and in excellent health. I trust the guy as I have bought from him from over a year,

Anyway heres what I'm wondering,

-Does yours scratch?
-Does yours hide?
-What size tank is yours in?
-Whats the best food that you've fed him
-Compared to other fish in the tank, hows he rate?

Thanks!

MMOORE0324 · 12/08/2008, 06:06 AM

Don't have one but would love to see some pics

LoyalConvict · 12/08/2008, 07:29 AM

Acanthurus nigricans.... powder brown tang...harder to keep in the aquarium as opposed to the acanthurus japonicus more pronounced white on the face.... or i'm a retard and i could be wrong

crvz · 12/08/2008, 08:24 AM

I'd be curious for a picture as well, as the two species are often confused with common names. It's a beautiful fish, not reported as terribly hardy, but if you've got a healthy specimen it should do well for you.

calvertbill · 12/08/2008, 08:47 AM

Great Fish, great price!

Your questions:
Hiding-Normal...I have 10 Tangs in a 450 and when I turn the lights on in the morning I've never seen a tang. Clown, copperband are out and about but all the Tangs are napping in the rock caves (which is a tight fit as some are 6-7").

Tank size- You may not like it, but everything you've already read is true. Tangs need room. They're very active and and exploration is their full-time job. Close them in and they get stressed. Except on a temporary basis I'd never put one in anything smaller than a 75.

Food- Think Green! My guys get algae sheets, Rod's food, a home-made food our local SMMAS whips up (Yumm), chopped brocolli, with mysis as an occasional treat. If you want to get a little lazy or if you're pressed for time, my guys will KILL for the large pellet (I didn't know they made two sizes until 6 months ago) Formula 2.

Rating- You're talking to a Tang junkie, man, so I'm rather prejudiced. When I was a kid I was only interested in Cichlids because they had the most personality (including occasional streaks of agression). Now I'm totally into Tangs.

They really establish a social structure. especially inter-species. Zebrasomas do better than most folk think as long as no one tries to break out of his slot in the social ladder. Then all Hell breaks loose. Paracanthurus and Acanthurus just plain don't trust each other, period, ever. It's like (since West Side Story is being revived) a Jets vs. Sharks thing. They may attend the same dance but could throw down at any moment.

Scratching????- Usually not a good sign in most fish except my guys will occasionally take a swipe at a rock (almost like they're attacking it with their surgeon's blades). If it's a more frequent thing, check for parasites.

Toddrtrex · 12/08/2008, 09:56 AM

I had one (( Acanthurus nigricans )) about 3 years ago. Was a great fish, and ate like a pig. I am sure I got lucky but, found mine very easy to keep.

However, I sold it when I moved because after having it for 2 years I realized that a 4 foot tank (( and even a 6 footer )) just wasn't big enough for it.

Here is a small picture of it in a holding tank waiting to be picked up.

calvertbill · 12/08/2008, 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Toddrtrex
I had one (( Acanthurus nigricans )) about 3 years ago. Was a great fish, and ate like a pig. I am sure I got lucky but, found mine very easy to keep.

However, I sold it when I moved because after having it for 2 years I realized that a 4 foot tank (( and even a 6 footer )) just wasn't big enough for it.

Here is a small picture of it in a holding tank waiting to be picked up.

Dude! You didn't tell me! I want him! LOL

But I think there's some confusion here! Your fish is an Acanthurus nigricans as you stated.

A Gold Rimmed is Acanthurus glaucopareius, different fish isn't it?

LobsterOfJustice · 12/08/2008, 10:52 AM

Scratching does not sound normal. Basically a indication of slight parasites, probably ich. Nothing to be too worried about, probably the equivalent of a runny nose being indicative of a cold. But just be aware of what it means.

crvz · 12/08/2008, 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by calvertbill
A Gold Rimmed is Acanthurus glaucopareius, different fish isn't it?

Nope, it appears A. nigricans was formerly known as the A. glaucopareius. That fish is different than the A. japonicus, however. Here's a bit of info.

http://www.wetwebmedia.com/GoldRimSs.htm

Vapour1ze · 12/08/2008, 02:48 PM

Sweet thanks guys, I like him a lot so far, I'll try to get some pics today if he comes out, and yea he takes the occasional swipe at a rock, but his body looks clean, I dont know if its from transport he was at LFS for 2 days before I got him so hes been moving around a lot.... Hopefully he gets over it and I don't have to QT!

calvertbill · 12/08/2008, 07:13 PM

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Originally posted by tehauthority
Hopefully he gets over it and I don't have to QT!

Sorry but that sounds backward. The time to QT is before he spreads anything to his tankmates, not after you discover he's sick!

Oh! Thanks to crvz for the link. It's a great article.

Vapour1ze · 12/08/2008, 09:56 PM

yea i know how it goes,,, thing is I have 2 fish in my tank its still early, its not likes hes infecting a whole community, im seeing some SMALL SMALL SMALL white spots but they are clearing up, hes scratching somewhat, but then again he might just be stressed....... I don't know if I should setup my 29g as a QT right now, and put him in there with hypo, and run copper or just stick it out for a little longer and see what happens, I've seen fish with ich and this tang is really gorgeous right now, ill post a pic later tonite....

Vapour1ze · 12/09/2008, 12:36 AM

yea i know how it goes,,, thing is I have 2 fish in my tank its still early, its not likes hes infecting a whole community, im seeing some SMALL SMALL SMALL white spots but they are clearing up, hes scratching somewhat, but then again he might just be stressed....... I don't know if I should setup my 29g as a QT right now, and put him in there with hypo, and run copper or just stick it out for a little longer and see what happens, I've seen fish with ich and this tang is really gorgeous right now, ill post a pic later tonite....

12/08/2008, 02:55 AM	#1
Vapour1ze I'm an Addict. Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Yorkville, IL Posts: 3,036	Goldrim Tang's... Who has them? Got one the other day for $30 from my LFS seemed to like a beautiful fish and in excellent health. I trust the guy as I have bought from him from over a year, Anyway heres what I'm wondering, -Does yours scratch? -Does yours hide? -What size tank is yours in? -Whats the best food that you've fed him -Compared to other fish in the tank, hows he rate? Thanks! __________________ 93 Reef \| 220 Reef \| Basement Fish Life Support Room \| Empty Savings Account

12/08/2008, 06:06 AM	#2
MMOORE0324 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Cape Coral, Florida Posts: 834	Don't have one but would love to see some pics __________________ -Matt- 50g Acrylic SPS http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2653554 Retired34g Solana SPS Reef

12/08/2008, 07:29 AM	#3
LoyalConvict Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 468	Acanthurus nigricans.... powder brown tang...harder to keep in the aquarium as opposed to the acanthurus japonicus more pronounced white on the face.... or i'm a retard and i could be wrong __________________ Contemplating sushifried I Have - Ichthyophobia, Hydrophobia, Hyalophobia, and Hippopotomonstrosesquippedaliophobia Current Tank Info: 90 Reef, 55 fuge - 75 FOWLR 30 fuge

12/08/2008, 08:24 AM	#4
crvz Team RC Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: houstonia Posts: 7,989	I'd be curious for a picture as well, as the two species are often confused with common names. It's a beautiful fish, not reported as terribly hardy, but if you've got a healthy specimen it should do well for you. __________________ -Chris- You don't win friends with salad. "Look! They're trying to learn for free!" ... "Use your phony guns as clubs!" Current Tank Info: rectangluar? wet?

12/08/2008, 08:47 AM	#5
calvertbill Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Calvert County, Md. Posts: 122	Great Fish, great price! Your questions: Hiding-Normal...I have 10 Tangs in a 450 and when I turn the lights on in the morning I've never seen a tang. Clown, copperband are out and about but all the Tangs are napping in the rock caves (which is a tight fit as some are 6-7"). Tank size- You may not like it, but everything you've already read is true. Tangs need room. They're very active and and exploration is their full-time job. Close them in and they get stressed. Except on a temporary basis I'd never put one in anything smaller than a 75. Food- Think Green! My guys get algae sheets, Rod's food, a home-made food our local SMMAS whips up (Yumm), chopped brocolli, with mysis as an occasional treat. If you want to get a little lazy or if you're pressed for time, my guys will KILL for the large pellet (I didn't know they made two sizes until 6 months ago) Formula 2. Rating- You're talking to a Tang junkie, man, so I'm rather prejudiced. When I was a kid I was only interested in Cichlids because they had the most personality (including occasional streaks of agression). Now I'm totally into Tangs. They really establish a social structure. especially inter-species. Zebrasomas do better than most folk think as long as no one tries to break out of his slot in the social ladder. Then all Hell breaks loose. Paracanthurus and Acanthurus just plain don't trust each other, period, ever. It's like (since West Side Story is being revived) a Jets vs. Sharks thing. They may attend the same dance but could throw down at any moment. Scratching????- Usually not a good sign in most fish except my guys will occasionally take a swipe at a rock (almost like they're attacking it with their surgeon's blades). If it's a more frequent thing, check for parasites. __________________ 90 FOWLR & a few 'shrooms 450/625 Reef with 3 Blue Hippos 4-6", 1 Yellow Tang 4", 1 Scopas 4", 1 Mata Tang 12", 2 1" Black Ocellaris, 1 Sailfin 5", 1 Purple Tang 3" Current Tank Info: 55, 90, 450/625, 14 Nano

12/08/2008, 09:56 AM	#6
Toddrtrex Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Carol Stream, IL Posts: 23,162	I had one (( Acanthurus nigricans )) about 3 years ago. Was a great fish, and ate like a pig. I am sure I got lucky but, found mine very easy to keep. However, I sold it when I moved because after having it for 2 years I realized that a 4 foot tank (( and even a 6 footer )) just wasn't big enough for it. Here is a small picture of it in a holding tank waiting to be picked up. __________________ Click my name and then "visit toddrtrex's homepage" for tank pictures Current Tank Info: 210g reef and 65g reef

12/08/2008, 10:52 AM	#8
LobsterOfJustice Recovering Detritophobe Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Cary, NC Posts: 7,443	Scratching does not sound normal. Basically a indication of slight parasites, probably ich. Nothing to be too worried about, probably the equivalent of a runny nose being indicative of a cold. But just be aware of what it means. __________________ If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right. I remember when zoanthids were called things like "green" and "orange" and not "reverse gorilla nipple." Current Tank Info: 180g reef with all the bells and whistles

12/08/2008, 02:48 PM	#10
Vapour1ze I'm an Addict. Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Yorkville, IL Posts: 3,036	Sweet thanks guys, I like him a lot so far, I'll try to get some pics today if he comes out, and yea he takes the occasional swipe at a rock, but his body looks clean, I dont know if its from transport he was at LFS for 2 days before I got him so hes been moving around a lot.... Hopefully he gets over it and I don't have to QT! __________________ 93 Reef \| 220 Reef \| Basement Fish Life Support Room \| Empty Savings Account

12/08/2008, 09:56 PM	#12
Vapour1ze I'm an Addict. Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Yorkville, IL Posts: 3,036	yea i know how it goes,,, thing is I have 2 fish in my tank its still early, its not likes hes infecting a whole community, im seeing some SMALL SMALL SMALL white spots but they are clearing up, hes scratching somewhat, but then again he might just be stressed....... I don't know if I should setup my 29g as a QT right now, and put him in there with hypo, and run copper or just stick it out for a little longer and see what happens, I've seen fish with ich and this tang is really gorgeous right now, ill post a pic later tonite.... __________________ 93 Reef \| 220 Reef \| Basement Fish Life Support Room \| Empty Savings Account

12/09/2008, 12:36 AM	#13
Vapour1ze I'm an Addict. Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Yorkville, IL Posts: 3,036	yea i know how it goes,,, thing is I have 2 fish in my tank its still early, its not likes hes infecting a whole community, im seeing some SMALL SMALL SMALL white spots but they are clearing up, hes scratching somewhat, but then again he might just be stressed....... I don't know if I should setup my 29g as a QT right now, and put him in there with hypo, and run copper or just stick it out for a little longer and see what happens, I've seen fish with ich and this tang is really gorgeous right now, ill post a pic later tonite.... __________________ 93 Reef \| 220 Reef \| Basement Fish Life Support Room \| Empty Savings Account