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Unread 01/31/2010, 07:32 PM   #1
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look what my sixline is doing.. what to do? pics

whenever i move the powerhead he just swims back into it. should i just let him stay there?



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Unread 01/31/2010, 07:53 PM   #2
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just added it today. he looked awesome in the LFS tank and was swimming around and ate food. theyve had him for a month with no problems. could it just be stress from acclimation?


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Unread 01/31/2010, 08:00 PM   #3
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He will want a place to hid untill he is used to his new home.
Do you have live rock in the tank or is this just your quarantine tank?


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Unread 01/31/2010, 08:01 PM   #4
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I would just let it be there if it wants to.


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Unread 01/31/2010, 08:04 PM   #5
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Looks to be your QT. you might want to kill the light for a day or two till he gets acclimated.


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Unread 01/31/2010, 08:04 PM   #6
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I'd leave him for now and get him something better to take refuge in. I see the pvc there but appearently thats not good enough for him. If he never comes out being that you've sure the petstore has had it and observed it for a month I might consider just putting it in the display.


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Unread 01/31/2010, 08:23 PM   #7
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He should be ok. Put a couple chunks of rock in there so he has something to hide in. Mine would sleep in the overflow for the frag tank and about once a month get sucked to the sump. They like to find a spot thats tight for security.


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Unread 01/31/2010, 08:27 PM   #8
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Looks like he is hiding...I would turn off the lights and maybe add some more PVC to give him some more choices. Do you have enough flow to remove the powerhead for an extended period?


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Unread 01/31/2010, 08:28 PM   #9
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I'd leave him for now and get him something better to take refuge in. I see the pvc there but appearently thats not good enough for him. If he never comes out being that you've sure the petstore has had it and observed it for a month I might consider just putting it in the display.
OH please dont take this advice. You are doing the right thing by QTing follow a full QT and I suggest even treating to be safe. But thats your call observation for a month is good also but not while at the fish store.

Wrasses have some strange behavior and like to hide in rock to make a cacoon. He will be fine just make sure the tank is covered so he cant jump.


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Unread 01/31/2010, 08:30 PM   #10
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just add some rocks he will be fine


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Like Bigreefer said add some rocks and don't mess with him and stress him further he will acclimate.


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Unread 01/31/2010, 09:00 PM   #12
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OH please dont take this advice. .
a month of observation is plenty of time for ich or any other sickness to show up. the only reservation is due to the other livestock constantly being added to the system hence the word "consider". For all I know its his first fish in which case there's no concern to infecting other fish or it could be a 30g with easy to move sparse aquascaping where the possibility of treating the current stock in QT plays better on the conscience then letting the wrasse stay unbearably uncomfortable in a bare QT. In all likelyness I dont think the wrasse is going to stay there very long and with curiousity and the desire to eat will probably be out soon enough. there are other fish and cases where the likely survival in QT dictate chancing direct placement into the display (many picky eaters like leopard wrasses, copperbands ect). a sixline doesn't exactly fall into this category but dont act like this is never the case.


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Unread 01/31/2010, 09:19 PM   #13
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a month of observation is plenty of time for ich or any other sickness to show up. the only reservation is due to the other livestock constantly being added to the system hence the word "consider". For all I know its his first fish in which case there's no concern to infecting other fish or it could be a 30g with easy to move sparse aquascaping where the possibility of treating the current stock in QT plays better on the conscience then letting the wrasse stay unbearably uncomfortable in a bare QT. In all likelyness I dont think the wrasse is going to stay there very long and with curiousity and the desire to eat will probably be out soon enough. there are other fish and cases where the likely survival in QT dictate chancing direct placement into the display (many picky eaters like leopard wrasses, copperbands ect). a sixline doesn't exactly fall into this category but dont act like this is never the case.
See most not all local fish stores run copper in their systems. This is a good thing but most of the time they don't keep the level high enough to kill the ich just to keep the numbers down. So while in the store it can be in low numbers in the gills. As soon as it hits your tank the ich will do its thing. A month is long enough in your tank not the LFS.


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Unread 01/31/2010, 09:34 PM   #14
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always QT no matter what you see

i havent see his waste yet so i couldnt tell if he had internal parasites. my LFS is prone for having parasites like that, so i have prazipro waiting just incase. thx for all the info, i added more PVC and the lights will remain off for a couple days. the tank is covered.


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Unread 01/31/2010, 09:39 PM   #15
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theres obviously the possibility of ich or any other disease unless the fish was kept in isolation from the other stock during that time period. that is not my argument. My argument is if you think keeping it in QT compromises survival more than the risk of contaminating your display depending on YOUR tank and philosophy's you might CONSIDER it (or not). on a $15 sixline this might not be the case (or might depending on you). on a $800 candy basslet or attempt at successfully keeping leopard wrasses or any situation in between it may be or may not be a no brainer. At this point its really a mute discussion having just added it today. and it will still be mute point tommorow and several more days while giving it an opportunity to do what its likely going to do (come out and acclimate).


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Unread 01/31/2010, 09:42 PM   #16
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What LFS is it from that's prone to parasites?


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Unread 01/31/2010, 09:45 PM   #17
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Colin,
How did you acclimate? It's usually a practice of LFS to keep the salinity down in their tanks it lowers the fishes stress level and cuts on salt cost. It is hard on a fish to go from a lower salinity to a higher one right away. Not saying this is the case but it's a possibility.


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As many have suggested you should probably kill the lights and give him some time to relax.

Hell most likely create a mucus sack and spend the night in it.


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Unread 01/31/2010, 10:21 PM   #19
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Just make sure you have some kind of cover over the tank


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Be warned....Those wrasses are carpet surfers.


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+1 on it hiding. Kinda cute actually. Might try killing your lights as been said. They are also jumpers so make sure you have some sort of lid.


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Unread 02/01/2010, 05:59 AM   #22
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i got it from 2 turtles. i acclimated it by adding a small amount of water ever 20 minutes for i think like 3 or 4 hours and i would blow air into it now and than with a straw. dont be down on 2turtles they have nice fish and they keep them in pretty good condition. ive never had a fish with a bad disease like ich, brook, or velvet. they just dont treat for some internal flukes that you have to do on your own


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Unread 02/01/2010, 08:45 AM   #23
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I think you are doing the great job by QT. Some people say you waste time with a low $ fish but its a creature to, a 15.00 fish can screw up a nice tank just as fast as a 300.00 fish. Keep doing what your doing the wrasse is a weard fish and like to hide, make nest, and jump. The wrasse makes a slime cover when its sleeping, this is to protect itself from other fish that may want to eat it. Like I said mine use to sleep in the overflow. They are also very hardy fish and can take alot.

As far as LFS and copper, I'm not sure on the ones you all use but mine just keeps a small amount in the tank at a SG of 1.015 and this is only on tanks that have more expesive fish in them. All fish need to be put in QT period. There is only one place that I know of that does a 100% QT and medical treatment prior to selling their fish and that is DR Fosters and Smith's Divers Den. Good luck and keep up the great practice of QT.


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Unread 02/01/2010, 02:28 PM   #24
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he died in the night. im honestly heartbroken. to pick up and see such a beautiful fish that was killed by you, who wouldve survived if in the ocean is a pretty bad thought. i called the LFS and asked for a refund because there was NOTHING wrong with the tank he was in or the conditions. i said since it wasnt even 24hours if there was something they could do and they said "nothing sorry." wich really made me more angry. thats the last time i get a fish from them. i hope my mantis is happy with a 25 dollar meal


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I'm sorry for your loss. Keep your head up, we all have losses thats one reason I do 100% QT. With the amount of time you have been in the hobby I would have to say it was nothing you did. If your LFS is anything like mine, which I'm sure they are, a refund for a dead fish is way out of the question. I lost a blue throat trigger, 80.00 fish after a week of not eating and they looked at me like I was crazy. Needless to say it was the last fish I purchased from them. Keep an eye on Dr. Foster and Smiths Divers Den. They get alot of wrasses and I have purchased all of my larger fish from them with 100% survival.


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