Phoenix + Which T5 Bulbs? = Better color

gordon2726 · 08/19/2009, 01:06 PM

Hi guys,

I am replacing my 1 year old EVC DE 10K bulbs to Phoenix DE 14K. I have 2 x 39w T5 URI Super Actinic right now. I want to know what's everyone's Phoenix + T5 combination is for even better color (POP). Thank you.

rbnice1 · 08/19/2009, 02:41 PM

I have 2 250watt 14k phoenix with 4 T-5's. I am running 2 giesemann Atinic, a Fuji purple, and a ATI Blue+. I really like the coloring.

gordon2726 · 08/19/2009, 04:12 PM

I heard some people said that phoenix will wash out pink & red. I want to add 1 fuji purple just for the pink and red. Do you guys think 1 fuji purple & 1 URI super actinic will look good with 2 x phoenix?

rbnice1 · 08/19/2009, 04:20 PM

you can try it. May not be enough atinic tho. You can always add more T-5 later for a different look.

t4zalews · 08/19/2009, 04:40 PM

I had no problems with reds and pinks using the pheonix's and giesemann actinic+ T5's. --> old picture of the tank with the previous lighting set up

gordon2726 · 08/19/2009, 04:52 PM

Does giesemann actinic+ give you more POP than URI super actinic? Which T5 bulb give you the MOST POP?

rbnice1 · 08/19/2009, 05:13 PM

giesemann claim that there T-5's are the closest to super vho atinic oyu can get in a T-5. I really like mine, but cant say if they are better then any other brand other then cheap bulbs.

I will say that the fuji purple is really nice and helps some of my corals pop really nicely.

redfishsc · 08/19/2009, 05:14 PM

With a Phoenix 14K you might really get some great color pop with an ATI Blue+ and one of the Fiji Purple, as mentioned above. I have a Fiji Purple over my tank in a 4-tube combo and LOVE it.

gordon2726 · 08/19/2009, 05:17 PM

redfishsc, do you have a FTS? Would love to see your tank and color.

gordon2726 · 08/19/2009, 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rbnice1
I have 2 250watt 14k phoenix with 4 T-5's. I am running 2 giesemann Atinic, a Fuji purple, and a ATI Blue+. I really like the coloring.

rbnice1, can you post a FTS of your tank with your combo? Thank you guys!

gordon2726 · 08/20/2009, 01:15 PM

What is everyone's T5 supplement bulb for their Phoenix?

bogg · 08/20/2009, 01:43 PM

I would do two or one aquablue specials w/ Fiji purple, the Phoenix 14s IMO are almost the same as 20k if not the same bulb, the 250's are so bright and blue I think you should add some more white/red spectrum

pwoller · 08/20/2009, 02:04 PM

I run one Geisman pure actinic and one actinic plus. I was running 2 actinic plus and I like the current look better. I still feel like it could be better though.

gordon2726 · 08/20/2009, 04:53 PM

What do you guys think about this combo... 2 x 250w phoenix + 2 x 36w fiji purple? Will it look wierd? Thank you.

gordon2726 · 08/20/2009, 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by t4zalews
I had no problems with reds and pinks using the pheonix's and giesemann actinic+ T5's. --> old picture of the tank with the previous lighting set up

Very nice tank! How do you compare phoenix/giesemann actinic+ with your current radium?

Akrite · 08/20/2009, 06:08 PM

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Originally posted by gordon2726
What do you guys think about this combo... 2 x 250w phoenix + 2 x 36w fiji purple? Will it look wierd? Thank you.

Phoenix and Fiji purple alone will not look right. I have 2x250w Phoenix bulbs on a icecape e-ballast with 2x54w giesemann actinic+ and the color is amazing I all ways wanted to add 1 or 2 fiji purple to see if it helps. But the combination alone if good enough.

gordon2726 · 08/21/2009, 09:28 AM

Does anyone know which one looks brighter and give you the most pop? Giesemann's Actinic+ or true Actinic? Thank you.

t4zalews · 08/21/2009, 09:34 AM

I've tried the true actinic for a week then took them out..too purple in color for me, not very natural. I took them out and went all actinic+.

yes, I know run a 400w radium over my tank and my growth and color are way better than the old set-up. Radium's are the real deal. I run it unsupplemented and the color is a nice crisp white with blue where you need it. I'm in the planning for a bigger tank and will be running 2 400w radiums and probably get some supplements just for dawn dusk, for that I def will be using the actinic+, best color actinic bulb in my opinion

SHOmuchFUN · 08/21/2009, 09:37 AM

I use 2 blue+ actinics with my 14k phoenix bulbs on a mag ballast.
Keep in mind your ballast will dictate how much blue you see in your 14k. Mag HQI ballasts will burn them much whiter and require deeper actinic supplementation than if they are run on an electronic ballast.

Just keep that in mind.

t4zalews · 08/21/2009, 09:43 AM

^^^ very true

pwoller · 08/21/2009, 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by gordon2726
Does anyone know which one looks brighter and give you the most pop? Giesemann's Actinic+ or true Actinic? Thank you.

Actinic plus look more of a blue green to me. Pure actinic is purple. I am running one of each but itchin to try a fiji purple.

gordon2726 · 08/25/2009, 12:10 PM

Does fiji purple look puple by itself?

08/19/2009, 01:06 PM	#1
gordon2726 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Rowland Heights, So Cal Posts: 594	Phoenix + Which T5 Bulbs? = Better color Hi guys, I am replacing my 1 year old EVC DE 10K bulbs to Phoenix DE 14K. I have 2 x 39w T5 URI Super Actinic right now. I want to know what's everyone's Phoenix + T5 combination is for even better color (POP). Thank you.

08/19/2009, 04:12 PM	#3
gordon2726 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Rowland Heights, So Cal Posts: 594	I heard some people said that phoenix will wash out pink & red. I want to add 1 fuji purple just for the pink and red. Do you guys think 1 fuji purple & 1 URI super actinic will look good with 2 x phoenix? __________________ Tank Spec: 83 gal Leemar 3 sides Starphire 36"x22"x24", 27 gal Sump, 2x250w Phoenix / 2x39w UVL Super Actinic T5 Maristar fixture, Sunlight Supply Bluewave7 Duel 250w Ballast, 3 x Tunze 6125, Bubble King 200 Mini Skimmer, Red Dragon 3.5 return pump, AC3 Controller (Temp, PH, ORP), 2xBRS Dosers (cal/alk), TLS reactor (carbon), JBJ ATO/Aqualifter, 8" duel style window fan.

08/19/2009, 04:40 PM	#5
t4zalews 65g Ritteri Tank Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Royal Oak, MI Posts: 2,673	I had no problems with reds and pinks using the pheonix's and giesemann actinic+ T5's. --> old picture of the tank with the previous lighting set up __________________ - Taylor - 65g - Radion XR30 G3 Pro x2 - Deltec SCA 1351 - APEX - Tunze - Vortech

08/19/2009, 04:52 PM	#6
gordon2726 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Rowland Heights, So Cal Posts: 594	Does giesemann actinic+ give you more POP than URI super actinic? Which T5 bulb give you the MOST POP? __________________ Tank Spec: 83 gal Leemar 3 sides Starphire 36"x22"x24", 27 gal Sump, 2x250w Phoenix / 2x39w UVL Super Actinic T5 Maristar fixture, Sunlight Supply Bluewave7 Duel 250w Ballast, 3 x Tunze 6125, Bubble King 200 Mini Skimmer, Red Dragon 3.5 return pump, AC3 Controller (Temp, PH, ORP), 2xBRS Dosers (cal/alk), TLS reactor (carbon), JBJ ATO/Aqualifter, 8" duel style window fan.

08/19/2009, 05:14 PM	#8
redfishsc Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Wake Forest, NC Posts: 3,696	With a Phoenix 14K you might really get some great color pop with an ATI Blue+ and one of the Fiji Purple, as mentioned above. I have a Fiji Purple over my tank in a 4-tube combo and LOVE it. __________________ "The measure of a life is not its duration but its donation." Corrie Ten Boom “The tyrant dies and his rule is over, the martyr dies and his rule begins” -- Søren Kierkegaard Current Tank Info: ghetto grad school reef.....11g rimless tank, 36X9X9, lit by Cree and Rebels scobbled together. Stocked mostly with free stuff I got from panhandling my fellow reefers.

08/19/2009, 02:41 PM	#2
rbnice1 Moved On Join Date: May 2008 Location: Cedar Hill Posts: 3,905	I have 2 250watt 14k phoenix with 4 T-5's. I am running 2 giesemann Atinic, a Fuji purple, and a ATI Blue+. I really like the coloring.

08/19/2009, 04:20 PM	#4
rbnice1 Moved On Join Date: May 2008 Location: Cedar Hill Posts: 3,905	you can try it. May not be enough atinic tho. You can always add more T-5 later for a different look.

08/19/2009, 05:13 PM	#7
rbnice1 Moved On Join Date: May 2008 Location: Cedar Hill Posts: 3,905	giesemann claim that there T-5's are the closest to super vho atinic oyu can get in a T-5. I really like mine, but cant say if they are better then any other brand other then cheap bulbs. I will say that the fuji purple is really nice and helps some of my corals pop really nicely.

08/19/2009, 05:17 PM	#9
gordon2726 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Rowland Heights, So Cal Posts: 594	redfishsc, do you have a FTS? Would love to see your tank and color. __________________ Tank Spec: 83 gal Leemar 3 sides Starphire 36"x22"x24", 27 gal Sump, 2x250w Phoenix / 2x39w UVL Super Actinic T5 Maristar fixture, Sunlight Supply Bluewave7 Duel 250w Ballast, 3 x Tunze 6125, Bubble King 200 Mini Skimmer, Red Dragon 3.5 return pump, AC3 Controller (Temp, PH, ORP), 2xBRS Dosers (cal/alk), TLS reactor (carbon), JBJ ATO/Aqualifter, 8" duel style window fan.

08/20/2009, 01:15 PM	#11
gordon2726 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Rowland Heights, So Cal Posts: 594	What is everyone's T5 supplement bulb for their Phoenix? __________________ Tank Spec: 83 gal Leemar 3 sides Starphire 36"x22"x24", 27 gal Sump, 2x250w Phoenix / 2x39w UVL Super Actinic T5 Maristar fixture, Sunlight Supply Bluewave7 Duel 250w Ballast, 3 x Tunze 6125, Bubble King 200 Mini Skimmer, Red Dragon 3.5 return pump, AC3 Controller (Temp, PH, ORP), 2xBRS Dosers (cal/alk), TLS reactor (carbon), JBJ ATO/Aqualifter, 8" duel style window fan.

08/20/2009, 01:43 PM	#12
bogg Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: San Diego Posts: 1,174	I would do two or one aquablue specials w/ Fiji purple, the Phoenix 14s IMO are almost the same as 20k if not the same bulb, the 250's are so bright and blue I think you should add some more white/red spectrum __________________ And God said let the water teem with living creatures and he saw that it was good. Current Tank Info: Elos 120xl, 2 planet 2's, KZs, wavy sea/Tunze

08/20/2009, 02:04 PM	#13
pwoller Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Indianapolis, Indiana Posts: 1,163	I run one Geisman pure actinic and one actinic plus. I was running 2 actinic plus and I like the current look better. I still feel like it could be better though.

08/20/2009, 04:53 PM	#14
gordon2726 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Rowland Heights, So Cal Posts: 594	What do you guys think about this combo... 2 x 250w phoenix + 2 x 36w fiji purple? Will it look wierd? Thank you. __________________ Tank Spec: 83 gal Leemar 3 sides Starphire 36"x22"x24", 27 gal Sump, 2x250w Phoenix / 2x39w UVL Super Actinic T5 Maristar fixture, Sunlight Supply Bluewave7 Duel 250w Ballast, 3 x Tunze 6125, Bubble King 200 Mini Skimmer, Red Dragon 3.5 return pump, AC3 Controller (Temp, PH, ORP), 2xBRS Dosers (cal/alk), TLS reactor (carbon), JBJ ATO/Aqualifter, 8" duel style window fan.

08/21/2009, 09:28 AM	#17
gordon2726 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Rowland Heights, So Cal Posts: 594	Does anyone know which one looks brighter and give you the most pop? Giesemann's Actinic+ or true Actinic? Thank you. __________________ Tank Spec: 83 gal Leemar 3 sides Starphire 36"x22"x24", 27 gal Sump, 2x250w Phoenix / 2x39w UVL Super Actinic T5 Maristar fixture, Sunlight Supply Bluewave7 Duel 250w Ballast, 3 x Tunze 6125, Bubble King 200 Mini Skimmer, Red Dragon 3.5 return pump, AC3 Controller (Temp, PH, ORP), 2xBRS Dosers (cal/alk), TLS reactor (carbon), JBJ ATO/Aqualifter, 8" duel style window fan.

08/21/2009, 09:34 AM	#18
t4zalews 65g Ritteri Tank Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Royal Oak, MI Posts: 2,673	I've tried the true actinic for a week then took them out..too purple in color for me, not very natural. I took them out and went all actinic+. yes, I know run a 400w radium over my tank and my growth and color are way better than the old set-up. Radium's are the real deal. I run it unsupplemented and the color is a nice crisp white with blue where you need it. I'm in the planning for a bigger tank and will be running 2 400w radiums and probably get some supplements just for dawn dusk, for that I def will be using the actinic+, best color actinic bulb in my opinion __________________ - Taylor - 65g - Radion XR30 G3 Pro x2 - Deltec SCA 1351 - APEX - Tunze - Vortech

08/21/2009, 09:37 AM	#19
SHOmuchFUN Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Vermont Posts: 4,461	I use 2 blue+ actinics with my 14k phoenix bulbs on a mag ballast. Keep in mind your ballast will dictate how much blue you see in your 14k. Mag HQI ballasts will burn them much whiter and require deeper actinic supplementation than if they are run on an electronic ballast. Just keep that in mind. __________________ Erik Engstrom President, Vermont Marine Aquarists. Current Tank Info: Custom 180gal, 6x80w ATI T-5s, (2) Tunze 6025, Vortec MP40w, MSX200 w/ red demon, controlled by AcJR.

08/21/2009, 09:43 AM	#20
t4zalews 65g Ritteri Tank Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Royal Oak, MI Posts: 2,673	^^^ very true __________________ - Taylor - 65g - Radion XR30 G3 Pro x2 - Deltec SCA 1351 - APEX - Tunze - Vortech

08/25/2009, 12:10 PM	#22
gordon2726 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Rowland Heights, So Cal Posts: 594	Does fiji purple look puple by itself? __________________ Tank Spec: 83 gal Leemar 3 sides Starphire 36"x22"x24", 27 gal Sump, 2x250w Phoenix / 2x39w UVL Super Actinic T5 Maristar fixture, Sunlight Supply Bluewave7 Duel 250w Ballast, 3 x Tunze 6125, Bubble King 200 Mini Skimmer, Red Dragon 3.5 return pump, AC3 Controller (Temp, PH, ORP), 2xBRS Dosers (cal/alk), TLS reactor (carbon), JBJ ATO/Aqualifter, 8" duel style window fan.