Diamond goby

Grandreef 2 · 02/24/2010, 07:07 AM

I was just wondering if you really nedd an attached refugium to keep a diamond goby in a 55 gallon tank. That is what liveaquaria says.

Nerd1717 · 02/24/2010, 07:12 AM

I have a yellow Headed Sleeper which has somewhat the same requirements in the same size tank, and with how much sand sifting mine does I wouldn't have bought him without having a refugium.

And to be honest, they are fairly easy/cheap to set up and so beneficial, why not use this as an excuse to set one up? If nothing else it hides your skimmer/heater etc.

Grandreef 2 · 02/24/2010, 07:14 AM

I really dont have room for a refugium in my sump so I would have to buy a hang on and those aernt cheap.

Nerd1717 · 02/24/2010, 07:27 AM

Ah I see then. You might be able to depending on how long the tanks been set up, but I don't know where that point is. I do know a lot of these guys starve to death.

Sometimes they eat prepared foods, but I don't believe they get proper nutrition from that alone, like a mandarin but not as extreme, so you're delaying the inevitable.

Just my knowledge from internet reading, I wouldn't trust myself saying one way or the other without a fuge.

foster200 · 02/24/2010, 07:41 AM

my golden head sleeper eats everything. from forzen mysis to flake.

Indymann99 · 02/24/2010, 07:59 AM

Get one that is eating prepared foods. Mine eats everything, mysis, flake, pellet, etc. However my DT now has NO visible pods...

but my sand is clean

Grandreef 2 · 02/24/2010, 08:27 AM

would a AC diamond goby probley eat prepared food, everything at our pet store is AC.

spw4949 · 02/24/2010, 10:40 AM

AC? Aquacultured? I would just ask if it's eating prepared foods.........

Playa-1 · 02/24/2010, 10:58 AM

All the Diamond gobys that I have seen eat just about anything that goes into the tank. I think it will be fine without a fuge.

cloak · 02/24/2010, 11:07 AM

I would never purchase a fish if it wasn't eating various prepared foods. Whether it's a goby, mandarin, anthias, tang, etc. To me, that would be a clear indicator that something might be wrong with the fish, no matter how specialized their feeding habits are.

Bru · 02/24/2010, 11:27 AM

Mine eats up brine shrimp i feed him when i feed my Clowns which is like 2 times a day. As my tank is a little on the small side i may be returning my Goby as i wonder if he has enough to eat in the tank. As well as he is sturring up little particals within the day during the day which is annoying. Besides that the Goby has been doing fine in my current tank without a Sump/Fug.

Siviak · 02/24/2010, 04:18 PM

my golden headed sleeper is pretty big (about 3") and it took her a few days to get comfy enough to come out and play with everyone. She now eats flakes, pellets, frozen food and she STILL sifts sand all day.

LKGRenegade22 · 02/24/2010, 11:20 PM

The only thing you NEED with a diamond is a lid. They love to go carpet surfing. Most diamonds will end up eating prepared foods but try to get one that already is.

mdb_talon · 02/25/2010, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by cloak

I would never purchase a fish if it wasn't eating various prepared foods. Whether it's a goby, mandarin, anthias, tang, etc. To me, that would be a clear indicator that something might be wrong with the fish, no matter how specialized their feeding habits are.

There is nothing "wrong" with a mandarin that wont eat prepared foods, that is just the way they are. Sure some will eat prepared foods, but it is not natural for them to do so. Definetely not a sign something is "wrong" with them though; depending on perspective it may be a sign of what is "right" with them.

cloak · 02/25/2010, 11:25 AM

[QUOTE=mdb_talon;16657517]There is nothing "wrong" with a mandarin that wont eat prepared foods, that is just the way they are. Sure some will eat prepared foods, but it is not natural for them to do so. Definetely not a sign something is "wrong" with them though; depending on perspective it may be a sign of what is "right" with them.[/QUOTE

If you want to play the odds on the mortality rate of a mandarin due to this simple fact, you'll loose. They don't seem to last very long unless you've got a huge tank, and most people don't. That's why prepared foods in their diet is so crucial IMO. There are plenty of threads on keeping mandarins and they all pretty much boil down to one thing, providing them with food. They are a beautiful fish, but I'll continue passing them by at the LFS.

02/24/2010, 07:07 AM	#1
Grandreef 2 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: burlington, vermont Posts: 376	Diamond goby I was just wondering if you really nedd an attached refugium to keep a diamond goby in a 55 gallon tank. That is what liveaquaria says. __________________ Hoping to explore the hadal and abyssal zones one day. Current Tank Info: 55 gallon invert aquarium, 4 65w T% bulbs

02/24/2010, 07:14 AM	#3
Grandreef 2 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: burlington, vermont Posts: 376	I really dont have room for a refugium in my sump so I would have to buy a hang on and those aernt cheap. __________________ Hoping to explore the hadal and abyssal zones one day. Current Tank Info: 55 gallon invert aquarium, 4 65w T% bulbs

02/24/2010, 07:59 AM	#6
Indymann99 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 2,447	Get one that is eating prepared foods. Mine eats everything, mysis, flake, pellet, etc. However my DT now has NO visible pods... but my sand is clean __________________ 120g DT 100lbs LR / 200 lbs LS, 45g fuge, VectraM1 Return, Herbie drain, 4x RW-8, 2x AI Hydra 26 w AWM, ASM G2, Apex controller, Apex BoB w floats ATO

02/24/2010, 08:27 AM	#7
Grandreef 2 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: burlington, vermont Posts: 376	would a AC diamond goby probley eat prepared food, everything at our pet store is AC. __________________ Hoping to explore the hadal and abyssal zones one day. Current Tank Info: 55 gallon invert aquarium, 4 65w T% bulbs

02/24/2010, 10:40 AM	#8
spw4949 Registered Member. Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Albany, N.Y. Posts: 1,594	AC? Aquacultured? I would just ask if it's eating prepared foods......... __________________ Steve Current Tank Info: 46 gal bowfront, mixed reef, 2x250W current outer orbit w/4x39W T5 ,10 gal fuge....38 gallon aggressive FOWLR, 10 gallon sump.

02/24/2010, 07:12 AM	#2
Nerd1717 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 127	I have a yellow Headed Sleeper which has somewhat the same requirements in the same size tank, and with how much sand sifting mine does I wouldn't have bought him without having a refugium. And to be honest, they are fairly easy/cheap to set up and so beneficial, why not use this as an excuse to set one up? If nothing else it hides your skimmer/heater etc.

02/24/2010, 07:27 AM	#4
Nerd1717 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 127	Ah I see then. You might be able to depending on how long the tanks been set up, but I don't know where that point is. I do know a lot of these guys starve to death. Sometimes they eat prepared foods, but I don't believe they get proper nutrition from that alone, like a mandarin but not as extreme, so you're delaying the inevitable. Just my knowledge from internet reading, I wouldn't trust myself saying one way or the other without a fuge.

02/24/2010, 07:41 AM	#5
foster200 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Watkins Glen, NY Posts: 157	my golden head sleeper eats everything. from forzen mysis to flake.

02/24/2010, 10:58 AM	#9
Playa-1 Moved On Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Laguna Niguel, CA Posts: 7,497	All the Diamond gobys that I have seen eat just about anything that goes into the tank. I think it will be fine without a fuge.

02/24/2010, 11:07 AM	#10
cloak Moved On Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Stockton, CA Posts: 14,854	I would never purchase a fish if it wasn't eating various prepared foods. Whether it's a goby, mandarin, anthias, tang, etc. To me, that would be a clear indicator that something might be wrong with the fish, no matter how specialized their feeding habits are.

02/24/2010, 11:27 AM	#11
Bru Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: San Franando Valley Posts: 280	Mine eats up brine shrimp i feed him when i feed my Clowns which is like 2 times a day. As my tank is a little on the small side i may be returning my Goby as i wonder if he has enough to eat in the tank. As well as he is sturring up little particals within the day during the day which is annoying. Besides that the Goby has been doing fine in my current tank without a Sump/Fug. __________________ -Joshua SCRK Member

02/24/2010, 04:18 PM	#12
Siviak Registered Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Southern California Posts: 67	my golden headed sleeper is pretty big (about 3") and it took her a few days to get comfy enough to come out and play with everyone. She now eats flakes, pellets, frozen food and she STILL sifts sand all day. __________________ If I had five cents for every time someone offered me ten cents to keep my two cents to myself... I would be a rich man. Current Tank Info: Three 50 gallon freshwater tanks, two 20 gallon freshwater tanks (nursery tanks) one 85 gallon saltwater tank with 35 gallon sump/refugium

02/24/2010, 11:20 PM	#13
LKGRenegade22 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Littleton, NC Posts: 209	The only thing you NEED with a diamond is a lid. They love to go carpet surfing. Most diamonds will end up eating prepared foods but try to get one that already is.

02/25/2010, 11:25 AM	#15
cloak Moved On Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Stockton, CA Posts: 14,854	[QUOTE=mdb_talon;16657517]There is nothing "wrong" with a mandarin that wont eat prepared foods, that is just the way they are. Sure some will eat prepared foods, but it is not natural for them to do so. Definetely not a sign something is "wrong" with them though; depending on perspective it may be a sign of what is "right" with them.[/QUOTE If you want to play the odds on the mortality rate of a mandarin due to this simple fact, you'll loose. They don't seem to last very long unless you've got a huge tank, and most people don't. That's why prepared foods in their diet is so crucial IMO. There are plenty of threads on keeping mandarins and they all pretty much boil down to one thing, providing them with food. They are a beautiful fish, but I'll continue passing them by at the LFS.