is the fish list to much?

cmdrstoneey · 02/07/2010, 01:12 PM

i have a 140 righet now but going to have a 40 and 55 on eaterside as frag tanks and to share water

in tank now
2 ocellaris clowns
1 lunar wrasse
1 copperband butterfly
1 sisor tail goby
1 lawnmower blenny
1 flasher wrasse

wanting to put in the tank

4 lyretail anthias
1 royal gramma
1 bicolor blenny
1 green mandrain
1 foxface rabbitfish
1 hippo tang ( frag tank )
1 clown tang
1 powder brown tang ( frag tang )
1 purple tang
1 achillies tang
! exquistise wrasse
a pair of blue throut triggers
the tanks will have a wide varity of softies and lps and spe and other corals
soi what do you all think?

Toddrtrex · 02/07/2010, 02:41 PM

IMO, a Hippo and a "powder brown" (( nigricans or japonicus )) both are going to get too big for your frag tanks.

I wouldn't keep an Achilles in a 140, and same goes for the clown tang. Both will get too big, and the clown will get way too mean.

zachfishman · 02/07/2010, 02:43 PM

Without looking too much at the list I went straight for the tangs. Between the hippo and powder brown tangs, neither will fit in your 40 or 55 gallon frag tanks. Supposing the 55 is sparsely stocked with rock with ample swimming room, you might be able to get away with a yellow or scopas tang; though some will tell you otherwise.

As for those tangs you'd like to keep in the 140, I'd recommend against the Achilles (assuming a 140 is not longer than 6' in length). Achilles are wildly active, and require more space than you can provide; this is a great thread on them: http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh....php?t=1492655

The clown and the purple may get along, but both are very aggressive. Replacing the clown with a hippo would be the way to go; so long as you introduced a purple of smaller size after the hippo is established.

sedor · 02/07/2010, 03:04 PM

I would lose to rabbitfish, the hippo, the clown, the achilles and one of the triggers. Assuming you get everything else you could probably fit a couple other smaller fish in the mix, but IMO what you have listed is just to many large fish for a 140. That looks like a stocklist for a 280 or larger.

petoonia · 02/07/2010, 03:40 PM

I would definitely take out alot of the big fish you have listed. No clown tang, no achilles.

Powder brown, or hippo one or the other not both in the 140.

Same with the triggers, I would only add the triggers if you didnt add any other big fish at all.

I would put the hippo tang, purple tang, foxface, anthias, in the 140, then divide up the smaller fish you like into the frag tanks. The mandarin I would add to the 140 only if it has been up and running for quite some time (well over 6 months).

Tylt33 · 02/07/2010, 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmdrstoneey

i have a 140 righet now but going to have a 40 and 55 on eaterside as frag tanks and to share water

in tank now
2 ocellaris clowns
1 lunar wrasse
1 copperband butterfly
1 sisor tail goby
1 lawnmower blenny
1 flasher wrasse

wanting to put in the tank

4 lyretail anthias
1 royal gramma
1 bicolor blenny
1 green mandrain
1 foxface rabbitfish
1 hippo tang ( frag tank )
1 clown tang
1 powder brown tang ( frag tang )
1 purple tang
1 achillies tang
! exquistise wrasse
a pair of blue throut triggers
the tanks will have a wide varity of softies and lps and spe and other corals
soi what do you all think?

Both frag tanks are too small for tangs. The Achilles' is a very difficult tang to keep. If you're getting those two triggers, you can have maybe one tang in your tank reasonably.

I'd say:
No Hippo Tang
No Clown Tang
Powder Brown in main tank
No Purple Tang
No Achilles Tang

nikon187 · 02/07/2010, 04:23 PM

100% agree to all posted. Maybe keep the hippo and purple in the 140, but not in the frag tanks.

Pufferpunk · 02/07/2010, 04:49 PM

Manderins eat their weight in live pods, daily.

bertoni · 02/07/2010, 05:14 PM

I might add two royal-gramma-sized fish to that system, but not any more. A yellow or kole tang might be okay, if you want a larger fish.

newtank · 02/07/2010, 06:50 PM

I love the Lunar Wrasse, had many and all are total pigs and bullies, very buetiful and intelligent, when mature, more than a handfull. when placed with the anthia's and all those tangs in that small of a tank, you may need to rethink...feeding time will be a nightmare.

cmdrstoneey · 02/07/2010, 07:09 PM

ok thank you all so even if i stark relly small this is still going to be a problem? going to upgrade in less than a year to maby a 400 gal tank

cmdrstoneey · 02/07/2010, 07:11 PM

and whould it be a problem to add an angel to a 140? im thinking a queen blueline or emporer

02/07/2010, 01:12 PM	#1
cmdrstoneey Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 53	is the fish list to much? i have a 140 righet now but going to have a 40 and 55 on eaterside as frag tanks and to share water in tank now 2 ocellaris clowns 1 lunar wrasse 1 copperband butterfly 1 sisor tail goby 1 lawnmower blenny 1 flasher wrasse wanting to put in the tank 4 lyretail anthias 1 royal gramma 1 bicolor blenny 1 green mandrain 1 foxface rabbitfish 1 hippo tang ( frag tank ) 1 clown tang 1 powder brown tang ( frag tang ) 1 purple tang 1 achillies tang ! exquistise wrasse a pair of blue throut triggers the tanks will have a wide varity of softies and lps and spe and other corals soi what do you all think?

02/07/2010, 02:41 PM	#2
Toddrtrex Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Carol Stream, IL Posts: 23,162	IMO, a Hippo and a "powder brown" (( nigricans or japonicus )) both are going to get too big for your frag tanks. I wouldn't keep an Achilles in a 140, and same goes for the clown tang. Both will get too big, and the clown will get way too mean. __________________ Click my name and then "visit toddrtrex's homepage" for tank pictures Current Tank Info: 210g reef and 65g reef

02/07/2010, 02:43 PM	#3
zachfishman Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: St Petersburg, FL Posts: 3,577	Without looking too much at the list I went straight for the tangs. Between the hippo and powder brown tangs, neither will fit in your 40 or 55 gallon frag tanks. Supposing the 55 is sparsely stocked with rock with ample swimming room, you might be able to get away with a yellow or scopas tang; though some will tell you otherwise. As for those tangs you'd like to keep in the 140, I'd recommend against the Achilles (assuming a 140 is not longer than 6' in length). Achilles are wildly active, and require more space than you can provide; this is a great thread on them: http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh....php?t=1492655 The clown and the purple may get along, but both are very aggressive. Replacing the clown with a hippo would be the way to go; so long as you introduced a purple of smaller size after the hippo is established. __________________ Patience is a reefer's best tool. Secret Xenia lover. M.S. Marine Biology Staff - Marine Discovery Center, St. Petersburg FL Tampa Bay Reef Club BOD 2018 Current Tank Info: 34g modded Solana

02/07/2010, 03:04 PM	#4
sedor Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 4,689	I would lose to rabbitfish, the hippo, the clown, the achilles and one of the triggers. Assuming you get everything else you could probably fit a couple other smaller fish in the mix, but IMO what you have listed is just to many large fish for a 140. That looks like a stocklist for a 280 or larger. __________________ Ryan

02/07/2010, 04:23 PM	#7
nikon187 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Edmonton Alberta Posts: 4,717	100% agree to all posted. Maybe keep the hippo and purple in the 140, but not in the frag tanks. __________________ ----------------- Current Tanks: New 210 custom 84 x 24 x 24, 60g sump, SWC 250 extreme with bubble blaster 5000, 2 vortech mp40, 2 vortech mp10, 12 T5, Water blaster 5000, warner marine bio pellets, 60g clownfish cube, red carpet anemone with a 25g sump,SRO octopus 1000sss, 250w radium, lumenarc large.

02/07/2010, 03:40 PM	#5
petoonia HereWeGoAgain... Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,648	I would definitely take out alot of the big fish you have listed. No clown tang, no achilles. Powder brown, or hippo one or the other not both in the 140. Same with the triggers, I would only add the triggers if you didnt add any other big fish at all. I would put the hippo tang, purple tang, foxface, anthias, in the 140, then divide up the smaller fish you like into the frag tanks. The mandarin I would add to the 140 only if it has been up and running for quite some time (well over 6 months).

02/07/2010, 04:49 PM	#8
Pufferpunk Moved On Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Franklin Park, IL Posts: 21,027	Manderins eat their weight in live pods, daily.

02/07/2010, 05:14 PM	#9
bertoni RC Mod Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mountain View, CA, USA Posts: 88,616	I might add two royal-gramma-sized fish to that system, but not any more. A yellow or kole tang might be okay, if you want a larger fish. __________________ Jonathan Bertoni

02/07/2010, 06:50 PM	#10
newtank Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Peru In Posts: 319	I love the Lunar Wrasse, had many and all are total pigs and bullies, very buetiful and intelligent, when mature, more than a handfull. when placed with the anthia's and all those tangs in that small of a tank, you may need to rethink...feeding time will be a nightmare. __________________ Just because you can... doesn't mean you should. Current Tank Info: Newest new tank- 300G DEEP

02/07/2010, 07:09 PM	#11
cmdrstoneey Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 53	ok thank you all so even if i stark relly small this is still going to be a problem? going to upgrade in less than a year to maby a 400 gal tank

02/07/2010, 07:11 PM	#12
cmdrstoneey Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 53	and whould it be a problem to add an angel to a 140? im thinking a queen blueline or emporer