Wow they make a lot of skimmers!

NiTr0x911 · 07/26/2009, 09:22 AM

I recently entered the market for a skimmer for my heavily stocked 125 gallon fowlr.Im blown away by how many skimmers are on the market!! If YOU had 300-350 to spend on a skimmer for this tank what would you buy.Again no corals but a heavy fish population.Thanks in advance.

GSMguy · 07/26/2009, 09:58 AM

MSX 250

C-21 USAF · 07/26/2009, 11:08 AM

I'm in the same boat (sort of)...looking for a skimmer for my 120 reef with plenty of fish.

Leaning towards an ETSS Evolution 750 or SWC DNW 200. Any ideas?

Let me know how your seach goes.

reefer31 · 07/26/2009, 11:41 AM

I have a octo extreme 250 on my 120 and it blows the tank away. I have no experience with msx line but I would assume msx/octo 250 would be good for your tank, it is a little bit out of your price range but its worth it.

GSMguy · 07/26/2009, 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by C-21 Usaf
I'm in the same boat (sort of)...looking for a skimmer for my 120 reef with plenty of fish.

Leaning towards an ETSS Evolution 750 or SWC DNW 200. Any ideas?

Let me know how your seach goes.

MSX/SWC 250

nikon187 · 07/26/2009, 02:05 PM

+1

scaryperson27 · 07/26/2009, 04:38 PM

+1,000,000

scaryperson27 · 07/26/2009, 04:42 PM

I don't know why you would consider any type of other design for in sump use. 25-50 watts to skim a 125 gallon tank = amasing

C-21 USAF · 07/26/2009, 05:39 PM

I don't pay an electricity bill so watts or not a factor in my decision.

This forum seems to suppor that the Evolution is very light maintenance and plankton friendly. Bairly used $250 w/blue 40 HD

I might go for a SWC 250 but I can't find any good "used" deals. Found an okay deal on the SWC DNW 200...$215 shipped.

scaryperson27 · 07/26/2009, 07:23 PM

That's an alright deal. My concern with wattage was the heat added to the tank.

I wanted to keep my temperature down.

noboddi · 07/26/2009, 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by scaryperson27
That's an alright deal. My concern with wattage was the heat added to the tank.

I wanted to keep my temperature down.

Then go with a recirculator. Get the pump out of the water.

Or an MSX/Octo Extreme. Probably the best choices in your price bracket

C-21 USAF · 07/26/2009, 08:32 PM

Good point...

I've actually never had an external skimmer...do they cut down on heat at all?

scaryperson27 · 07/26/2009, 08:45 PM

No, the external pumps are watercooled. you would need a air cooled pump for it to not put as much heat into the water.

The only skimmer that is air cooled that I can think of is:
http://www.bulkreefsupply.com/Protei...duct_info.html

noboddi · 07/26/2009, 08:59 PM

Recirc pumps are air cooled like this one

http://www.premiumaquatics.com/Merch...y_Code=Octopus

scaryperson27 · 07/27/2009, 01:53 AM

I understand what you are saying, however the extent that the air cools them is not significant enough to consider them air cooled. Like all Submersible/External pumps, their main form of cooling is inside the chamber where the magnet rotates in it's housing and the volute where the water and air fractionate.

Any pump that does not have a fan built in, is water cooled. Even a deticated external pump such as Blueline's Poseidon series:

http://www.marinedepot.com/pumps_poseidon-ap.html

"Please note that it is normal for this pump to increase the aquarium's water temp by 4–6°F."

I have had the Octopus DNW-150 which is the DNW-110's big brother, and I can tell you that the external pump heated the water just as much as any submersed pump. Also, the outside of the pump stayed really cool because all of the heat was being distributed to the water, not the air.

kcarrol2 · 07/27/2009, 06:18 AM

MSX 250

marspeed · 07/27/2009, 07:30 AM

MSX 250

07/26/2009, 09:22 AM	#1
NiTr0x911 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Greenville,SC Posts: 552	Wow they make a lot of skimmers! I recently entered the market for a skimmer for my heavily stocked 125 gallon fowlr.Im blown away by how many skimmers are on the market!! If YOU had 300-350 to spend on a skimmer for this tank what would you buy.Again no corals but a heavy fish population.Thanks in advance. __________________ I have lots of ideas. Trouble is, most of them suck.

07/26/2009, 09:58 AM	#2
GSMguy Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Northern New Mexico Posts: 17,420	MSX 250 __________________ Nick. Conehead. Shallow Reef club. Current Tank Info: 48"x27"x14" Envision Acrylic rimless, 6x39w ATi Sunpower, Custom ATB Deluxe Skimmer, 4x tunze nano stream,ATB flowstar 1500, ACJR, Tunze osmolator.

07/26/2009, 02:05 PM	#6
nikon187 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Edmonton Alberta Posts: 4,717	+1 __________________ ----------------- Current Tanks: New 210 custom 84 x 24 x 24, 60g sump, SWC 250 extreme with bubble blaster 5000, 2 vortech mp40, 2 vortech mp10, 12 T5, Water blaster 5000, warner marine bio pellets, 60g clownfish cube, red carpet anemone with a 25g sump,SRO octopus 1000sss, 250w radium, lumenarc large.

07/26/2009, 08:59 PM	#14
noboddi Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 813	Recirc pumps are air cooled like this one http://www.premiumaquatics.com/Merch...y_Code=Octopus __________________ Entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem - William of Ockham Current Tank Info: 55 gallon (36x18x20), 40 gallon sump, 25 gallon refugium, TEK 6x39w fixture, Osmolator, Kalk Reactor, Vortech MP20, 2 Koralia 3s on controller, Acropora, Anthelia, Montipora, Starry Blenny, Yellow Watchman, Rainford Goby, Tiger Gobies

07/27/2009, 06:18 AM	#16
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07/26/2009, 11:08 AM	#3
C-21 USAF Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 316	I'm in the same boat (sort of)...looking for a skimmer for my 120 reef with plenty of fish. Leaning towards an ETSS Evolution 750 or SWC DNW 200. Any ideas? Let me know how your seach goes.

07/26/2009, 11:41 AM	#4
reefer31 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Utah Posts: 561	I have a octo extreme 250 on my 120 and it blows the tank away. I have no experience with msx line but I would assume msx/octo 250 would be good for your tank, it is a little bit out of your price range but its worth it.

07/26/2009, 04:38 PM	#7
scaryperson27 Moved On Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Cape Coral, F.L. Posts: 2,106	+1,000,000

07/26/2009, 04:42 PM	#8
scaryperson27 Moved On Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Cape Coral, F.L. Posts: 2,106	I don't know why you would consider any type of other design for in sump use. 25-50 watts to skim a 125 gallon tank = amasing

07/26/2009, 05:39 PM	#9
C-21 USAF Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 316	I don't pay an electricity bill so watts or not a factor in my decision. This forum seems to suppor that the Evolution is very light maintenance and plankton friendly. Bairly used $250 w/blue 40 HD I might go for a SWC 250 but I can't find any good "used" deals. Found an okay deal on the SWC DNW 200...$215 shipped.

07/26/2009, 07:23 PM	#10
scaryperson27 Moved On Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Cape Coral, F.L. Posts: 2,106	That's an alright deal. My concern with wattage was the heat added to the tank. I wanted to keep my temperature down.

07/26/2009, 08:32 PM	#12
C-21 USAF Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 316	Good point... I've actually never had an external skimmer...do they cut down on heat at all?

07/26/2009, 08:45 PM	#13
scaryperson27 Moved On Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Cape Coral, F.L. Posts: 2,106	No, the external pumps are watercooled. you would need a air cooled pump for it to not put as much heat into the water. The only skimmer that is air cooled that I can think of is: http://www.bulkreefsupply.com/Protei...duct_info.html

07/27/2009, 01:53 AM	#15
scaryperson27 Moved On Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Cape Coral, F.L. Posts: 2,106	I understand what you are saying, however the extent that the air cools them is not significant enough to consider them air cooled. Like all Submersible/External pumps, their main form of cooling is inside the chamber where the magnet rotates in it's housing and the volute where the water and air fractionate. Any pump that does not have a fan built in, is water cooled. Even a deticated external pump such as Blueline's Poseidon series: http://www.marinedepot.com/pumps_poseidon-ap.html "Please note that it is normal for this pump to increase the aquarium's water temp by 4–6°F." I have had the Octopus DNW-150 which is the DNW-110's big brother, and I can tell you that the external pump heated the water just as much as any submersed pump. Also, the outside of the pump stayed really cool because all of the heat was being distributed to the water, not the air.

07/27/2009, 07:30 AM	#17
marspeed Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: williamstown NJ Posts: 713	MSX 250