Can Lighting Cause Cyno?

[sbaddley]

I have a JBJ 28g HQI Nano. About three weeks ago I decided to change my bulb from 10000k to 14000k. I liked the new lighting, but a week after the change I caught a bad case of brown cyno. I reduced my feedings and went from 10 hour lighting to 7 hours—didn’t help much. Last night I put the 10000k bulb back in and the cyno is gone. A coincidence or can different lighting encourage cyno? Note that the LFS sold me some vitamins that I dosed once a week—started the same time I replaced the bulb. I discontinued the vitamins about a week ago. Can vitamins cause cyno?

[rogerwilco357]

so when you have your lights on do you get bubbles forming on your rocks also?

[tkeracer619]

Excess nutrients cause it.

Chances are the combination of the new light intensity and vitamins together caused it.

Why dose vitamins? I wouldn't dose anything you can't test for.

[sbaddley]

Originally Posted by rogerwilco357

so when you have your lights on do you get bubbles forming on your rocks also?

Yes. I had bubbles on rock, corals, and sand--it looked like a bubble machine.

[mthomp]

its bacteria not algae, it does not need lights to grow.

[sbaddley]

Originally Posted by mthomp

its bacteria not algae, it does not need lights to grow.

Even the long (2 -3 inches) brown stringy things? Those grew on my snails, rocks, corals, etc. A Turkey Baster blew them off.

What is the solution for excess bacteria?

[mthomp]

dont feed so much. ill bet you a $1 that if you stopped feeding for 2 days, you will notice a huge decrease. I have given this example many times but it is the best i have.

i was recently incompacitated due to surgery and couldnt do anything but moan and grown and lay in bed. before surgery i had a bad case of cyano break out. now my lights are all on timers so my lighting period never changed but i didnt feed anything for 4 days. cyano was gone.

[sbaddley]

Originally Posted by mthomp

dont feed so much. ill bet you a $1 that if you stopped feeding for 2 days, you will notice a huge decrease. I have given this example many times but it is the best i have.

i was recently incompacitated due to surgery and couldnt do anything but moan and grown and lay in bed. before surgery i had a bad case of cyano break out. now my lights are all on timers so my lighting period never changed but i didnt feed anything for 4 days. cyano was gone.

Thanks for the advise. Sorry it came from a painful experience.

[1sirjustis]

what about our fish? like the tangs and clowns how often should we feed them. i have the same thing long stringy brown slime algea, or bacteria. can heat effect this as well the temp on my tank is like 81

[sbaddley]

Originally Posted by 1sirjustis

what about our fish? like the tangs and clowns how often should we feed them. i have the same thing long stringy brown slime algea, or bacteria. can heat effect this as well the temp on my tank is like 81

I have a chiller and the tank stays at 77* (+/- 1*).

[tkeracer619]

long brown stringy things and bubbles sound more like dino's then cyano.

Pray that it is not.

[allset]

What is dino's and why is"scary"?

[tkeracer619]

Dinoflagellates are some of the hardest things to get rid of. Many reefers have broken down tanks because of it. I spent about 6 months fighting it before I won.

[allset]

I an afraid I have the same problem!I was fighting cyano like crazy and no luck ,I still have this micro bubbles all over my rock!Could you give me any suggestions how to fight this dino's!?

[tkeracer619]

There are many of them to read using google and many first hand experiences on this forum. do a search for them and you will find a lot of info.

Here is a good place to start. A shorter article from a few years back.
http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2006-11/rhf/index.php

[allset]

Thank you for the information tkeracer619 and sorry for stealing your thread sbaddley!

[sbaddley]

Originally Posted by allset

Thank you for the information tkeracer619 and sorry for stealing your thread sbaddley!

No problem. Hope my problem is not Dyno. Still have a few bubbles---nothing like what it was a few days ago and the long brown stringy things have disapeared.

[tkeracer619]

I would not add those vitamins again.

Did you do a water change about the same time as well?

How is your tds for your top off and wc water?

Originally Posted by allset

Thank you for the information tkeracer619

Your welcome

[rklaue]

Wow, maybe that's what happened to mine. Do you have any pictures?

[ruprecht]

Did it look like this?

What was in the "vitamins"? Iron?

[Padrino]

funny you should ask this question.
Cyno can exist in environments where there are low nitrates or high nitrates, i Currently run NP pellets as before i was running vodka for the last 9 months. I found that half way through the vodka i changed up the bulbs experimenting on a giesemann infiniti fixture, I used to have the following when i first set up
Giesemann actinic plus 54W
Giesemann actinic plus 54W
14000K Coral 250 w HQI
14000K Coral 250 w HQI
Giesemann actinic plus 54W
Giesemann actinic plus 54W

I did some experimenting and switched to this
Giesemann actinic plus 54W
Giesemann aquablue special 54W
22000K blue 250 w HQI
22000K blue 250 w HQI
Giesemann aquablue special 54W
Giesemann pure actinic 54W

I noticed that i had cyno outbreak at least three times in perhaps 7 or 8 months. On sunday i swapped out the pure actinic with one of the original actinic plus bulbs and within 2 days there is no more cyno. I feed lots being on a bacteria driven system.

Does this make sense? or conclude anything? not necessarily but i have heard others state that the cyno when away when they changes their lighting.

I read somewhere that once cyno is there, it will adapt to the conditions so if you have high nitrates but then it leveled out, it would adapt for another energy source. I wish i could find this article or thread.

Again, this is only my experience and this was sunday i swapped the bulb out.