Vertex Puratek RODI 100gpd unit

aqualab · 06/16/2009, 12:24 PM

I was looking over the crummy directions that came with this unit and it appears that the drawing/picture supplied is backwards/mirrored from the actual unit when facing same. The left and right are reversed? Anybody who bought one of these can you verify the inlet (water supply) and the purified water discharge connection for me. Waste connection/line is identified correctly and the carbon filter is in the center housing so that isn't wrong either. The drawing shows sediment filter on right and DI on the left - that can't be right unless the whole flow is reversed from standard? Did they purposely reverse the flow on this unit to be different or did they just screw up english translation and direction on the drawing? I guess I can trace out the lines and verify direction hookups but was hoping somebody could just verify for me.

Thanks

aqualab · 06/18/2009, 05:50 AM

anybody?

3.99AfterTaxes · 06/18/2009, 10:15 AM

Yeah, it's incorrect. Flow is standard. That one had me biting my lip for a bit too.

varyhare · 06/18/2009, 11:50 AM

aqualab/3.99AfterTaxes,

I am about to receive mine next week and this is my first RO/DI unit. Can you tell me what is the standard you speak of? I guess I will be totally confused if the instructions are wrong.

Any help in setting mine up since it willbe my first will be great.

Also, have you produced any RO yet? How many gallons an hour can you make?

Thanks for any assistanct to a newbie RO/DI user.

Daniel

aqualab · 06/18/2009, 12:38 PM

I don't think that there is a standard so to speak just that most of the units I have owned in the past have the supply coming in on the left with the sediment filter at that point - this unit has the supply coming in on the right with the sediment filter also located there. Just switched, but the instructions and the accompanying picture are inacurate and/or terrible to follow. I have not hooked mine up yet so I can't speak for the efficiency/GPD, but I can say that this is very well made and impressive compared to others I have owned.

varyhare · 06/18/2009, 12:53 PM

Aqualab,

So reverse the instructions when installing or leave it the way it says? Since I have never used an RO/DI I have no basis to keep and would setup based on the instructions provided.

Was there a US tech line to call to assist me in the documentation?

Thanks again for your guidance.

By the way, I see you are an Elos member. This is all for an Elos 70 I will be upgrading to in 2 weeks. So very excited to get it all done and want to make my own water instead of lugging around containers.

varyhare · 06/18/2009, 01:29 PM

3.99AfterTaxes,

Do you have yours up and running? How's the performance? And should I then reverse the instructions?

Thanks again for your input!

varyhare · 06/24/2009, 02:46 PM

So should I follow the installation instructions or do I have to switch the filters? I just received mine and am about to install it when I get home. Thanks for your input.

Daniel

klaxan · 06/24/2009, 05:11 PM

I hooked mine up as per the instructions, and it seems to be working great. The canisters are marked supply in and to facet.

varyhare · 06/25/2009, 05:36 AM

Thanks klaxan thats what I needed to know

colotl · 06/30/2009, 11:08 PM

i had mine for about 3 months. It was hooked up the way it came and works good. sometimes i get a 1:1 ratio.

Just recently mi PPM has been creeping up to 7ppm and then decreasing back to 0. this happens everyday. This is my first ro/di system so I dont no what to make of it.

I looked online for replacement filters but non specify puratek.

Any one have ideas?

mojo~ · 06/30/2009, 11:21 PM

yea these are really nice units other filters will fit but I havent bought any for it

am944 · 01/20/2010, 05:54 PM

i just hooked up my unit, i hope correctly, and my lcd screen keeps displaying "PP". Does anybody know what this means? Also, the directions that came with my unit didn't even belong to the unit. Luckily, I looked up the directions on Vertex' website. My only hope is that I have the canisters in the correct order. I have (from right to left) the white paper one, then the white mesh one in the middle, and the brown one on the far left. PLEASE help me with these simple questions! Any help would be GREATLY appreciated!

Alan

am944 · 01/20/2010, 06:00 PM

in response to my last question, now it is reading 00pp, and I know what that means! So i guess that means i put the canisters in correctly?

colotl · 01/20/2010, 11:40 PM

Good to hear. My system is working flawlessly. Adding a float valve in my sump has made it completely auto.

Don't forget to clean the output sensor to remove any deposits so you always get a correct reading.

zyphen · 01/21/2010, 04:59 PM

Hi, looking to purchase either a Vertex PuraTek 100GPD or AirWaterIce Typhoon Extreme III and am wondering now that you have been runnning your RO/DIs for a while how the PuraTek does with Chloramine and Chlorine removal, I have 3ppm each from city water and want to know if this unit with only 1 carbon filter is getting rid of these?

I really like the booster pump included but the other unit is a 5 stage with 2 carbon filters and no booster pump, also unknown waste/product ratio.

Thanks!

Matt.

colotl · 01/21/2010, 09:30 PM

Matt,

The water report for my area shows 2ppm of chlorine. My Vertex makes about 60 gallons a week (including making water) between my 150 and 55 gallon systems and Ill get 00ppm on the meter for about 6 months before it creeps up to 01ppm.

You can always buy more stages for really cheap thru filter guys. If you want to add more stages.

I like the booster pump and the fact that it is auto. Just plug it in. If you have a float valve at the output it will shut it off when full and then get rid of waste for 15sec before going on standby.

zyphen · 01/21/2010, 11:44 PM

colotl,

Thanks for the advice, I have just purchased one, and hopefully will get it soon (back ordered).

PaxRoma · 02/09/2010, 09:42 PM

I have mine for about 6 months. Overall it is a solid built unit but there are many things that can be improved. The instruction I got was screwed up so I have to manually trace the line to make sure I install the carbon correctly.
The auto backflush every 2 hrs is useless and will just shorten the life of the DI catridge significantly.
Also, I threw away the GE membrane that is supplied with it because it only has 90% rejection, quite inferior rejection.

zyphen · 02/10/2010, 04:57 PM

Thanks for reviewing.

Were you able to turn off the 2hr auto backflush? Also which RO Membrane did you use as a replacement to the GE membrane?

I finally received mine, but have not finished installing it or turned it on. I did use silicone lubricant on the o-rings and refit and checked every tubing connection, hoping to be leak free on the first try.

clittrell · 02/11/2010, 09:15 PM

Has anyone else had this?

1. I plug the unit in and start making water PPM = 0

2. I leave the unit pluged in and use a ball valve to turn it off.

3. It flushes and stops the pump.

4. Next day I open the valve to make more water. PPM goes to 2 sometimes 6. Figure it is because the water was sitting in the DI.

5. I make water for an hour or so and the PPM stays the same. *** strange part *** If I power cycle the unit it goes right back to 0PPM. With the exact same water that was reading 2-6PPM.

Any ideas? Sorry it was a little wordy.

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PaxRoma · 02/11/2010, 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zyphen

Thanks for reviewing.

Were you able to turn off the 2hr auto backflush?

I am still trying to figure out how to disable it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by zyphen

Also which RO Membrane did you use as a replacement to the GE membrane?

I bought the Spectra Select membrane when they were on sale for 50%. Expensive, but rejection is around 98-99%

md14fish · 05/10/2010, 11:01 AM

I there any harm with just plugging and unplugging when not needed or do most people just leave plugged in?

clittrell · 05/10/2010, 12:02 PM

I leave mine pluged in. I only unplugg to reset the TDS

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colotl · 05/10/2010, 12:12 PM

I used to plug it in and unplug when i topped off but since I added a float valve to my output I just leave it plugged in but on a timer.

leaving it pluged in will make it turn on several times a day exhausting my resin faster. With the timer it turns on every 6 hrs for a 1hr period. during that time it replenishes the evaporated water and flushes itself.

06/16/2009, 12:24 PM	#1
aqualab Moved On Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Syracuse Area Posts: 587	Vertex Puratek RODI 100gpd unit I was looking over the crummy directions that came with this unit and it appears that the drawing/picture supplied is backwards/mirrored from the actual unit when facing same. The left and right are reversed? Anybody who bought one of these can you verify the inlet (water supply) and the purified water discharge connection for me. Waste connection/line is identified correctly and the carbon filter is in the center housing so that isn't wrong either. The drawing shows sediment filter on right and DI on the left - that can't be right unless the whole flow is reversed from standard? Did they purposely reverse the flow on this unit to be different or did they just screw up english translation and direction on the drawing? I guess I can trace out the lines and verify direction hookups but was hoping somebody could just verify for me. Thanks

06/18/2009, 10:15 AM	#3
3.99AfterTaxes Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 391	Yeah, it's incorrect. Flow is standard. That one had me biting my lip for a bit too. __________________ There are three people to a threesome. I am two people short every night.

06/18/2009, 11:50 AM	#4
varyhare Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Miami Beach, FL Posts: 201	aqualab/3.99AfterTaxes, I am about to receive mine next week and this is my first RO/DI unit. Can you tell me what is the standard you speak of? I guess I will be totally confused if the instructions are wrong. Any help in setting mine up since it willbe my first will be great. Also, have you produced any RO yet? How many gallons an hour can you make? Thanks for any assistanct to a newbie RO/DI user. Daniel __________________ Underwater Candy Lover Current Tank Info: Elos 70 w/Elos sump 400, Elos PS1000 skimmer, BRS Media Reactor, Sicce return, 2 MP40Wqd, Hydra fifty-two, and twenty-six controlled by Apex Lite.

06/18/2009, 12:53 PM	#6
varyhare Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Miami Beach, FL Posts: 201	Aqualab, So reverse the instructions when installing or leave it the way it says? Since I have never used an RO/DI I have no basis to keep and would setup based on the instructions provided. Was there a US tech line to call to assist me in the documentation? Thanks again for your guidance. By the way, I see you are an Elos member. This is all for an Elos 70 I will be upgrading to in 2 weeks. So very excited to get it all done and want to make my own water instead of lugging around containers. __________________ Underwater Candy Lover Current Tank Info: Elos 70 w/Elos sump 400, Elos PS1000 skimmer, BRS Media Reactor, Sicce return, 2 MP40Wqd, Hydra fifty-two, and twenty-six controlled by Apex Lite.

06/18/2009, 01:29 PM	#7
varyhare Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Miami Beach, FL Posts: 201	3.99AfterTaxes, Do you have yours up and running? How's the performance? And should I then reverse the instructions? Thanks again for your input! __________________ Underwater Candy Lover Current Tank Info: Elos 70 w/Elos sump 400, Elos PS1000 skimmer, BRS Media Reactor, Sicce return, 2 MP40Wqd, Hydra fifty-two, and twenty-six controlled by Apex Lite.

06/18/2009, 05:50 AM	#2
aqualab Moved On Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Syracuse Area Posts: 587	anybody?

06/18/2009, 12:38 PM	#5
aqualab Moved On Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Syracuse Area Posts: 587	I don't think that there is a standard so to speak just that most of the units I have owned in the past have the supply coming in on the left with the sediment filter at that point - this unit has the supply coming in on the right with the sediment filter also located there. Just switched, but the instructions and the accompanying picture are inacurate and/or terrible to follow. I have not hooked mine up yet so I can't speak for the efficiency/GPD, but I can say that this is very well made and impressive compared to others I have owned.

06/24/2009, 02:46 PM	#8
varyhare Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Miami Beach, FL Posts: 201	So should I follow the installation instructions or do I have to switch the filters? I just received mine and am about to install it when I get home. Thanks for your input. Daniel __________________ Underwater Candy Lover Current Tank Info: Elos 70 w/Elos sump 400, Elos PS1000 skimmer, BRS Media Reactor, Sicce return, 2 MP40Wqd, Hydra fifty-two, and twenty-six controlled by Apex Lite.

06/24/2009, 05:11 PM	#9
klaxan Registered Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Kansas Posts: 55	I hooked mine up as per the instructions, and it seems to be working great. The canisters are marked supply in and to facet.

06/25/2009, 05:36 AM	#10
varyhare Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Miami Beach, FL Posts: 201	Thanks klaxan thats what I needed to know __________________ Underwater Candy Lover Current Tank Info: Elos 70 w/Elos sump 400, Elos PS1000 skimmer, BRS Media Reactor, Sicce return, 2 MP40Wqd, Hydra fifty-two, and twenty-six controlled by Apex Lite.

06/30/2009, 11:08 PM	#11
colotl Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 648	i had mine for about 3 months. It was hooked up the way it came and works good. sometimes i get a 1:1 ratio. Just recently mi PPM has been creeping up to 7ppm and then decreasing back to 0. this happens everyday. This is my first ro/di system so I dont no what to make of it. I looked online for replacement filters but non specify puratek. Any one have ideas?

06/30/2009, 11:21 PM	#12
mojo~ Skimmer Guy Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: IN Posts: 5,647	yea these are really nice units other filters will fit but I havent bought any for it __________________ Mojo~

01/20/2010, 05:54 PM	#13
am944 Registered Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 65	i just hooked up my unit, i hope correctly, and my lcd screen keeps displaying "PP". Does anybody know what this means? Also, the directions that came with my unit didn't even belong to the unit. Luckily, I looked up the directions on Vertex' website. My only hope is that I have the canisters in the correct order. I have (from right to left) the white paper one, then the white mesh one in the middle, and the brown one on the far left. PLEASE help me with these simple questions! Any help would be GREATLY appreciated! Alan

01/20/2010, 06:00 PM	#14
am944 Registered Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 65	in response to my last question, now it is reading 00pp, and I know what that means! So i guess that means i put the canisters in correctly?

01/20/2010, 11:40 PM	#15
colotl Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 648	Good to hear. My system is working flawlessly. Adding a float valve in my sump has made it completely auto. Don't forget to clean the output sensor to remove any deposits so you always get a correct reading.

01/21/2010, 04:59 PM	#16
zyphen Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Ft Myers, FL Posts: 58	Chloramine Hi, looking to purchase either a Vertex PuraTek 100GPD or AirWaterIce Typhoon Extreme III and am wondering now that you have been runnning your RO/DIs for a while how the PuraTek does with Chloramine and Chlorine removal, I have 3ppm each from city water and want to know if this unit with only 1 carbon filter is getting rid of these? I really like the booster pump included but the other unit is a 5 stage with 2 carbon filters and no booster pump, also unknown waste/product ratio. Thanks! Matt.

01/21/2010, 09:30 PM	#17
colotl Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 648	Matt, The water report for my area shows 2ppm of chlorine. My Vertex makes about 60 gallons a week (including making water) between my 150 and 55 gallon systems and Ill get 00ppm on the meter for about 6 months before it creeps up to 01ppm. You can always buy more stages for really cheap thru filter guys. If you want to add more stages. I like the booster pump and the fact that it is auto. Just plug it in. If you have a float valve at the output it will shut it off when full and then get rid of waste for 15sec before going on standby.

01/21/2010, 11:44 PM	#18
zyphen Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Ft Myers, FL Posts: 58	just purchased colotl, Thanks for the advice, I have just purchased one, and hopefully will get it soon (back ordered).

02/09/2010, 09:42 PM	#19
PaxRoma Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: H town, TX Posts: 421	I have mine for about 6 months. Overall it is a solid built unit but there are many things that can be improved. The instruction I got was screwed up so I have to manually trace the line to make sure I install the carbon correctly. The auto backflush every 2 hrs is useless and will just shorten the life of the DI catridge significantly. Also, I threw away the GE membrane that is supplied with it because it only has 90% rejection, quite inferior rejection.

02/10/2010, 04:57 PM	#20
zyphen Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Ft Myers, FL Posts: 58	Thanks for reviewing. Were you able to turn off the 2hr auto backflush? Also which RO Membrane did you use as a replacement to the GE membrane? I finally received mine, but have not finished installing it or turned it on. I did use silicone lubricant on the o-rings and refit and checked every tubing connection, hoping to be leak free on the first try.

02/11/2010, 09:15 PM	#21
clittrell Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Shelton, CT Posts: 239	Re: Vertex Puratek RODI 100gpd unit Has anyone else had this? 1. I plug the unit in and start making water PPM = 0 2. I leave the unit pluged in and use a ball valve to turn it off. 3. It flushes and stops the pump. 4. Next day I open the valve to make more water. PPM goes to 2 sometimes 6. Figure it is because the water was sitting in the DI. 5. I make water for an hour or so and the PPM stays the same. * strange part * If I power cycle the unit it goes right back to 0PPM. With the exact same water that was reading 2-6PPM. Any ideas? Sorry it was a little wordy. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

05/10/2010, 11:01 AM	#23
md14fish Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: LI,NY Posts: 320	I there any harm with just plugging and unplugging when not needed or do most people just leave plugged in?

05/10/2010, 12:02 PM	#24
clittrell Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Shelton, CT Posts: 239	Vertex Puratek RODI 100gpd unit I leave mine pluged in. I only unplugg to reset the TDS Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

05/10/2010, 12:12 PM	#25
colotl Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 648	I used to plug it in and unplug when i topped off but since I added a float valve to my output I just leave it plugged in but on a timer. leaving it pluged in will make it turn on several times a day exhausting my resin faster. With the timer it turns on every 6 hrs for a 1hr period. during that time it replenishes the evaporated water and flushes itself.