Pond Foam

reefkeeperaxm · 12/02/2009, 11:31 PM

Can anyone tell me from experience if this stuff is reef safe?

http://www.123ponds.com/fp1053.html

lordofthereef · 12/03/2009, 12:51 AM

No experience but I would wager a guess that it is safe, after all it is safe for ponds with fish and other livestock and we use MANY things that aren't even made for the hobby (loctite epoxy, great stuff insulating foam, and krylon fusion spraypaint, to name a few.)

pskorf · 12/03/2009, 06:52 AM

My expierence on a pond side:
i have not used that brand but what i find out from other black foam it does not expand as well as the reg. great foam.but the really confusing part is the black does not grow algae on it.i redid a section of waterfall last month and after 3 years did not grow the carpet algae on it to cover up.the reg great stuff grew algae in a few months and looked like a reg rock.
now again pond expierence so do not know if the coraline algae will react same way.

der_wille_zur_macht · 12/03/2009, 09:46 AM

Do some searching in the DIY forum. Building rock walls with expanding foam has been covered pretty well, and there are a lot of neat tricks documented (coating the final product with epoxy and pressing sand in to it to hide the fact that it's foam, for instance).

lordofthereef · 12/03/2009, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by pskorf

My expierence on a pond side:
i have not used that brand but what i find out from other black foam it does not expand as well as the reg. great foam.but the really confusing part is the black does not grow algae on it.

This makes me feel like it has an algaecide in it. if that is the case I retract my previous statement and would NOT use it in the reef.

arredondojason · 12/03/2009, 02:29 PM

When I was stationed in Tucson,AZ one of the local fish stores used it and it was in their display tank and it look amazing I am just not sure if it is the same brand you are looking at.

pskorf · 12/03/2009, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by lordofthereef

This makes me feel like it has an algaecide in it. if that is the case I retract my previous statement and would NOT use it in the reef.

i feel a product that would be labeled for pond would not have an algaeside in it.(course some reason people pour "bottle" stuff in pond also)

the pond foam is usually a minimal expanding foam and wonder if that is the difference is the great stuff i use is the triple expand stuff.it might be the coating it seems to put on the outside where cured.when i use a little too much great stuff i let it cure then break it off.that opens the inside to more air bubble texture then the smooth outside texture.the open does grow algae on it faster then if i did not.

so my GUESSING is something to do with the outside layer with minimal expanding and again i used a different brand then the link.

tangdiver · 12/03/2009, 05:48 PM

Seen a couple people use that brand and they have put sand on before it dries and the coraline has more to grab, but still goes the coraline later on the pond foam.

12/02/2009, 11:31 PM	#1
reefkeeperaxm Moved On Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 98	Pond Foam Can anyone tell me from experience if this stuff is reef safe? http://www.123ponds.com/fp1053.html

12/03/2009, 12:51 AM	#2
lordofthereef One reef to rule them all Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Leominster, MA Posts: 5,299	No experience but I would wager a guess that it is safe, after all it is safe for ponds with fish and other livestock and we use MANY things that aren't even made for the hobby (loctite epoxy, great stuff insulating foam, and krylon fusion spraypaint, to name a few.) __________________ "A dog is the only thing on earth that loves you more than you love yourself" ~ Josh Billings Visit My Home page for current build thread (click my user name and select "Visit LordoftheReef's Homepage" in the drop down menu!

12/03/2009, 09:46 AM	#4
der_wille_zur_macht Team RC Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NY Posts: 17,749	Do some searching in the DIY forum. Building rock walls with expanding foam has been covered pretty well, and there are a lot of neat tricks documented (coating the final product with epoxy and pressing sand in to it to hide the fact that it's foam, for instance). __________________ Inconveniencing marine life since 1992 "It is my personal belief that reef aquaria should be thriving communities of biodiversity, representative of their wild counterparts, and not merely collections of pretty specimens growing on tidy clean rock shelves covered in purple coralline algae." (Eric Borneman)

12/03/2009, 05:48 PM	#8
tangdiver Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Sioux Falls South Dakota Posts: 1,231	Seen a couple people use that brand and they have put sand on before it dries and the coraline has more to grab, but still goes the coraline later on the pond foam. __________________ Its unwise to pay to much or to little When U pay to much U lose a little $ When U pay to little U sometimes lose it all because the thing U bought was incapable of doing the thing U bought it to do Current Tank Info: 6' long, 3' wide, 2' high, My tank is not worthy of Tank of the Month

12/03/2009, 06:52 AM	#3
pskorf Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Forreston,IL. Posts: 141	My expierence on a pond side: i have not used that brand but what i find out from other black foam it does not expand as well as the reg. great foam.but the really confusing part is the black does not grow algae on it.i redid a section of waterfall last month and after 3 years did not grow the carpet algae on it to cover up.the reg great stuff grew algae in a few months and looked like a reg rock. now again pond expierence so do not know if the coraline algae will react same way.

12/03/2009, 02:29 PM	#6
arredondojason Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 988	When I was stationed in Tucson,AZ one of the local fish stores used it and it was in their display tank and it look amazing I am just not sure if it is the same brand you are looking at.