New Cone Skimmer from Singapore < 300.00

mordibv · 12/21/2008, 08:01 AM

Someone else is about to bring a another cone skimmer to market ,
I just thought I'd share this from glassbox- designs.com .It is amazing how they can really imitate and get to market so fast . We all saw it coming . But in the end it's still not the real deal . So how it performs due to variations ? Who knows ? The only patent I saw seemed to be filed by KZ ? in 2007 and was approved this year .

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This is an article from glassbox -designs.com .

A new conical skimmer from Singapore has popped up in the Asian markets. Shown first is the smallest model, powered by an Aquabee 2000/1 NW. The foot print is only 7.5″ x 7.5″ with a total height of 20″. This would hit the sub 100g range nicely. Best of all the price is only $310 USD.

Here is the larger Eheim 1260 powered model with a footprint of 9.5″ x 9.5″ and a height of 24″. This model is also available with an AquaBee 5000. Price with Eheim: $450. I am told there is one model that is even largerâ€“ a 26″ cone powered by an Askoll pump.

I am not a fan of knock offs, but the compact design of these skimmers is very attractiveâ€¦ So is the price. There are no welds to be seen on the body, meaning a few more cone molds are floating around. It wonâ€™t be long until even more make their way to the U.S.

What is interesting here is the body is not a full cone. The KZ patent may present some problems or at least scare off importers. In the meantime a few more cone designs by other manufacturers are in the works. Expect to see some of them after new yearsâ€¦

tany · 12/21/2008, 08:05 AM

bubble pioneer skimmer
http://www.chuisui.com/viewthread.php?tid=10570

mordibv · 12/21/2008, 08:20 AM

Thanks Tany for showing the other model with more details . Is that a removable bubble plate ? Any info on who may bring it to the U.S. or is going to had on Ebay like the Bubble Magus or Magnus ?

tany · 12/21/2008, 08:26 AM

here another frm singapore

http://www.absolutereef.com/forums/i...0&#entry184119

here the video
http://s424.photobucket.com/albums/p...t=P1010154.flv

jman77 · 12/21/2008, 08:27 AM

interesting design .... they have both internal and external models of the skimmers which is a big plus !

24 inch tall Eheim powered cone at $450.00 - wow!

jman77 · 12/21/2008, 08:30 AM

tany ...first link doesn't work

but the video does...

Any videos of the Eheim or Askoll models ?

tany · 12/21/2008, 08:36 AM

the video is for skimz kone sk1. skimz avalible in two different model sk1 and sk2. skimz and bubble pioneer is two different skimmer

here the price for skimz
http://www.aquamarin.com.sg/products...productid=1169

mordibv · 12/21/2008, 08:50 AM

pm sent

tufacody · 12/21/2008, 09:28 AM

Wow! These all look like great skimmers, especially at the price!

Whyireef · 12/21/2008, 02:04 PM

A reasonably priced, well made, cone skimmer with an Aquabee 2000/1 needle-wheel or an Eheim 1260 NW....at a price not bordering on $1000? Rather, sub $400!!!

I usually don't like knock-offs, but in the case of skimmers, NONE of the elite/expensive companies were the original and the certainly use someone else's pump and a few features found on earlier models (needle wheel, becket, venturi, down-draft, etc.) so I'd have to say even a Bubble King, or ATB is a "knock-off" of some sort or another.

I'd also have to say we all like knock-offs that are very pricey (reference my Bubble King comment above), for some reason it is more palatable, BUT......some of these cheaper ones are using really nice pumps, quality acrylic, and fine craftsmanship. So, the question is, are more inexpensive knock-offs distasteful because they don't work, they break, have cheap pumps, or solely because of the price?

jman77 · 12/21/2008, 02:36 PM

WOW .... the skimz kone looks nice!!!!

Now ....who's importing these skimmers?

jman77 · 12/21/2008, 02:39 PM

I guess the K2 is 889.63 dollars with the current exchange rate ....

mordibv · 12/21/2008, 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jman77
I guess the K2 is 889.63 dollars with the current exchange rate ....

Yep so by the time it gets here with shipping . OUCH . The Pioneer is supposed to be the 300 for the small under 100 gallons and 450 dollar range skimmer with the ehiem pump . Some Malaysia site with a store call GV Marine Center is going to be carrying it .

jamesdawson · 12/22/2008, 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by tany
bubble pioneer skimmer
http://www.chuisui.com/viewthread.php?tid=10570

The actual bubbleplate (clear acrylic with the same perforations) on the one shown in this link looks exactly like the new Warner Marine skimmer's minus the WM VBT.

James

LunarDDS · 12/22/2008, 01:42 AM

Looks like a dead ko of a bk mini to me. I guess there are going to be more players in this thing soon. I wonder who is gonna slap their label on these and bring them to the states.

klubvibez · 12/22/2008, 01:55 AM

http://glassbox-design.com/2008/new-...rom-singapore/

SHOmuchFUN · 12/22/2008, 08:54 AM

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Originally posted by klubvibez
http://glassbox-design.com/2008/new-...rom-singapore/

I can't wait! I'm pawning off my Tunze 9010 to my mother-in-law when these come out

mordibv · 02/19/2011, 11:16 AM

I was looking for this thread .WOW The thread is over two years old . LOL. I cannot fathom how cool the universe is . . I am the proud new owner of a SKIMZ SK-201 .. Scheduled to be delivered Monday...

moondoggy4 · 02/19/2011, 12:21 PM

Felt like I was reading a old newspaper LOL Where did you get your skimmer from? I know that there will be a US importer from Canada but I believe that they are not to market yet. The confusing part of these skimmers is trying to figure out the sizing its hard to go my the manufactors sizing I do not want to overskim again. My replacement pump will be 200 bucks so I am thinking about getting a different skimmer and selling the body.

yeldarbj · 02/19/2011, 02:27 PM

AquariumSpecialty has them listed.

retz75 · 02/19/2011, 04:09 PM

Great looking skimmer.

USC-fan · 02/19/2011, 05:18 PM

Wish this cone fad dies before I need a new skimmer.

mordibv · 02/20/2011, 03:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moondoggy4

Felt like I was reading a old newspaper LOL Where did you get your skimmer from? I know that there will be a US importer from Canada but I believe that they are not to market yet. The confusing part of these skimmers is trying to figure out the sizing its hard to go my the manufactors sizing I do not want to overskim again. My replacement pump will be 200 bucks so I am thinking about getting a different skimmer and selling the body.

@ Moondoggy Yep . Aquarium Speciality hooked me up .It was the last one he had . He only got 3 in .I talked to Aqua Digital (NA distributor) for a friend who wants one.
They advised me to tell a buddy to wait until the SKIMZ online site launches hopefully at the end of the month. That way you get full support and the product is shipped @ US domestic rates . Yeah the sizing is way weird . I am putting this on a 70 cube lol . U can peruse the Canada reefers forum and a few stores sell the lower end models . 960 lph in a 21.5 inch tall cone rocks . Uses a Eden pump out of Italy . I thought it was a Sicce but Scott @ As gave me the 411 on the pump. These pumps are a good Laguna alternative .
WM has a new series coming out just like the SKIMZ but using WM bubble plate parts . It was supposed to be on the market already . Unsure what the hold up is with them .
So those are the options for now .

This is the Kone SK 201 model that is on it's way to me now

HTH

@USC- fan ... I doubt the cone craze is going by by anytime soon . They are playing with double bubble plates now on cones only .

moondoggy4 · 03/05/2011, 10:23 AM

Thanks Mordiby, looking forward to following your thread glade the dramas over with your skimmer. I did receive my pump yesterday so I will see if there are any improvements on my side.

mordibv · 03/05/2011, 10:34 AM

Hi Moonndoggy 4. I got the thread up . Check it out when u get a chance .

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh....php?t=1986514

12/21/2008, 08:01 AM	#1
mordibv Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Western Mass Posts: 1,499	New Cone Skimmer from Singapore < 300.00 Someone else is about to bring a another cone skimmer to market , I just thought I'd share this from glassbox- designs.com .It is amazing how they can really imitate and get to market so fast . We all saw it coming . But in the end it's still not the real deal . So how it performs due to variations ? Who knows ? The only patent I saw seemed to be filed by KZ ? in 2007 and was approved this year . [IMG][/IMG] This is an article from glassbox -designs.com . A new conical skimmer from Singapore has popped up in the Asian markets. Shown first is the smallest model, powered by an Aquabee 2000/1 NW. The foot print is only 7.5″ x 7.5″ with a total height of 20″. This would hit the sub 100g range nicely. Best of all the price is only $310 USD. Here is the larger Eheim 1260 powered model with a footprint of 9.5″ x 9.5″ and a height of 24″. This model is also available with an AquaBee 5000. Price with Eheim: $450. I am told there is one model that is even largerâ€“ a 26″ cone powered by an Askoll pump. I am not a fan of knock offs, but the compact design of these skimmers is very attractiveâ€¦ So is the price. There are no welds to be seen on the body, meaning a few more cone molds are floating around. It wonâ€™t be long until even more make their way to the U.S. What is interesting here is the body is not a full cone. The KZ patent may present some problems or at least scare off importers. In the meantime a few more cone designs by other manufacturers are in the works. Expect to see some of them after new yearsâ€¦ Last edited by mordibv; 12/21/2008 at 09:01 AM.

12/21/2008, 08:05 AM	#2
tany Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: malaysia Posts: 85	bubble pioneer skimmer http://www.chuisui.com/viewthread.php?tid=10570 __________________ tan

12/21/2008, 08:20 AM	#3
mordibv Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Western Mass Posts: 1,499	Thanks Tany for showing the other model with more details . Is that a removable bubble plate ? Any info on who may bring it to the U.S. or is going to had on Ebay like the Bubble Magus or Magnus ? __________________ It's hard to take advice from those who do not show the fruits of their labor . Current Tank Info: No tank ATM

12/21/2008, 08:26 AM	#4
tany Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: malaysia Posts: 85	here another frm singapore http://www.absolutereef.com/forums/i...0&#entry184119 here the video http://s424.photobucket.com/albums/p...t=P1010154.flv __________________ tan

12/21/2008, 08:36 AM	#7
tany Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: malaysia Posts: 85	the video is for skimz kone sk1. skimz avalible in two different model sk1 and sk2. skimz and bubble pioneer is two different skimmer here the price for skimz http://www.aquamarin.com.sg/products...productid=1169 __________________ tan

12/21/2008, 08:27 AM	#5
jman77 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: West Palm Beach, Florida Posts: 2,391	interesting design .... they have both internal and external models of the skimmers which is a big plus ! 24 inch tall Eheim powered cone at $450.00 - wow!

12/21/2008, 08:30 AM	#6
jman77 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: West Palm Beach, Florida Posts: 2,391	tany ...first link doesn't work but the video does... Any videos of the Eheim or Askoll models ?

12/21/2008, 08:50 AM	#8
mordibv Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Western Mass Posts: 1,499	pm sent

12/21/2008, 09:28 AM	#9
tufacody Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,890	Wow! These all look like great skimmers, especially at the price!

12/21/2008, 02:04 PM	#10
Whyireef Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Washington DC Posts: 54	A reasonably priced, well made, cone skimmer with an Aquabee 2000/1 needle-wheel or an Eheim 1260 NW....at a price not bordering on $1000? Rather, sub $400!!! I usually don't like knock-offs, but in the case of skimmers, NONE of the elite/expensive companies were the original and the certainly use someone else's pump and a few features found on earlier models (needle wheel, becket, venturi, down-draft, etc.) so I'd have to say even a Bubble King, or ATB is a "knock-off" of some sort or another. I'd also have to say we all like knock-offs that are very pricey (reference my Bubble King comment above), for some reason it is more palatable, BUT......some of these cheaper ones are using really nice pumps, quality acrylic, and fine craftsmanship. So, the question is, are more inexpensive knock-offs distasteful because they don't work, they break, have cheap pumps, or solely because of the price?

12/21/2008, 02:36 PM	#11
jman77 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: West Palm Beach, Florida Posts: 2,391	WOW .... the skimz kone looks nice!!!! Now ....who's importing these skimmers?

12/21/2008, 02:39 PM	#12
jman77 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: West Palm Beach, Florida Posts: 2,391	I guess the K2 is 889.63 dollars with the current exchange rate ....

12/22/2008, 01:42 AM	#15
LunarDDS Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Houston Posts: 334	Looks like a dead ko of a bk mini to me. I guess there are going to be more players in this thing soon. I wonder who is gonna slap their label on these and bring them to the states.

12/22/2008, 01:55 AM	#16
klubvibez Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 27	http://glassbox-design.com/2008/new-...rom-singapore/

02/19/2011, 11:16 AM	#18
mordibv Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Western Mass Posts: 1,499	I was looking for this thread .WOW The thread is over two years old . LOL. I cannot fathom how cool the universe is . . I am the proud new owner of a SKIMZ SK-201 .. Scheduled to be delivered Monday... __________________ It's hard to take advice from those who do not show the fruits of their labor . Current Tank Info: No tank ATM

02/19/2011, 12:21 PM	#19
moondoggy4 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: menifee So cal Posts: 11,042	Felt like I was reading a old newspaper LOL Where did you get your skimmer from? I know that there will be a US importer from Canada but I believe that they are not to market yet. The confusing part of these skimmers is trying to figure out the sizing its hard to go my the manufactors sizing I do not want to overskim again. My replacement pump will be 200 bucks so I am thinking about getting a different skimmer and selling the body.

02/19/2011, 02:27 PM	#20
yeldarbj Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 1,295	AquariumSpecialty has them listed.

02/19/2011, 04:09 PM	#21
retz75 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Auburn, MI Posts: 50	Great looking skimmer.

02/19/2011, 05:18 PM	#22
USC-fan Premium Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 3,626	Wish this cone fad dies before I need a new skimmer.

03/05/2011, 10:23 AM	#24
moondoggy4 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: menifee So cal Posts: 11,042	Thanks Mordiby, looking forward to following your thread glade the dramas over with your skimmer. I did receive my pump yesterday so I will see if there are any improvements on my side.

03/05/2011, 10:34 AM	#25
mordibv Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Western Mass Posts: 1,499	Hi Moonndoggy 4. I got the thread up . Check it out when u get a chance . http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh....php?t=1986514 __________________ It's hard to take advice from those who do not show the fruits of their labor . Current Tank Info: No tank ATM