Taking out a dart and replacing it with an askoll pump will this work?

ranran · 09/27/2009, 01:32 PM

And by work I mean when i remove the dart that has too much flow and makes too much noise as my return pump. My thoughts was to replace it with two askoll 1500. One each feeding a 1 inch sea swril. When I remove the dart I will be left with a 2 inch bulk head hole. Can i just plumb it down to a two part manifold to feed the two askoll pumps? Or would the be a problem with two pumps pulling water from the same feed pipe?

Thoughts please.

ranran · 09/27/2009, 01:34 PM

I guess another thought is just to step up to the Flow Star 3200
MaxFlow 3200 GPH ant tee it off to feed the two sea swrils.

sjm817 · 09/27/2009, 01:37 PM

Why replace too much flow with too much flow? Why do you need 3000 GPH+ of return flow?

ranran · 09/27/2009, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by sjm817

Why replace too much flow with too much flow? Why do you need 3000 GPH+ of return flow?

Thats why i was looking at the two 1500 when you add 5 feet of head they drop down to about 8oo-900 gals each
I think that would be a good match.

sjm817 · 09/27/2009, 02:20 PM

What is the display and sump size?

ranran · 09/27/2009, 04:37 PM

display is 200 gal and the sump is about 50 gals

sjm817 · 09/27/2009, 04:59 PM

The numbers dont make sense to me. How much return flow do you need for a system of that size? You want 1600 - 1800 GPH through a 50G sump? Can your overflows handle that much? I run a 180G with a 75G sump and have FAR less return flow than that. How much flow were you getting from the Dart? They are flow pumps and rely on the large diameter plumbing and low head for the big flow numbers.

tufacody · 09/27/2009, 05:21 PM

Aside from the noise, why not just gate down the dart and save some electricity? I run a barracuda to run my 180, a 70 tech, and a 45 cube, as well as low flow fuge. After the plumbing and the runs and the head, I wish it had more juice. The reeflo pumps do lose gph FAST with any backpressure.

ranran · 09/27/2009, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by sjm817

The numbers dont make sense to me. How much return flow do you need for a system of that size? You want 1600 - 1800 GPH through a 50G sump? Can your overflows handle that much? I run a 180G with a 75G sump and have FAR less return flow than that. How much flow were you getting from the Dart? They are flow pumps and rely on the large diameter plumbing and low head for the big flow numbers.

Yeah I dont know scott the dart is a left over from my 330 gall tank. I used it because i had it. Its too much so i am going to down grade to a smaller pump the numbers are far less then listed once you add plumbing and head. I am not sure why you think about 10x turnover is so extreame?

ranran · 09/27/2009, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by tufacody

Aside from the noise, why not just gate down the dart and save some electricity? I run a barracuda to run my 180, a 70 tech, and a 45 cube, as well as low flow fuge. After the plumbing and the runs and the head, I wish it had more juice. The reeflo pumps do lose gph FAST with any backpressure.

Yeah the dart was perfect for my last tank a 330 buts just to much for my 200. i have it dialed back and the flow is fine now that its dialed back, its the noise its funny my last tank was in a big great room and seemed really quiet. this tank is in my office with tiled floors and its just too loud. I heard the flow stars are dead quiet so i am looking at making the swap.

GSMguy · 09/27/2009, 07:14 PM

I have the 1500 its allot of pump, i think you could get away with the 1800.

09/27/2009, 01:32 PM	#1
ranran Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: vanc wa Posts: 765	Taking out a dart and replacing it with an askoll pump will this work? And by work I mean when i remove the dart that has too much flow and makes too much noise as my return pump. My thoughts was to replace it with two askoll 1500. One each feeding a 1 inch sea swril. When I remove the dart I will be left with a 2 inch bulk head hole. Can i just plumb it down to a two part manifold to feed the two askoll pumps? Or would the be a problem with two pumps pulling water from the same feed pipe? Thoughts please. __________________ Randy Current Tank Info: down sized to a 200 gal starfire!

09/27/2009, 01:34 PM	#2
ranran Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: vanc wa Posts: 765	I guess another thought is just to step up to the Flow Star 3200 MaxFlow 3200 GPH ant tee it off to feed the two sea swrils. __________________ Randy Current Tank Info: down sized to a 200 gal starfire!

09/27/2009, 01:37 PM	#3
sjm817 On Yer left! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Northern VA Posts: 18,777	Why replace too much flow with too much flow? Why do you need 3000 GPH+ of return flow? __________________ - Scott

09/27/2009, 02:20 PM	#5
sjm817 On Yer left! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Northern VA Posts: 18,777	What is the display and sump size? __________________ - Scott

09/27/2009, 04:37 PM	#6
ranran Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: vanc wa Posts: 765	display is 200 gal and the sump is about 50 gals __________________ Randy Current Tank Info: down sized to a 200 gal starfire!

09/27/2009, 04:59 PM	#7
sjm817 On Yer left! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Northern VA Posts: 18,777	The numbers dont make sense to me. How much return flow do you need for a system of that size? You want 1600 - 1800 GPH through a 50G sump? Can your overflows handle that much? I run a 180G with a 75G sump and have FAR less return flow than that. How much flow were you getting from the Dart? They are flow pumps and rely on the large diameter plumbing and low head for the big flow numbers. __________________ - Scott

09/27/2009, 05:21 PM	#8
tufacody Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,890	Aside from the noise, why not just gate down the dart and save some electricity? I run a barracuda to run my 180, a 70 tech, and a 45 cube, as well as low flow fuge. After the plumbing and the runs and the head, I wish it had more juice. The reeflo pumps do lose gph FAST with any backpressure.

09/27/2009, 07:14 PM	#11
GSMguy Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Northern New Mexico Posts: 17,420	I have the 1500 its allot of pump, i think you could get away with the 1800. __________________ Nick. Conehead. Shallow Reef club. Current Tank Info: 48"x27"x14" Envision Acrylic rimless, 6x39w ATi Sunpower, Custom ATB Deluxe Skimmer, 4x tunze nano stream,ATB flowstar 1500, ACJR, Tunze osmolator.