Angelfish in a 60 Reef opinions please

JeF4y · 09/21/2009, 01:03 PM

We're looking for another fish or two to add to the tank since we have upgraded from the 29 to the 60 (+15 or so gal in the sump/fuge).

Current stocking:

2 False Perc's
1 Spotted Mandarin

A bit of LPS & some softies. Nothing overwhelming. Will likely add a clam too pretty soon.

We are considering a fish that's a little bigger since the new tank is bigger. The Angels are really fascinating and seem to be about the perfect size, but we want to do what is going to make sense.

I don't want a fish that's going to survive off of eating our corals, and don't want anything that will decimate the pod population which we have for the mandarin.

Any suggestions on the Angel, or any other fish for that matter which we could add?

Thanks.

Beaun · 09/21/2009, 01:33 PM

I would stick with dwarf angels (centropyge); pygmy/cherub, potters, flameback, flame, rusty...

BeanMachine · 09/21/2009, 02:26 PM

I don't believe any of the angels are completely reef safe. You'd have better luck with the pygmies, but even those are probably 50/50.

JeF4y · 09/21/2009, 02:31 PM

Thanks. Still searching. It's an odd balance on what will work and what we might want in the tank. Surprisingly more difficult than I thought it would be.

pmrossetti · 09/21/2009, 03:28 PM

How about staying small with some firefish?

100%hydrophylic · 09/21/2009, 04:03 PM

i hear coral beauty angels are good but ive heard that they do sometimes eat or nip at zoanthinds.

pmrossetti · 09/21/2009, 04:16 PM

Or a super cool midas blenny?

TheORKINMan · 09/21/2009, 04:39 PM

tuumi · 09/21/2009, 04:43 PM

FWIW, of all the fish I've ever tried to keep the dwarf angels have been the most difficult. I have a very mature tank and keep SPS. I acclimate but I've never been able to keep these very long. I've heard the shipping is pretty rough on these guys.

billdogg · 09/21/2009, 04:51 PM

i have a african flameback in my 60 cube - he (or she) is one of my favorite fish, and even though he is at max size (i've had it for 3 or 4 years now) it is only about 2" long. great fish, but can be a little nippy to newcomers for a day or two

albano · 09/21/2009, 04:55 PM

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Originally posted by TheORKINMan
Genicanthus Angels are completely reef safe, however they're also very expensive except for the females of certain species.

check out...Bellus, Lamarck. Swallowtail, have 3 together in my system, with flame and coral beauty.

TheORKINMan · 09/21/2009, 05:10 PM

Does your Lamarck get along with the other angels? I was thinking about picking one up from saltwaterfish.com but they claim it wont co-exist with any other angels and I'd def wanna get a Bellus at some point.

albano · 09/21/2009, 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheORKINMan
Does your Lamarck get along with the other angels? I was thinking about picking one up from saltwaterfish.com but they claim it wont co-exist with any other angels and I'd def wanna get a Bellus at some point.

Saltwaterfish.com says that about EVERY angelfish! Not only does my Lamack get along with bellus, but I swear, I now have the Blue-est lamarck, I've ever seen. Many (non-reef) people have asked, if they are a M/F pair.

JeF4y · 09/22/2009, 07:13 AM

I saw the Bellus yesterday for the first time (online) and it's moved WAY up the list. That is one beautiful fish & seems pretty reef safe from what I've read on multiple sites.

I found some GREAT Angel information here:
http://www.advancedaquarist.com/issues/oct2003/Fish.htm

Not sure how accurate it is, but it's another source for me to consider for sure...

09/21/2009, 01:03 PM	#1
JeF4y El Conquistidor Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,057	Angelfish in a 60 Reef opinions please We're looking for another fish or two to add to the tank since we have upgraded from the 29 to the 60 (+15 or so gal in the sump/fuge). Current stocking: 2 False Perc's 1 Spotted Mandarin A bit of LPS & some softies. Nothing overwhelming. Will likely add a clam too pretty soon. We are considering a fish that's a little bigger since the new tank is bigger. The Angels are really fascinating and seem to be about the perfect size, but we want to do what is going to make sense. I don't want a fish that's going to survive off of eating our corals, and don't want anything that will decimate the pod population which we have for the mandarin. Any suggestions on the Angel, or any other fish for that matter which we could add? Thanks. __________________ I've made a small fortune in Reefing! I just started out with a large fortune and the rest came easily. Want a Cleaner Wrasse? Consider a shower! ;-) Current Tank Info: 60 Cube!

09/21/2009, 01:33 PM	#2
Beaun It's pronounced Bone Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: East Hampton, NY Posts: 1,967	I would stick with dwarf angels (centropyge); pygmy/cherub, potters, flameback, flame, rusty... __________________ -Tyler "The only legitimate use of a computer is to play games." -Eugene Jarvis Current Tank Info: None

09/21/2009, 02:31 PM	#4
JeF4y El Conquistidor Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,057	Thanks. Still searching. It's an odd balance on what will work and what we might want in the tank. Surprisingly more difficult than I thought it would be. __________________ I've made a small fortune in Reefing! I just started out with a large fortune and the rest came easily. Want a Cleaner Wrasse? Consider a shower! ;-) Current Tank Info: 60 Cube!

09/21/2009, 04:03 PM	#6
100%hydrophylic Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: GA Posts: 1,636	i hear coral beauty angels are good but ive heard that they do sometimes eat or nip at zoanthinds. __________________ :) Current Tank Info: 75g mixed reef, 28g nano SPS

09/21/2009, 04:51 PM	#10
billdogg Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Grove City, Ohio Posts: 10,806	i have a african flameback in my 60 cube - he (or she) is one of my favorite fish, and even though he is at max size (i've had it for 3 or 4 years now) it is only about 2" long. great fish, but can be a little nippy to newcomers for a day or two __________________ I'll try to be nice if you try to be smarter! I can't help that I grow older, but you can't make me grow up! Current Tank Info: 120 mixed reef with 40b sump, RO 150 skimmer, AI Sol Blue x 2, and a 60g Frag Tank with 100g rubbermaid sump. 2 x Kessil A360w lights, BM curve 5 skimmer

09/21/2009, 02:26 PM	#3
BeanMachine Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Orange, CA Posts: 11,200	I don't believe any of the angels are completely reef safe. You'd have better luck with the pygmies, but even those are probably 50/50.

09/21/2009, 03:28 PM	#5
pmrossetti Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Cali. Posts: 3,199	How about staying small with some firefish?

09/21/2009, 04:16 PM	#7
pmrossetti Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Cali. Posts: 3,199	Or a super cool midas blenny?

09/21/2009, 04:39 PM	#8
TheORKINMan Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 423	Genicanthus Angels are completely reef safe, however they're also very expensive except for the females of certain species. Some examples: http://www.themarinecenter.com/fish/...ilangelfemale/ http://www.marinecenter.com/fish/ang...usangelfemale/ http://www.marinecenter.com/fish/ang...tailangelmale/ http://www.marinecenter.com/fish/ang...rcksangelfish/ http://www.marinecenter.com/fish/ang...llowtailangel/ http://www.marinecenter.com/fish/ang...tailangelmale/ http://www.marinecenter.com/fish/ang...angelfishmale/ http://www.marinecenter.com/fish/ang...abesangelfish/

09/21/2009, 04:43 PM	#9
tuumi Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 73	FWIW, of all the fish I've ever tried to keep the dwarf angels have been the most difficult. I have a very mature tank and keep SPS. I acclimate but I've never been able to keep these very long. I've heard the shipping is pretty rough on these guys.

09/21/2009, 05:10 PM	#12
TheORKINMan Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 423	Does your Lamarck get along with the other angels? I was thinking about picking one up from saltwaterfish.com but they claim it wont co-exist with any other angels and I'd def wanna get a Bellus at some point.

09/22/2009, 07:13 AM	#14
JeF4y El Conquistidor Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,057	I saw the Bellus yesterday for the first time (online) and it's moved WAY up the list. That is one beautiful fish & seems pretty reef safe from what I've read on multiple sites. I found some GREAT Angel information here: http://www.advancedaquarist.com/issues/oct2003/Fish.htm Not sure how accurate it is, but it's another source for me to consider for sure... __________________ I've made a small fortune in Reefing! I just started out with a large fortune and the rest came easily. Want a Cleaner Wrasse? Consider a shower! ;-) Current Tank Info: 60 Cube!