Um... bacteria,parasite, other??!?

fishnut321 · 09/01/2009, 09:52 PM

Hello i have a purple dartfish in quarantine with what appears as cloudy white blotches on his side and eye... too large to be ich.

The large on on the side, seems to only be attached on one side.

I noticed that the large on on the side has moved with is really throwing me off trying to diagnose it.

Im treating with marcyn right now, he seems to be breathing alright, eating, not in any real distress.

Can you help me with a prognosis and a cure?

side eye

fishnut321 · 09/01/2009, 10:15 PM

sorry about the quality of the pictures anyone have a guess?

TwentyTwenty · 09/01/2009, 10:24 PM

Most likely Flukes, from your description. Prazi pro will take care of them, if indeed they are Flukes. Google Flukes and try to match up with a photo. Good luck.

fishnut321 · 09/01/2009, 10:47 PM

i dunno it hasnt been showing signs of distress by trying to scratch, im soo lost

TwentyTwenty · 09/01/2009, 10:53 PM

They really don't scratch. It's more like they dart around and have clamped fins. Hope this helps. Oh, by the way. Give him a fresh water dip. If they fall off they are Flukes. Match water temp. and ph to your Qt. tank water and give it a go.

fishnut321 · 09/01/2009, 11:01 PM

hmm... i found some pictures on the internet that look similiar, what is the best way to fully treat the problem. Also, will this affect health, resistant fish in my display??? i broke the cardinal rule and added before quarantine... i know, stupid!

TwentyTwenty · 09/01/2009, 11:13 PM

You can use prazipro in your dt. 1 tsp. per 20 gallons of water. 1 treatment, 5-7 days usually solves the problem. Flukes spread and lay eggs thats why the 5-7 days for a treatment. No skimmer or carbon or anything else that removes medication for 5-7 days while you are treating. Prazipro will bother ornamental worms if you have them in your dt. This is one of the easier pests to get rid of, if you act promptly. Good luck and don't stress yourself out everyone makes mistakes.

fishnut321 · 09/01/2009, 11:28 PM

will it effect sps or anything sensitive, i have several caps acros i dont want to harm them

fishnut321 · 09/02/2009, 09:54 AM

can anyone confirm that prazipro is completely reef safe minus worms?

bubbly · 09/02/2009, 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by fishnut321
can anyone confirm that prazipro is completely reef safe minus worms?

It would be extremely foolish to dose any medicine into a display tank.

1) Even if it's just the worms that die off, you don't know how many you have, between bristles, featherdusters, and flatworms, etc -- it may be enough to cause a tank crash if they all die en masse.

2) Bristles are incredibly helpful as a cleanup crew -- even if the bristles themselves dying doesn't create a tank crash, without their insatiable appetites and fast eating, the next times something dies you could end up with a crash w/o your bristle crew to clean things up.

3) You don't know how long that stuff is going to hang around your tank. With some medicines, even a single use is enough to contaminate live rock etc. for good.

Just put the fish into a quarantine to treat it -- with all the time and money you put into your tank, don't risk it, even if somebody swears it's perfectly safe.

What if they're wrong?

TwentyTwenty · 09/02/2009, 01:40 PM

Before you listen to anyone, do a little research. Read about Prazipro and then go to the disease forum and see what people have to say over there. Then formulate your own plan of treatment. Just don't wait too long. Good luck.

fishnut321 · 09/02/2009, 02:43 PM

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...6#post15532586

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...5&pagenumber=1

here is some additional information that proved invaluable for answering my questions, hope it helps everyone else!

TwentyTwenty · 09/02/2009, 03:19 PM

Glad you found what you where looking for. Please keep us updated. I just went through this, my fish and other life all came through it with flying colors. Prazipro really works. Good luck.

fishnut321 · 09/02/2009, 06:26 PM

Thanks for your help twenttwenty!

09/01/2009, 09:52 PM	#1
fishnut321 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Warrensburg, Mo Posts: 763	Um... bacteria,parasite, other??!? Hello i have a purple dartfish in quarantine with what appears as cloudy white blotches on his side and eye... too large to be ich. The large on on the side, seems to only be attached on one side. I noticed that the large on on the side has moved with is really throwing me off trying to diagnose it. Im treating with marcyn right now, he seems to be breathing alright, eating, not in any real distress. Can you help me with a prognosis and a cure? side eye

09/01/2009, 10:15 PM	#2
fishnut321 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Warrensburg, Mo Posts: 763	sorry about the quality of the pictures anyone have a guess?

09/01/2009, 10:24 PM	#3
TwentyTwenty Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: groton, ma. Posts: 185	Most likely Flukes, from your description. Prazi pro will take care of them, if indeed they are Flukes. Google Flukes and try to match up with a photo. Good luck.

09/01/2009, 10:47 PM	#4
fishnut321 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Warrensburg, Mo Posts: 763	i dunno it hasnt been showing signs of distress by trying to scratch, im soo lost

09/01/2009, 10:53 PM	#5
TwentyTwenty Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: groton, ma. Posts: 185	They really don't scratch. It's more like they dart around and have clamped fins. Hope this helps. Oh, by the way. Give him a fresh water dip. If they fall off they are Flukes. Match water temp. and ph to your Qt. tank water and give it a go.

09/01/2009, 11:01 PM	#6
fishnut321 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Warrensburg, Mo Posts: 763	hmm... i found some pictures on the internet that look similiar, what is the best way to fully treat the problem. Also, will this affect health, resistant fish in my display??? i broke the cardinal rule and added before quarantine... i know, stupid!

09/01/2009, 11:13 PM	#7
TwentyTwenty Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: groton, ma. Posts: 185	You can use prazipro in your dt. 1 tsp. per 20 gallons of water. 1 treatment, 5-7 days usually solves the problem. Flukes spread and lay eggs thats why the 5-7 days for a treatment. No skimmer or carbon or anything else that removes medication for 5-7 days while you are treating. Prazipro will bother ornamental worms if you have them in your dt. This is one of the easier pests to get rid of, if you act promptly. Good luck and don't stress yourself out everyone makes mistakes.

09/01/2009, 11:28 PM	#8
fishnut321 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Warrensburg, Mo Posts: 763	will it effect sps or anything sensitive, i have several caps acros i dont want to harm them

09/02/2009, 09:54 AM	#9
fishnut321 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Warrensburg, Mo Posts: 763	can anyone confirm that prazipro is completely reef safe minus worms?

09/02/2009, 01:40 PM	#11
TwentyTwenty Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: groton, ma. Posts: 185	Before you listen to anyone, do a little research. Read about Prazipro and then go to the disease forum and see what people have to say over there. Then formulate your own plan of treatment. Just don't wait too long. Good luck.

09/02/2009, 02:43 PM	#12
fishnut321 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Warrensburg, Mo Posts: 763	http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...6#post15532586 http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...5&pagenumber=1 here is some additional information that proved invaluable for answering my questions, hope it helps everyone else!

09/02/2009, 03:19 PM	#13
TwentyTwenty Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: groton, ma. Posts: 185	Glad you found what you where looking for. Please keep us updated. I just went through this, my fish and other life all came through it with flying colors. Prazipro really works. Good luck.

09/02/2009, 06:26 PM	#14
fishnut321 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Warrensburg, Mo Posts: 763	Thanks for your help twenttwenty!