alternatives to vodka

arrowheadpuffer · 12/25/2009, 09:24 PM

What else could you use other than vodka that some one under 21 could buy?

EMUReef · 12/25/2009, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by arrowheadpuffer

What else could you use other than vodka that some one under 21 could buy?

Hm i cant help but this is a good question for the under 21 reefers out there. Also trying to ask the parents im sure would be interesting "i swear its for the aquarium"

stubby 58 · 12/25/2009, 09:56 PM

Try searching use (carbon dosing) that is what the vodka is . HTH stubby

hankclaussen · 12/25/2009, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by stubby 58

Try searching use (carbon dosing) that is what the vodka is . HTH stubby

Ditto, vinegar and sugar is the simple answer though if you were reading enough to be attempting such a dosing regimine, you'd already know that. It's not something to just play around with so, please read more.

nikon187 · 12/25/2009, 10:46 PM

sugar, vinegar or brightwell aquatics bio fuel.

arrowheadpuffer · 12/25/2009, 11:28 PM

brightwell aquatics bio fuel, anyone use this? I am thinking of getting some when I get a bigger, better skimmer.

Yeah I heard vinegar works, but I dont want to risk the ph drop, sugar I also heard was harder to get accurate measuring with compared to a vodka.

Daimyo68 · 12/25/2009, 11:33 PM

I'm assuming your trying to get the Nitrates and Phosphates down.

Here's a product - http://www.reefinterests.com/content/view/18/36/
Here's where you buy it - http://www.marinedepot.com/NP_Biopel...FMCHNR-vi.html

And here's the thread on it - http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1694529

A local reefer brought this up on the forums, and another local responded that he hasn't had any issues at all

arrowheadpuffer · 12/25/2009, 11:43 PM

wow those pellets are not cheap

Daimyo68 · 12/26/2009, 12:34 AM

No, not cheap at all, but in return you get the ease of changing them out every 3-6 months (depending on your tank parameters) or when needed.

No measuring/dosing/measuring/dosing etc etc. Put these into a LF Phosban reactor and check them every so often. Do your normal testing and maintenance. It's a simple way of dosing without the added responsibilities of making sure your not going to nuke your tank by dosing it. (especially if you've never dosed vodka/sugar/vinegar before).

The Brightwell Reef BioFuel is a good product also, just make sure to use it as directed (kind of what a doctor would say. Don't OD)

Misterchinn · 12/26/2009, 12:48 AM

Would denatured ethyl alcohol work? Not sure how they denature it... but they sell it at hardware stores. But, I have no idea if that would work for dosing.

I teach at a school and we can get the good stuff... 95 to 100% pure ethyl alcohol... I might look into dosing, but so far the LR, skimmer and refugium is working pretty well, so probably won't mess with it.

lordofthereef · 12/26/2009, 05:47 AM

There is a thread about those pellets somewhere here on RC and the "testers" really do seam to be having positive results.

lordofthereef · 12/26/2009, 05:49 AM

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...ight=biopellet

Here it is

Daimyo68 · 12/26/2009, 07:21 AM

I linked that thread in my post when I made it

lordofthereef · 12/26/2009, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Daimyo68

I linked that thread in my post when I made it

My bad. I guess I should read better LOL.

arrowheadpuffer · 12/26/2009, 01:23 PM

Thanks, I am gonna try that biofuel, maybe when the pellets have been around longer I will try that.

dreko · 12/26/2009, 01:29 PM

vinegar worked well

csdavis · 12/26/2009, 01:57 PM

yeah I have heard people use sugar and have had good results.

12/25/2009, 09:24 PM	#1
arrowheadpuffer Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: CA Posts: 396	alternatives to vodka What else could you use other than vodka that some one under 21 could buy? __________________ -arrowhead Current Tank Info: 90g

12/25/2009, 10:46 PM	#5
nikon187 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Edmonton Alberta Posts: 4,717	sugar, vinegar or brightwell aquatics bio fuel. __________________ ----------------- Current Tanks: New 210 custom 84 x 24 x 24, 60g sump, SWC 250 extreme with bubble blaster 5000, 2 vortech mp40, 2 vortech mp10, 12 T5, Water blaster 5000, warner marine bio pellets, 60g clownfish cube, red carpet anemone with a 25g sump,SRO octopus 1000sss, 250w radium, lumenarc large.

12/25/2009, 11:28 PM	#6
arrowheadpuffer Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: CA Posts: 396	brightwell aquatics bio fuel, anyone use this? I am thinking of getting some when I get a bigger, better skimmer. Yeah I heard vinegar works, but I dont want to risk the ph drop, sugar I also heard was harder to get accurate measuring with compared to a vodka. __________________ -arrowhead Current Tank Info: 90g

12/25/2009, 11:33 PM	#7
Daimyo68 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: North Palm Beach, FL Posts: 2,270	I'm assuming your trying to get the Nitrates and Phosphates down. Here's a product - http://www.reefinterests.com/content/view/18/36/ Here's where you buy it - http://www.marinedepot.com/NP_Biopel...FMCHNR-vi.html And here's the thread on it - http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1694529 A local reefer brought this up on the forums, and another local responded that he hasn't had any issues at all __________________ 120g, 50g Sump, SRO XP2000i, MP40W x2, DIY Hybrid LED/T5 Fixture, Apex PBMAS VP 2010-11 PBMAS 2017 President

12/25/2009, 11:43 PM	#8
arrowheadpuffer Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: CA Posts: 396	wow those pellets are not cheap __________________ -arrowhead Current Tank Info: 90g

12/25/2009, 09:56 PM	#3
stubby 58 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Ama TX Posts: 217	Try searching use (carbon dosing) that is what the vodka is . HTH stubby

12/26/2009, 12:34 AM	#9
Daimyo68 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: North Palm Beach, FL Posts: 2,270	No, not cheap at all, but in return you get the ease of changing them out every 3-6 months (depending on your tank parameters) or when needed. No measuring/dosing/measuring/dosing etc etc. Put these into a LF Phosban reactor and check them every so often. Do your normal testing and maintenance. It's a simple way of dosing without the added responsibilities of making sure your not going to nuke your tank by dosing it. (especially if you've never dosed vodka/sugar/vinegar before). The Brightwell Reef BioFuel is a good product also, just make sure to use it as directed (kind of what a doctor would say. Don't OD) __________________ 120g, 50g Sump, SRO XP2000i, MP40W x2, DIY Hybrid LED/T5 Fixture, Apex PBMAS VP 2010-11 PBMAS 2017 President

12/26/2009, 12:48 AM	#10
Misterchinn Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 84	Would denatured ethyl alcohol work? Not sure how they denature it... but they sell it at hardware stores. But, I have no idea if that would work for dosing. I teach at a school and we can get the good stuff... 95 to 100% pure ethyl alcohol... I might look into dosing, but so far the LR, skimmer and refugium is working pretty well, so probably won't mess with it.

12/26/2009, 05:47 AM	#11
lordofthereef One reef to rule them all Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Leominster, MA Posts: 5,299	There is a thread about those pellets somewhere here on RC and the "testers" really do seam to be having positive results. __________________ "A dog is the only thing on earth that loves you more than you love yourself" ~ Josh Billings Visit My Home page for current build thread (click my user name and select "Visit LordoftheReef's Homepage" in the drop down menu!

12/26/2009, 05:49 AM	#12
lordofthereef One reef to rule them all Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Leominster, MA Posts: 5,299	http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...ight=biopellet Here it is __________________ "A dog is the only thing on earth that loves you more than you love yourself" ~ Josh Billings Visit My Home page for current build thread (click my user name and select "Visit LordoftheReef's Homepage" in the drop down menu!

12/26/2009, 07:21 AM	#13
Daimyo68 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: North Palm Beach, FL Posts: 2,270	I linked that thread in my post when I made it __________________ 120g, 50g Sump, SRO XP2000i, MP40W x2, DIY Hybrid LED/T5 Fixture, Apex PBMAS VP 2010-11 PBMAS 2017 President

12/26/2009, 01:23 PM	#15
arrowheadpuffer Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: CA Posts: 396	Thanks, I am gonna try that biofuel, maybe when the pellets have been around longer I will try that. __________________ -arrowhead Current Tank Info: 90g

12/26/2009, 01:29 PM	#16
dreko Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: NY Posts: 79	vinegar worked well

12/26/2009, 01:57 PM	#17
csdavis Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 54	yeah I have heard people use sugar and have had good results. __________________ 55 gallon DT with 30 gallon sump, 2x175 watt metal halides + 2x110 watt VHO actinics, [[Been dosing vodka for years, maybe I will start putting it into my tank :).]]