Help with choosing a pump

Fishamatank · 03/02/2010, 09:57 PM

I am in the process of a new build and will be needing a new return pump.

125 G, return pump will supply water to the fuge, and I will tap into the return for reactors.
My 2 main concerns are:
Noise & heat transfer. I don't want to listen to the pump, and I don't want it heating up the water.
I do not need a huge pump, as I don't think water rushing through the sump is necessary. Internal or external - whatever works the best.
I would like to keep the pump under $200

Suggestions?

pangetikaw · 03/02/2010, 10:42 PM

Eheim best in the market quite and low wattage

Fishamatank · 03/02/2010, 10:49 PM

That's what I was thinking, I have a small Eheim, but they don't really seem to be setup for plumbing very well. I would probably hook one up externally to keep the heat out of the tank, they just have barbed fittings right? Doesn't seem ideal for PVC plumbing.

endlessblue · 03/02/2010, 11:04 PM

I can't hear my red dragon!! and Eheim is on my reactor also very silent.

Fishamatank · 03/02/2010, 11:42 PM

I should hope not for that cost. That is a bit out of my budget. Any other ideas?

Equipment Junky · 03/03/2010, 12:05 AM

I have my Eheim 1262 plumbed externally with PVC. It's metric but you can use a 1" threaded fitting for the input of the pump and 3/4" for the output. Just use a bit more teflon tape than you normally would and you'll be good to go.

sjm817 · 03/03/2010, 05:48 AM

The Eheim 1262 is a good bet. Running it externally wont reduce heat though. All submersible pumps are water cooled. The pump is cooled by internal water passages.

You dont have to spend the big $ for a Red Dragon. There are other Askoll 1500 based pumps for much less.

The Askoll Laguna 1500 is a pond pump that can be used for aquarium use. The Askoll is used and modified by several mfgrs such as ATB, MSX, BK (Red Dragon). These are really nice very quiet pumps. You can get the basic Laguna 1500 and MSX 1500 from Marine Solutions
http://www.marinesolutionsinc.com/ca...duct_info.html
http://www.marinesolutionsinc.com/ca...duct_info.html

You can get the ATB Flow Star 1500 from ATB
http://atbskimmers.com/products/larg...%20Star%201500

fishychris · 03/03/2010, 07:37 AM

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pangetikaw · 03/03/2010, 10:24 PM

+ 1 eheim and askoll pumps

Fishamatank · 03/03/2010, 11:11 PM

Looking at the MSX FX1500, looks like a good deal for 229, based on the askol 1500.

Can it be used internally and externally?

sjm817 · 03/03/2010, 11:48 PM

The FX1500 has a custom volute with unions and would be easier to use as an external than the other two.

dwl · 03/04/2010, 11:10 AM

another vote for the Laguna 1500

you can buy a regular Max Flo 1500 for cheap and easily epoxy a PVC fitting on it and you are good to go for a lot less than the ATB, MSX, etc. branded Lagunas.

remember that you can put a valve on the output side and reduce the flow and wattage at the same time too.

good luck

Fishamatank · 03/06/2010, 09:25 AM

Is anyone using the sicce syncra pump that would care to comment on them? I am trying to buy everything for this build form one place to get a discount, and that store just so happens to not carry the laguna / askoll pumps.

I am strongly considering the eheim 1262, but I am concerned that with 6' of head to the main tank, feeding the fuge, and a couple reactors it will not be enough pump. I wish they made a larger pump, the sicce is 1350 gph or so which should be plenty.

Fishamatank · 03/06/2010, 06:56 PM

Looking for info on the Sicce Synchra

03/02/2010, 09:57 PM	#1
Fishamatank Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,017	Help with choosing a pump I am in the process of a new build and will be needing a new return pump. 125 G, return pump will supply water to the fuge, and I will tap into the return for reactors. My 2 main concerns are: Noise & heat transfer. I don't want to listen to the pump, and I don't want it heating up the water. I do not need a huge pump, as I don't think water rushing through the sump is necessary. Internal or external - whatever works the best. I would like to keep the pump under $200 Suggestions?

03/03/2010, 05:48 AM	#7
sjm817 On Yer left! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Northern VA Posts: 18,777	The Eheim 1262 is a good bet. Running it externally wont reduce heat though. All submersible pumps are water cooled. The pump is cooled by internal water passages. You dont have to spend the big $ for a Red Dragon. There are other Askoll 1500 based pumps for much less. The Askoll Laguna 1500 is a pond pump that can be used for aquarium use. The Askoll is used and modified by several mfgrs such as ATB, MSX, BK (Red Dragon). These are really nice very quiet pumps. You can get the basic Laguna 1500 and MSX 1500 from Marine Solutions http://www.marinesolutionsinc.com/ca...duct_info.html http://www.marinesolutionsinc.com/ca...duct_info.html You can get the ATB Flow Star 1500 from ATB http://atbskimmers.com/products/larg...%20Star%201500 __________________ - Scott Last edited by sjm817; 03/03/2010 at 05:54 AM.

03/03/2010, 07:37 AM	#8
fishychris Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 13	Shilling for your website isn't allowed. Your post is in violation of the terms and conditions of use of this web site and has been edited. Further violations will result in revocation of your posting privileges. Last edited by BlueCorn; 03/17/2010 at 09:56 AM.

03/03/2010, 11:48 PM	#11
sjm817 On Yer left! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Northern VA Posts: 18,777	The FX1500 has a custom volute with unions and would be easier to use as an external than the other two. __________________ - Scott

03/02/2010, 10:42 PM	#2
pangetikaw Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: texas Posts: 100	Eheim best in the market quite and low wattage

03/02/2010, 10:49 PM	#3
Fishamatank Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,017	That's what I was thinking, I have a small Eheim, but they don't really seem to be setup for plumbing very well. I would probably hook one up externally to keep the heat out of the tank, they just have barbed fittings right? Doesn't seem ideal for PVC plumbing.

03/02/2010, 11:04 PM	#4
endlessblue Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 381	I can't hear my red dragon!! and Eheim is on my reactor also very silent.

03/02/2010, 11:42 PM	#5
Fishamatank Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,017	I should hope not for that cost. That is a bit out of my budget. Any other ideas?

03/03/2010, 12:05 AM	#6
Equipment Junky Moved On Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 68	I have my Eheim 1262 plumbed externally with PVC. It's metric but you can use a 1" threaded fitting for the input of the pump and 3/4" for the output. Just use a bit more teflon tape than you normally would and you'll be good to go.

03/03/2010, 10:24 PM	#9
pangetikaw Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: texas Posts: 100	+ 1 eheim and askoll pumps

03/03/2010, 11:11 PM	#10
Fishamatank Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,017	Looking at the MSX FX1500, looks like a good deal for 229, based on the askol 1500. Can it be used internally and externally?

03/04/2010, 11:10 AM	#12
dwl Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: mission viejo Posts: 524	another vote for the Laguna 1500 you can buy a regular Max Flo 1500 for cheap and easily epoxy a PVC fitting on it and you are good to go for a lot less than the ATB, MSX, etc. branded Lagunas. remember that you can put a valve on the output side and reduce the flow and wattage at the same time too. good luck

03/06/2010, 09:25 AM	#13
Fishamatank Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,017	Is anyone using the sicce syncra pump that would care to comment on them? I am trying to buy everything for this build form one place to get a discount, and that store just so happens to not carry the laguna / askoll pumps. I am strongly considering the eheim 1262, but I am concerned that with 6' of head to the main tank, feeding the fuge, and a couple reactors it will not be enough pump. I wish they made a larger pump, the sicce is 1350 gph or so which should be plenty.

03/06/2010, 06:56 PM	#14
Fishamatank Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,017	Looking for info on the Sicce Synchra