25gal Tall - no filtration

shivvy · 02/10/2009, 12:10 PM

Hey Friends!

It has a been a while since I have posted. My 14 gallon is doing really well.

I was recently given a 25gallon Tall tank and want to convert over. Do you think I could get away with 2 koralias in there and no mechanical filtration?

If it is working for my 14gallon wouldn't it work for the 25?

jenglish · 02/10/2009, 12:17 PM

Just flow can still be used in a 25 as long as your are dilligent with water changes and the bioload is not overly high. keep and eye on water params and it can work just fine

Sugar Magnolia · 02/10/2009, 12:17 PM

As long as you keep up with the frequent water changes, it should be fine.

shivvy · 02/10/2009, 12:22 PM

that what I was thinking. I only have 2 percs, monti caps, acans, birdsnests and.....RBTA!

the nem has been doing great in the 14 and has been in there for 7 months. The tank has been up for 1.5 years.

I change water every week. I was just wondering if not running mechanical filtration, like filter floss, would be that detrimental. I plan on having enough flow to keep everything in the water channel so it really shouldnt be a problem.

what do you think? 2 koralis 1's facing eachother? I already have 1 koralia 1. should I bump the second to a 2?

shivvy · 02/10/2009, 12:29 PM

oh yeah, I also have about 7 lbs of kalini in a bucket w/ heater and pump. It has been in there for a couple of months and just recently I noticed the coraline fading to white.

Would this rock need to be re-cycled? It was in my other tank that was a year old before I tore it down.

shivvy · 02/12/2009, 02:55 PM

question...is it bad to only run a skimmer at night? I have one of those crap hang on back coralife skimmer and I don't want it all loud in the evening?

SaltyTX · 02/12/2009, 04:07 PM

I like your line of questioning. I have a lot of the same...

cdbias2 · 02/12/2009, 04:17 PM

It's really no different than a quarantine tank.

shivvy · 02/13/2009, 08:55 AM

cdbias, are you referring to the rock in the bucket question? I guess I will just test the water. If the results are fine, I will assume the rock is good to use with minimum chances a cycle.

BUMP ON THE SKIMMER QUESTION. I have never used a skimmer. is it ok to have only run a portion of the day? I have heard some people complain about having to blow into their venturi to get their skimmer started up. Also wasn't sure if doing this will hurt the whole "break in" of the skimmer.

thegrun · 02/13/2009, 10:02 AM

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Originally posted by shivvy
question...is it bad to only run a skimmer at night? I have one of those crap hang on back coralife skimmer and I don't want it all loud in the evening?

You can turn off your skimmer for about 8 hours a day; it cuts the efficiency of the skimmer by about half if you do so (so you would need to oversize the skimmer by twice your tank size). More than 8 hours is likely to eliminate any benefit of the skimmer. The skimmer does need to first be "broken in" on a 24/7 basis before reducing the time it is on.

shivvy · 02/13/2009, 10:12 AM

sweet, thanks so much. That is what I was looking for. I can keep the skimmer on most of the time, I just wouldn't want it on between 6 and 11pm.

This is starting to look good.

now, I just hope I don't get kicked into a mini cycle after disturbing the sand.

02/10/2009, 12:10 PM	#1
shivvy Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 217	25gal Tall - no filtration Hey Friends! It has a been a while since I have posted. My 14 gallon is doing really well. I was recently given a 25gallon Tall tank and want to convert over. Do you think I could get away with 2 koralias in there and no mechanical filtration? If it is working for my 14gallon wouldn't it work for the 25? __________________ I Like Ducks Current Tank Info: 14g BC 175wMH

02/10/2009, 12:17 PM	#2
jenglish Marquis de Carabas Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Evansville, IN Posts: 2,523	Just flow can still be used in a 25 as long as your are dilligent with water changes and the bioload is not overly high. keep and eye on water params and it can work just fine __________________ Jeremy Brown liquor never hurt anybody “Je n'ai pas besoin de cette hypothèse" Pierre-Simon Laplace I should want to cook him a simple meal, but I shouldn't want to cut into him, to tear the flesh, to wear the flesh, to be born unto new worlds where his flesh becomes my key. Current Tank Info: broken and dry

02/10/2009, 12:17 PM	#3
Sugar Magnolia Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Northern VA Posts: 17,691	As long as you keep up with the frequent water changes, it should be fine. __________________ Adrienne The only thing to fear is fear itself....and spiders.

02/10/2009, 12:22 PM	#4
shivvy Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 217	that what I was thinking. I only have 2 percs, monti caps, acans, birdsnests and.....RBTA! the nem has been doing great in the 14 and has been in there for 7 months. The tank has been up for 1.5 years. I change water every week. I was just wondering if not running mechanical filtration, like filter floss, would be that detrimental. I plan on having enough flow to keep everything in the water channel so it really shouldnt be a problem. what do you think? 2 koralis 1's facing eachother? I already have 1 koralia 1. should I bump the second to a 2? __________________ I Like Ducks Current Tank Info: 14g BC 175wMH

02/10/2009, 12:29 PM	#5
shivvy Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 217	oh yeah, I also have about 7 lbs of kalini in a bucket w/ heater and pump. It has been in there for a couple of months and just recently I noticed the coraline fading to white. Would this rock need to be re-cycled? It was in my other tank that was a year old before I tore it down. __________________ I Like Ducks Current Tank Info: 14g BC 175wMH

02/12/2009, 02:55 PM	#6
shivvy Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 217	question...is it bad to only run a skimmer at night? I have one of those crap hang on back coralife skimmer and I don't want it all loud in the evening? __________________ I Like Ducks Current Tank Info: 14g BC 175wMH

02/12/2009, 04:07 PM	#7
SaltyTX Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: SC for now.. Posts: 155	I like your line of questioning. I have a lot of the same...

02/12/2009, 04:17 PM	#8
cdbias2 Appalachian Reef Society Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Alum Creek, WV (No more) Posts: 1,433	It's really no different than a quarantine tank.

02/13/2009, 08:55 AM	#9
shivvy Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 217	cdbias, are you referring to the rock in the bucket question? I guess I will just test the water. If the results are fine, I will assume the rock is good to use with minimum chances a cycle. BUMP ON THE SKIMMER QUESTION. I have never used a skimmer. is it ok to have only run a portion of the day? I have heard some people complain about having to blow into their venturi to get their skimmer started up. Also wasn't sure if doing this will hurt the whole "break in" of the skimmer. __________________ I Like Ducks Current Tank Info: 14g BC 175wMH

02/13/2009, 10:12 AM	#11
shivvy Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 217	sweet, thanks so much. That is what I was looking for. I can keep the skimmer on most of the time, I just wouldn't want it on between 6 and 11pm. This is starting to look good. now, I just hope I don't get kicked into a mini cycle after disturbing the sand. __________________ I Like Ducks Current Tank Info: 14g BC 175wMH