just dosed flat worm exit

cubsFAN · 05/09/2009, 03:39 PM

So i dosed about 45 minutes ago and the worms were floating away within 5 mins. I dosed 40 drops on my 40 breeder. There are still a few guys crawling around. The problem wasnt bad to begin with. Some are still dying. I am now running carbon. Should I do a water change soon? Everything in the tank looks fine except the mini brittle stars arent hiding and seem upset. Snails seem to be ok. Corals look fine. Should I test the water or wait a little while. Thanks.

driftin · 05/09/2009, 04:05 PM

Start siphoning out the dead ones asap. When I used flatworm exit I put my thumb on the end of my siphon tube to control the flow, so I could target siphon the dead flatworms out of the water column or rock surface. I also overdosed the treatment to kill them all in one session, but I'm not condoning that (I don't want to be responsible if something goes wrong for you).

Don't sweat the stars. Mine freaked out and the only ones that died were the ones that fell into an LPS coral. The next day all my mini brittles stars were fine again.

cubsFAN · 05/09/2009, 06:02 PM

the dead ones have pretty much been filtered. there wasnt that many. i saw a few live ones left but they look weak. should i dose again or wait. everything looks pretty good now. ill test for amm n trates in a couple hrs. should i test anything else?

cubsFAN · 05/09/2009, 06:27 PM

my fish is out and he looks hungry. should i feed him? The tank looks really good now. The only things that arent open are zoo colonies that i siphoned aggressively (crashed the tube into some polyps) I think i may have gotten to the problem before it was a major issue. Any one else with this experience. most things ive read have said that their tank was upset for about 24 hrs before going back to normal. Experiences? thanks.

cubsFAN · 05/09/2009, 06:32 PM

fish and shrimp are eating now. nassarius, large brittle dont seem to be reacting. rest of the tank still looks good.

snorvich · 05/09/2009, 07:02 PM

When you use flatworm exit, it is best to dose at 150% of recommended. Also be sure and blow into rocks and crevices; likewise when siphoning out. Often takes two treatments to get them all.

cubsFAN · 05/09/2009, 08:13 PM

I think the flow to get everything is good and now im not seeing any worms. I think I dosed over 100% with water volume. The tank dosent seem phased at all. I think Ill do another dose. should i do another 40 drops? should i do less? things look too good to be true. hmmmm.

cubsFAN · 05/09/2009, 08:15 PM

LETS GO CUBBIES!!! Thanks Chicago reefers!!! DAMN BREW CREW!!! STUPID FLAT WORMS!!!

cubsFAN · 05/09/2009, 08:18 PM

lights out

cubsFAN · 05/10/2009, 12:27 PM

So there are no visible flat worms this morning and everyone looks happy. I have not tested my water yet, but I think Ill do the 25% water change anyways. It looks like a success. Would others still do a second dose?

cubsFAN · 05/10/2009, 01:31 PM

Ugh... on further in inspection i see 3 of the guys hanging out together. Should I hit it with another dose? Before or after the water change? Thanks.

LETS GO CUBBIES!!!

Ritten · 05/10/2009, 02:26 PM

cubs, you could do the water change and then dose again with the flatworm exit in three days or so if that works for you. I dosed the second time three days later and then again one week later and haven't had a flatworm since. Note: I dosed three times because my tank was covered with them. I lost a brittle star right of the bat during the first dose, but didn't lose a thing other than that. Good luck!

snorvich · 05/10/2009, 04:43 PM

The flatworm exit does not cause losses, it is the dieing flatworms that create a toxin. I always have felt that two doses about a week apart are best and always at 150% of recommended. I leave powerheads on, and recirculation pump off. I always use carbon afterwards.

oxymoron · 05/10/2009, 04:50 PM

Tagging along to see your prgogress. Thanks for updating

cubsFAN · 05/10/2009, 05:17 PM

Well guys a few are still around, but the majority of the tank looks flat worm free. I think I'll wait a few days and give it another dose. Before there was too many to count and now there are 6 that I can see. Of course there was just a few to begin with, then my 6 line jumped and the flat worms took off. I dont think I ever got to a point where there were enough dead worms to hurt the tank. I considered a natural solution to my problem, but at the suggestion of Jeremy at PA, I skipped the bother of hoping and waiting for an animal to solve my problem only to be dissappointed(Emeralds and valonia, peppermints and aptasia and so on...). I'm not done yet, but I think I can say that this product works. Thanks guys.

elvis142 · 05/10/2009, 06:11 PM

hello, i used a turkey baster to get the last survivors. that was after i did a freash water dip of the infested corals.

john

05/09/2009, 03:39 PM	#1
cubsFAN Moved On Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: South Lake Tahoe Posts: 1,550	just dosed flat worm exit So i dosed about 45 minutes ago and the worms were floating away within 5 mins. I dosed 40 drops on my 40 breeder. There are still a few guys crawling around. The problem wasnt bad to begin with. Some are still dying. I am now running carbon. Should I do a water change soon? Everything in the tank looks fine except the mini brittle stars arent hiding and seem upset. Snails seem to be ok. Corals look fine. Should I test the water or wait a little while. Thanks.

05/09/2009, 04:05 PM	#2
driftin Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,247	Start siphoning out the dead ones asap. When I used flatworm exit I put my thumb on the end of my siphon tube to control the flow, so I could target siphon the dead flatworms out of the water column or rock surface. I also overdosed the treatment to kill them all in one session, but I'm not condoning that (I don't want to be responsible if something goes wrong for you). Don't sweat the stars. Mine freaked out and the only ones that died were the ones that fell into an LPS coral. The next day all my mini brittles stars were fine again. __________________ -Jim Current Tank Info: 70 gal custom room divider

05/09/2009, 07:02 PM	#6
snorvich Team RC member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Outlander Posts: 40,953 Blog Entries: 46	When you use flatworm exit, it is best to dose at 150% of recommended. Also be sure and blow into rocks and crevices; likewise when siphoning out. Often takes two treatments to get them all. __________________ Warmest regards, ~Steve~

05/10/2009, 04:43 PM	#13
snorvich Team RC member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Outlander Posts: 40,953 Blog Entries: 46	The flatworm exit does not cause losses, it is the dieing flatworms that create a toxin. I always have felt that two doses about a week apart are best and always at 150% of recommended. I leave powerheads on, and recirculation pump off. I always use carbon afterwards. __________________ Warmest regards, ~Steve~

05/09/2009, 06:02 PM	#3
cubsFAN Moved On Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: South Lake Tahoe Posts: 1,550	the dead ones have pretty much been filtered. there wasnt that many. i saw a few live ones left but they look weak. should i dose again or wait. everything looks pretty good now. ill test for amm n trates in a couple hrs. should i test anything else?

05/09/2009, 06:27 PM	#4
cubsFAN Moved On Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: South Lake Tahoe Posts: 1,550	my fish is out and he looks hungry. should i feed him? The tank looks really good now. The only things that arent open are zoo colonies that i siphoned aggressively (crashed the tube into some polyps) I think i may have gotten to the problem before it was a major issue. Any one else with this experience. most things ive read have said that their tank was upset for about 24 hrs before going back to normal. Experiences? thanks.

05/09/2009, 06:32 PM	#5
cubsFAN Moved On Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: South Lake Tahoe Posts: 1,550	fish and shrimp are eating now. nassarius, large brittle dont seem to be reacting. rest of the tank still looks good.

05/09/2009, 08:13 PM	#7
cubsFAN Moved On Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: South Lake Tahoe Posts: 1,550	I think the flow to get everything is good and now im not seeing any worms. I think I dosed over 100% with water volume. The tank dosent seem phased at all. I think Ill do another dose. should i do another 40 drops? should i do less? things look too good to be true. hmmmm.

05/09/2009, 08:15 PM	#8
cubsFAN Moved On Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: South Lake Tahoe Posts: 1,550	LETS GO CUBBIES!!! Thanks Chicago reefers!!! DAMN BREW CREW!!! STUPID FLAT WORMS!!!

05/09/2009, 08:18 PM	#9
cubsFAN Moved On Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: South Lake Tahoe Posts: 1,550	lights out

05/10/2009, 12:27 PM	#10
cubsFAN Moved On Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: South Lake Tahoe Posts: 1,550	So there are no visible flat worms this morning and everyone looks happy. I have not tested my water yet, but I think Ill do the 25% water change anyways. It looks like a success. Would others still do a second dose?

05/10/2009, 01:31 PM	#11
cubsFAN Moved On Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: South Lake Tahoe Posts: 1,550	Ugh... on further in inspection i see 3 of the guys hanging out together. Should I hit it with another dose? Before or after the water change? Thanks. LETS GO CUBBIES!!!

05/10/2009, 02:26 PM	#12
Ritten Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 2,164	cubs, you could do the water change and then dose again with the flatworm exit in three days or so if that works for you. I dosed the second time three days later and then again one week later and haven't had a flatworm since. Note: I dosed three times because my tank was covered with them. I lost a brittle star right of the bat during the first dose, but didn't lose a thing other than that. Good luck!

05/10/2009, 04:50 PM	#14
oxymoron Premium Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Sylvan Lake, Alberta, Canada Posts: 91	Tagging along to see your prgogress. Thanks for updating

05/10/2009, 05:17 PM	#15
cubsFAN Moved On Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: South Lake Tahoe Posts: 1,550	Well guys a few are still around, but the majority of the tank looks flat worm free. I think I'll wait a few days and give it another dose. Before there was too many to count and now there are 6 that I can see. Of course there was just a few to begin with, then my 6 line jumped and the flat worms took off. I dont think I ever got to a point where there were enough dead worms to hurt the tank. I considered a natural solution to my problem, but at the suggestion of Jeremy at PA, I skipped the bother of hoping and waiting for an animal to solve my problem only to be dissappointed(Emeralds and valonia, peppermints and aptasia and so on...). I'm not done yet, but I think I can say that this product works. Thanks guys.

05/10/2009, 06:11 PM	#16
elvis142 Registered Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: san clemente, ca Posts: 425	hello, i used a turkey baster to get the last survivors. that was after i did a freash water dip of the infested corals. john