Live Rock to Canada

calli · 01/02/2009, 11:16 AM

Who ships live rock to Canada?

or......

Who has good prices in the Detroit to Port Huron Area? I can drive there..

kurquhart1 · 01/02/2009, 11:56 AM

im trying to figure that out too. i cant find any websites for corals or fish either for online shopping

calli · 01/02/2009, 12:00 PM

well I don't think I would order fish online .. I would rather go to the store....

Your in Hamilton eh... Big Als just had a HUGE sale over the boxing week...

Blown76mav · 01/02/2009, 12:06 PM

If your going to go to Detroit, there is a great place in Toledo, tropical reef, that has great live rock, already cured. 6.99/lb Put it in a container of water and take it home with little or no cycle. Toledo is just a little south of Detroit.

calli · 01/02/2009, 12:07 PM

6.99/lb I can get that here in town already cured... Going to check for a website.

sevendigitcake · 01/02/2009, 12:13 PM

you can try premium aquatics or JL aquatics. I haven't checked the prices but it should probably be cheaper than 6.99/lb. but i dont how the prices will change with shipping added on.

calli · 01/02/2009, 12:16 PM

WOW JL is 7.99 a lb... I think I am just going to pay the 5 bucks here in London, for Fiji.

jenjen · 01/02/2009, 12:16 PM

Not sure I'd pay to have live rock shipped if you can get a reasonable price locally, but J&L Aquatics is a Canadian site that you can order from online. Their product and service is excellent.

www.jlaquatics.com

Blown76mav · 01/02/2009, 12:18 PM

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Originally posted by calli
6.99/lb I can get that here in town already cured... Going to check for a website.

Then I would get that. Most shops local to me sell cured for over 10.99/lb so I thought 6.99/lb was a good deal. That and even though they say theirs is cured it isn't covered in coraline alage like this stuff is.

calli · 01/02/2009, 12:22 PM

well one place here sells it for about $6.99 the other place is $5.48.

The 6.99 is cured and the 5.48 is Walt Smith not cured.

nikon187 · 01/02/2009, 01:19 PM

don't think you are going to find a better deal here in canada unless you pick it up off a local reefer. 5-$7 isn't bad for cured rock

calli · 01/02/2009, 01:21 PM

I think I am just going to get the 5.48/lb box of Walt Smith.

MalHavoc · 01/02/2009, 01:37 PM

You can't bring rock across the border yourself. You need a CITES permit. It's not worth the risk or the hassle, and the permits aren't cheap.

J&L Aquatics sells nice rock.

Aquarist007 · 01/02/2009, 02:46 PM

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Originally posted by kurquhart1
im trying to figure that out too. i cant find any websites for corals or fish either for online shopping

welcome Hamiltonian
you can get super rock deals from finding someone that is selling there rock
look on these sites--they are local
www.reefescape.ca

www.aquariumpros.ca

For outstanding corals visit Ryans where's the reef in Mississauga
or Canadian fish breeders in Scarborough or Alternate Aquariums in Burlington(they get a shipment in every Friday)

The other alternative is to go in with a couple of guys and have live stock shipped from BC--it is mailed directly to Mount Hope airport and the shipping is 40 bucks(split a few ways it is a great deal)

Aquarist007 · 01/02/2009, 02:49 PM

I just picked up these three on boxing day from Where's the Reef--worked out to 25 bucks a piece

Aquarist007 · 01/02/2009, 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MalHavoc
You can't bring rock across the border yourself. You need a CITES permit. It's not worth the risk or the hassle, and the permits aren't cheap.

J&L Aquatics sells nice rock.

Good point and worth mentioning again
You can bring coral back but you have to detach it from the rock its own
Inverts, fish, macro algae all okay----but not live rock

I can never figure this one out either---ahh Canadian customs

stricknine · 01/02/2009, 03:25 PM

I had luck from RiverWonders for tonga fusion. The live rock here isnt nothing to talk about, and at $10/lb. I had to find something else. At the end of all the fees it worked out to approx $4.50/lb. Heres a few pics, I was very impressed;

Aquarist007 · 01/02/2009, 03:26 PM

you are correct --very impressive rock

MalHavoc · 01/02/2009, 04:03 PM

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Originally posted by capn_hylinur
Good point and worth mentioning again
You can bring coral back but you have to detach it from the rock its own
Inverts, fish, macro algae all okay----but not live rock

I can never figure this one out either---ahh Canadian customs

It's not so much that it has to be detached, it has to be *obviously* propagated in captivity. This usually means a very non-natural base for the coral frag, like a piece of ceramic tile. As I said, it's not worth it -- the customs person will not really care that "this particular Acropora coral is propagated in captivity". They will see the name "Acropora sp." on the list under "Order Scleractinia" and deny you entry with it, confiscate it, and possibly take other things too.

Aquarist007 · 01/02/2009, 05:28 PM

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Originally posted by MalHavoc
It's not so much that it has to be detached, it has to be *obviously* propagated in captivity. This usually means a very non-natural base for the coral frag, like a piece of ceramic tile. As I said, it's not worth it -- the customs person will not really care that "this particular Acropora coral is propagated in captivity". They will see the name "Acropora sp." on the list under "Order Scleractinia" and deny you entry with it, confiscate it, and possibly take other things too.

what's the big deal with importing live rock MalHavoc?

MalHavoc · 01/02/2009, 06:18 PM

Depends on where it's collected from. In many areas of the world, collection off of a reef is banned. You're only allowed storm rubble, or aquacultured stuff.

01/02/2009, 11:16 AM	#1
calli Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: London, Ontario Posts: 512	Live Rock to Canada Who ships live rock to Canada? or...... Who has good prices in the Detroit to Port Huron Area? I can drive there..

01/02/2009, 12:16 PM	#8
jenjen Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Langley BC, Canada Posts: 1,710	Not sure I'd pay to have live rock shipped if you can get a reasonable price locally, but J&L Aquatics is a Canadian site that you can order from online. Their product and service is excellent. www.jlaquatics.com __________________ "Challenges forge the greatness in you" Current Tank Info: 180gal softy reef (Apr '09)

01/02/2009, 01:19 PM	#11
nikon187 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Edmonton Alberta Posts: 4,717	don't think you are going to find a better deal here in canada unless you pick it up off a local reefer. 5-$7 isn't bad for cured rock __________________ ----------------- Current Tanks: New 210 custom 84 x 24 x 24, 60g sump, SWC 250 extreme with bubble blaster 5000, 2 vortech mp40, 2 vortech mp10, 12 T5, Water blaster 5000, warner marine bio pellets, 60g clownfish cube, red carpet anemone with a 25g sump,SRO octopus 1000sss, 250w radium, lumenarc large.

01/02/2009, 01:37 PM	#13
MalHavoc Infinitely Prolonged Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 10,850	You can't bring rock across the border yourself. You need a CITES permit. It's not worth the risk or the hassle, and the permits aren't cheap. J&L Aquatics sells nice rock. __________________ Jason "Empathy, he once had decided, must be limited to herbivores or anyhow omnivores who could depart from a meat diet. Because, ultimately, the empathic gift blurred the boundaries between hunter and victim, between the successful and the defeated." -- Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?, Philip K Dick

01/02/2009, 02:49 PM	#15
Aquarist007 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Hamilton, Canada Posts: 28,240 Blog Entries: 1	I just picked up these three on boxing day from Where's the Reef--worked out to 25 bucks a piece __________________ I prefer my substrates stirred but not shaken Current Tank Info: 150gal long mixed reef, 90gal sump, 60 gal refugium with 200 lbs live rock

01/02/2009, 11:56 AM	#2
kurquhart1 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: hamilton ontario canada Posts: 141	im trying to figure that out too. i cant find any websites for corals or fish either for online shopping

01/02/2009, 12:00 PM	#3
calli Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: London, Ontario Posts: 512	well I don't think I would order fish online .. I would rather go to the store.... Your in Hamilton eh... Big Als just had a HUGE sale over the boxing week...

01/02/2009, 12:06 PM	#4
Blown76mav Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Lima, Oh Posts: 500	If your going to go to Detroit, there is a great place in Toledo, tropical reef, that has great live rock, already cured. 6.99/lb Put it in a container of water and take it home with little or no cycle. Toledo is just a little south of Detroit.

01/02/2009, 12:07 PM	#5
calli Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: London, Ontario Posts: 512	6.99/lb I can get that here in town already cured... Going to check for a website.

01/02/2009, 12:13 PM	#6
sevendigitcake Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 452	you can try premium aquatics or JL aquatics. I haven't checked the prices but it should probably be cheaper than 6.99/lb. but i dont how the prices will change with shipping added on.

01/02/2009, 12:22 PM	#10
calli Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: London, Ontario Posts: 512	well one place here sells it for about $6.99 the other place is $5.48. The 6.99 is cured and the 5.48 is Walt Smith not cured.

01/02/2009, 01:21 PM	#12
calli Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: London, Ontario Posts: 512	I think I am just going to get the 5.48/lb box of Walt Smith.

01/02/2009, 03:25 PM	#17
stricknine Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Up North Posts: 989	I had luck from RiverWonders for tonga fusion. The live rock here isnt nothing to talk about, and at $10/lb. I had to find something else. At the end of all the fees it worked out to approx $4.50/lb. Heres a few pics, I was very impressed;

01/02/2009, 03:26 PM	#18
Aquarist007 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Hamilton, Canada Posts: 28,240 Blog Entries: 1	you are correct --very impressive rock __________________ I prefer my substrates stirred but not shaken Current Tank Info: 150gal long mixed reef, 90gal sump, 60 gal refugium with 200 lbs live rock

01/02/2009, 06:18 PM	#21
MalHavoc Infinitely Prolonged Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 10,850	Depends on where it's collected from. In many areas of the world, collection off of a reef is banned. You're only allowed storm rubble, or aquacultured stuff. __________________ Jason "Empathy, he once had decided, must be limited to herbivores or anyhow omnivores who could depart from a meat diet. Because, ultimately, the empathic gift blurred the boundaries between hunter and victim, between the successful and the defeated." -- Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?, Philip K Dick