skimmer for 40 breeder

sdc19982002 · 02/11/2010, 01:42 PM

Would like input on a hang on skimmer for a 40 breeder. The tank will house small fish only. I've looked at the remora with the surface skimmer add on and think this will be fine. Would like input from those of you who are running sumpless. I have a 58 reef with sump but dont want to go that way with this one. Thanks

grimlykindo · 02/11/2010, 01:50 PM

I'm in the same boat as you - I have a sumpless 40 breeder as well. In my local reef club the octopus hob skimmers are highly regarded. I've seen then in person and they do pull a lot of dark skim and seem pretty quiet. They are $165 at one of my lfs - I would assume they can be had cheaper online. I plan on getting one eventually

Do not get a remora hob- they are outdated and skim inconsistently - or so my reseach tells me

Chiefsurfer · 02/11/2010, 02:32 PM

^agree with both. The aquaCRemora is inconsistant at best. It can be good, but they are loud, and outdated as grimly says. The reefoctopus OR eshopps are both phenominal skimmers. I know from experience with the PSK75H, I am using it on my 20 gallon reef. It pulls consistantly dark skim, and needs little adjustment once it is set and broken in.

sdc19982002 · 02/11/2010, 03:00 PM

Waht about the in tank footprint. I want to avoid the eyesore some in tank skimmers can be.

Chiefsurfer · 02/11/2010, 03:21 PM

do not know about the reefoctopus, but I can state on the eshopps. The intake side is identical to a regular powerfilter intake, like the Aquaclear if you are familiar. The outlet side is a little more intrusive into the space. It is a pipe with the same diameter and size as the intake(little shorter) but it has to have a bubble-catcher sponge. The factory one is pretty small, but will have to be replaced with something larger, as the factory one clogs and backs up the skimmer pretty well. I used a pond-filter pre-filter. Mine is generic, and kind of large. I have also seen the mag-pump brand pre-filter which is just as big, but I think it may work a bit better. There is no pump inside the tank.

sdc19982002 · 02/11/2010, 03:27 PM

Do you happen to have a pic with it in your tank. If not dont through the trouble.

Chiefsurfer · 02/11/2010, 06:39 PM

Just for good reference, the powerhead to the left of the "bubble-catcher" is a Koralia-1. The middle pipe is the inlet, and the pipe to the right is a pipe for an AC-70.

Felix T Cat · 02/11/2010, 07:07 PM

For what its worth I had a CPR hang on back fuge / skimmer. It allowed me to run a basic skimmer (had good pull of cr*p from the water) and a good size area for a fuge.

http://www.marinedepot.com/CPR_AquaF...FIRFEB-vi.html

I got mine used from a local reefer for $65

Aquabox · 02/12/2010, 10:59 PM

I would like to hear from others who also run sumpless 40 breeders successfully and what skimmers they use personally.

TwentyTwenty · 02/12/2010, 11:14 PM

I use a Tunze 9002 in tank. You can hardly see it. It just blends into the black back ground. Off the top of my head its about 9 inches long an inch deep and 5 inches wide. Pulls out what ever is in there. Just another point of view. Good luck. Mike.

chino402 · 02/13/2010, 06:51 AM

i wouldn't run a skimmer for tanks that smaller than 120gl... just do 15-20% water change every 2 week! =]

chino402 · 02/13/2010, 06:56 AM

i wouldn't run a skimmer for tanks that smaller than 120gl... just do 15-20% water change every 2 week!

02/11/2010, 01:42 PM	#1
sdc19982002 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Wills Point,Texas Posts: 925	skimmer for 40 breeder Would like input on a hang on skimmer for a 40 breeder. The tank will house small fish only. I've looked at the remora with the surface skimmer add on and think this will be fine. Would like input from those of you who are running sumpless. I have a 58 reef with sump but dont want to go that way with this one. Thanks

02/11/2010, 02:32 PM	#3
Chiefsurfer Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Seaside Park, NJ Posts: 2,138	^agree with both. The aquaCRemora is inconsistant at best. It can be good, but they are loud, and outdated as grimly says. The reefoctopus OR eshopps are both phenominal skimmers. I know from experience with the PSK75H, I am using it on my 20 gallon reef. It pulls consistantly dark skim, and needs little adjustment once it is set and broken in. __________________ Chief Current Tank: 20 Gallon tall, 4-bulb t5 HO, Eshopps psk75H, ac-70 fuge. So far, green clown goby, striped goby, more gorillas than I wish I had, 5 SPS frags, 3 LPS Frags, 1 Softee, Turkey Wing Clam. Plan for the future: 120 gallon 4ft glass tank. Current Tank Info: 20 gallon tall Reef Tank

02/11/2010, 03:21 PM	#5
Chiefsurfer Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Seaside Park, NJ Posts: 2,138	do not know about the reefoctopus, but I can state on the eshopps. The intake side is identical to a regular powerfilter intake, like the Aquaclear if you are familiar. The outlet side is a little more intrusive into the space. It is a pipe with the same diameter and size as the intake(little shorter) but it has to have a bubble-catcher sponge. The factory one is pretty small, but will have to be replaced with something larger, as the factory one clogs and backs up the skimmer pretty well. I used a pond-filter pre-filter. Mine is generic, and kind of large. I have also seen the mag-pump brand pre-filter which is just as big, but I think it may work a bit better. There is no pump inside the tank. __________________ Chief Current Tank: 20 Gallon tall, 4-bulb t5 HO, Eshopps psk75H, ac-70 fuge. So far, green clown goby, striped goby, more gorillas than I wish I had, 5 SPS frags, 3 LPS Frags, 1 Softee, Turkey Wing Clam. Plan for the future: 120 gallon 4ft glass tank. Current Tank Info: 20 gallon tall Reef Tank

02/11/2010, 06:39 PM	#7
Chiefsurfer Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Seaside Park, NJ Posts: 2,138	Just for good reference, the powerhead to the left of the "bubble-catcher" is a Koralia-1. The middle pipe is the inlet, and the pipe to the right is a pipe for an AC-70. __________________ Chief Current Tank: 20 Gallon tall, 4-bulb t5 HO, Eshopps psk75H, ac-70 fuge. So far, green clown goby, striped goby, more gorillas than I wish I had, 5 SPS frags, 3 LPS Frags, 1 Softee, Turkey Wing Clam. Plan for the future: 120 gallon 4ft glass tank. Current Tank Info: 20 gallon tall Reef Tank

02/13/2010, 06:51 AM	#11
chino402 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 54	i wouldn't run a skimmer for tanks that smaller than 120gl... just do 15-20% water change every 2 week! =] __________________ who cares it's EXPENSIVE, it makes me HAPPY...

02/11/2010, 01:50 PM	#2
grimlykindo Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Minnesota Posts: 78	I'm in the same boat as you - I have a sumpless 40 breeder as well. In my local reef club the octopus hob skimmers are highly regarded. I've seen then in person and they do pull a lot of dark skim and seem pretty quiet. They are $165 at one of my lfs - I would assume they can be had cheaper online. I plan on getting one eventually Do not get a remora hob- they are outdated and skim inconsistently - or so my reseach tells me

02/11/2010, 03:00 PM	#4
sdc19982002 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Wills Point,Texas Posts: 925	Waht about the in tank footprint. I want to avoid the eyesore some in tank skimmers can be.

02/11/2010, 03:27 PM	#6
sdc19982002 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Wills Point,Texas Posts: 925	Do you happen to have a pic with it in your tank. If not dont through the trouble.

02/11/2010, 07:07 PM	#8
Felix T Cat Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Honey Brook, PA Posts: 557	For what its worth I had a CPR hang on back fuge / skimmer. It allowed me to run a basic skimmer (had good pull of cr*p from the water) and a good size area for a fuge. http://www.marinedepot.com/CPR_AquaF...FIRFEB-vi.html I got mine used from a local reefer for $65

02/12/2010, 10:59 PM	#9
Aquabox Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 42	I would like to hear from others who also run sumpless 40 breeders successfully and what skimmers they use personally.

02/12/2010, 11:14 PM	#10
TwentyTwenty Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: groton, ma. Posts: 185	I use a Tunze 9002 in tank. You can hardly see it. It just blends into the black back ground. Off the top of my head its about 9 inches long an inch deep and 5 inches wide. Pulls out what ever is in there. Just another point of view. Good luck. Mike.

02/13/2010, 06:56 AM	#12
chino402 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 54	i wouldn't run a skimmer for tanks that smaller than 120gl... just do 15-20% water change every 2 week! __________________ who cares it's EXPENSIVE, it makes me HAPPY...