Your sump room.

[hamiltonguy]

Post all your sump room pics here . Just a picture of the plumbing showing the connection between your sump/refuge. I think it'll help a lot of people, like me, who are thinking of setting a bigger tank and give them ideas on how to plumb their tanks

Labels or anything aren't REQUIRED but if you want you can always label your pipes and direction of flow. I don't think anyone will complain :P.

Also, if you wish to explain in words how your system works, you're welcome to do so.

Thanks guys.

[kurquhart1]

i agree i think its a great idea.

hamilton guy finally another 1 from the same city as me....

[hamiltonguy]

damn yeah, finally. I didn't think there many reefers around my area. For anything good I'd have to go to T.O. or Vaughn. But the Big Al's in Oakville and Stoney Creek aren't bad.

I hope this thread works well I think it might prevent a lot of people from making beginners mistakes and resulting in tank crashes and dead livestock (considering the conditions the world's reefs are in, that'd be real helpful).


Btw, wherebouts in Hamilton?

[Playa-1]

Here's some drawings of my sump/fuge that might help.

[stpauli914]

Mine is IDENTICAL to playa's

[BSchaible]

so the drain pipe from the dt goes into both of the end chambers of the sump? wouldnt the fuge fill up much quickly as the water is going straight down and wouldnt go to the left toward protein skimmer?

for that to happen wouldnt the water level have to be at the T in the drain pipe which would be above everything???


I guess im just confused as to how its working..

[BSchaible]

beautiful illustration btw

[hamiltonguy]

I'm assuming the ball valve he has on the drain pipe leading in to the refugium controls the flow of water in to the fuge and the rest of course would go to the skimmer section.

As for the reason for that set up, I don't wanna make any random guesses, let's just let Playa-1 answer that and give any more info he wants.

[Playa-1]

so the drain pipe from the dt goes into both of the end chambers of the sump? wouldnt the fuge fill up much quickly as the water is going straight down and wouldnt go to the left toward protein skimmer?

The ball valve in the fuge can be partially shut which allows you to control how much drain water you want entering the fuge. The ball valve diverts the rest of the water to the sump. If you were to leave the ball valve wide open then you're correct, most of the water would go to the fuge. And on the same note, if you were to close the ball valve all the way then all the water is diverted to the skimmer section. So what I do is open the ball valve a little bit so I have a little flow going thru the fuge section and the rest is diverted to the skimmer section.

I've recently made a few modifications to my sump/fuge that are not pictured. I added a small powerhead to the fuge section. It's an MJ1200 and it is used to spin the Chaeto. I've also added a 35 gallon tank upstream of the pictured sump/fuge that contains a DSB and filtersock.

Thanks for the compliment, It was done with Google SketchUp. It's a fun program to play around with. The drawings sure beat the old ones that I had done with the paint program.

[Blown76mav]

Heres a link to mine. My acrylic came in today so I will be adding the sump this week. 48x16x16 The large pipe is the feed the small return.

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...readid=1566079

[kurquhart1]

Originally posted by hamiltonguy
damn yeah, finally. I didn't think there many reefers around my area. For anything good I'd have to go to T.O. or Vaughn. But the Big Al's in Oakville and Stoney Creek aren't bad.

I hope this thread works well I think it might prevent a lot of people from making beginners mistakes and resulting in tank crashes and dead livestock (considering the conditions the world's reefs are in, that'd be real helpful).


Btw, wherebouts in Hamilton?

almost downtown hamilton. big al's in stoney creek is ok its the only thing around, but im starting to find them a little dirty. fragalot.ca and aquariumpro's.ca are good sites and in one you can trade frags and theres classifieds and stuff for local reefers

[Rjukan]

^ Here is mine done up with flow arrows and labels. Hope it helps. I need a better program than Paint!

[hamiltonguy]

Yeah that definitely helps. Each design teaches a little more so less chances of mistakes .

Rjukan, I have a question though, I see that your refugium is above the DT so I understand why it says "gravity to display." That being said, where is the piping connecting the fuge and the display. Also, with that gravity return, I guess it would be, how flow does it provide (in terms of gph)?

Blown76mav what kind of overflow are you doing? Coast-to-coast or two overflow boxes in each corner?

[Rjukan]

Well, the pipe going from the fuge to my DT is actually through the wall behind the tank and it comes back into the fish room through the wall on the far side of the DT. If you click on my red house there is a pic of it in my thread. I'm on my phone so I can't insert it in this reply.

As far as flow I don't know the actual rates, it didn't really matter to me. I use the valve to set the flow though the fuge so it's not too fast and won't create bubbles when it returns to the DT

[Whys]

Playa, are you SURE that's chaeto?

[Whys]

Split flow to sump and fuge; ball-valve hidden under micron sock on primary drain; carbon reactor behind skimmer; baffle between skimmer and return-pump; separate drop-in pump to the right of the baffle to feed chiller.

[Blown76mav]

Originally posted by hamiltonguy
Yeah that definitely helps. Each design teaches a little more so less chances of mistakes .

[
Blown76mav what kind of overflow are you doing? Coast-to-coast or two overflow boxes in each corner?

The tank has dual overflows drilled into the bottom. Not really in the corners about 6 inchs in from each side. Its a AGA tank.

I should have sump pictures by the end of the week.

[JoeMomma]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Whys
Playa, are you SURE that's chaeto?

LOL very nice!

[scar_11]

Great thread

[hamiltonguy]

Nice set up Whys. Very clean and efficient looking for such a confined space.

And geez Playa what ARE you keeping in your fuge :P

[BSchaible]

Originally posted by Playa-1
Here's some drawings of my sump/fuge that might help.

What is the "Air Vent" for right before water dumps into the skimmer chamber??

[Whys]

Helps remove bubbles, I suspect. I could be wrong.

[Playa-1]

Don't B dissin My Chaeto

The air vent in the drain pipe is just to allow any trapped air an ez way to escape from the drain system as opposed to being forced thru the drain or back out the standpipe. My experience is that drains tend to work more efficiently when an air vent is installed. They also tend to make less noise. It's likely to be overkill but It wasn't very expensive to install.

[Jason Donohoe]

Sorry, no sump room but here is a pic from my under stand set up.



Not pictured are 2 phosban reactors I added recently that hand over the side of the sump on the left.

The drain from the tank is in the top left corner with a ball valve controlling the flow to the refugium on the right. The refugium sits higher than the sump and gravity flows into the return section. The sump was split into the 2 parts because I installed it under the DT after it was already up and running.

[Jason Donohoe]

In addition, with this set up my ball of chaeto can not be colonized by aliens.