very unhappy with hydor evolution 1400

renogaw · 07/08/2010, 09:21 PM

recently purchased the pump, and it ships with a rubber plug installed in the screen on the inside of the housing. the impeller beats on this, making a god awful noise, so i removed it thinking it was just for shipping. well, the unit goes in reverse upon start up, relying on the bumper to make it go in the correct direction. so without the bumper, my pump goes in reverse. with the bumper, it makes a racket and doesn't circulate for beans.

hydor says that it is working as designed, anyone got a fix for this?

Garage1217 · 07/08/2010, 09:36 PM

hmm mine never made a noise other than a slight click at start??? Is the bushing pressed in correctly into the nose piece???

renogaw · 07/08/2010, 09:40 PM

let me check, but i don't think there's a bushing on the nose piece at all, and unfortunately my camera is on vacation in maine till tomorrow...

Garage1217 · 07/08/2010, 09:43 PM

If you take off the cover, there is a black bushing that the prop rides in. One some of the early units, the bushing would pop out causing excess racket .

bussea02 · 07/08/2010, 09:46 PM

Just the other night one of my two 1400's started making a pretty annoying noise too. I cleaned it out thinking it was just full of junk but it's still making a noticable hum/clicking noise. I can ignore it at it's current level, just hope it doesn't get worse.

Edit - mine has one of the newer bushings

renogaw · 07/08/2010, 10:06 PM

no, mine does not have a bushing at the end of the nose. all it has is the rubber bumper on the inside of the housing and it chatters like mad when it runs. i take the bumper out and noise goes away, but it can run in reverse. sorry about my mad video skills, but here's what i'm talking about:

Garage1217 · 07/08/2010, 10:08 PM

Bushing is behind the prop, apart of the prop assembly that pulls out.

renogaw · 07/08/2010, 10:14 PM

ok, i'm not sure if the bushing is there, but while looking at that housing, i noticed the propeller was not on all the way, was up about 1/4" because it was not put on the hex shaft properly. just moved it around, pushed it in all the way, and voila, it's not noisy anymore. thanks for the help

Triple_B · 07/13/2010, 08:42 AM

lol I had two 1400's arrive in the mail yesterday and I was up all night with the same problem... came to the exact same conclusion as well. haha I felt like such a goob.

cody6766 · 07/13/2010, 10:20 AM

depending on the model, you may still need to order new bushings from Hydor. They offer them for free, so you're only out the effort of an email and install. Mine began to start backwards after a short while on a wave maker, so I ordered the bushings today. I don't have anymore info than that on the subject.

renogaw · 07/13/2010, 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triple_B

lol I had two 1400's arrive in the mail yesterday and I was up all night with the same problem... came to the exact same conclusion as well. haha I felt like such a goob.

glad i could limit your frustration heh

impur · 07/13/2010, 11:33 AM

If you run your tank with high alk/calcium these will stop very frequently. Mine do not run for more than 8 days, sometimes they stop after 3. Then i have to soak the bushings in vinegar. This design is terrible.

reefdiction · 02/28/2011, 08:29 PM

I just got 2 of the 1400 and they make clicking noise on Startup. It is scaring the fish. I want to order 2 more but not with the noise. Anyone have a picture showing the location of the busing. It does not seem that I have one.

impur · 03/01/2011, 10:46 AM

I don't have pictures but one bushing is in the pump at the bottom of the hole where the impeller goes in, the other is inside that fin looking thing that holds the impeller into the pump.

reefdiction · 03/02/2011, 08:45 AM

I see them. It is funny that they cant resolve the issue with the noise. Their should be a fix. I dont understand. I think if the busing is thicker the problem will be resolved. I moved the one on theimpeller up and it resuced the noise. I run them on red sea wavemaker but after few on and off the bushing slid back in its olace an noise came back. I was thinking of buying 2 more but with the noise I might opt to try Marineland Maxikjet 1200 pro. It is also half the price. I spoke to Marineland and they state that you can put them on a wavemaker you just have to make sure that the props are clean all the time.

Eldredge · 03/02/2011, 09:52 AM

I am looking to add a little more flow to my 125 without spending too much. The powerhead will be turned off and on two or three times a day, so a click on startup wouldn't be too big of a deal, but running backwards would be. Is there a way to know if a particular power head is a new model? Or, is it just a matter of changing the bushing if it is an old one?

Would you guys still use the Evo 1400 all thinks considered?

reefdiction · 03/02/2011, 01:22 PM

Find someone that has them that is local and maybe listen to them. The noise is not bothering me it is just that you spend money and you expect better quality. Their older models did not have an issue an they are still running in my tank. Tryy it and see. Maybe order one and if you dont like it thern return it or sell it.

paraphish · 03/03/2011, 01:04 PM

Ditch 'em and get MP40s

07/08/2010, 09:21 PM	#1
renogaw Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: North Granby (beyond the boonies and sticks..) Posts: 2,608	very unhappy with hydor evolution 1400 recently purchased the pump, and it ships with a rubber plug installed in the screen on the inside of the housing. the impeller beats on this, making a god awful noise, so i removed it thinking it was just for shipping. well, the unit goes in reverse upon start up, relying on the bumper to make it go in the correct direction. so without the bumper, my pump goes in reverse. with the bumper, it makes a racket and doesn't circulate for beans. hydor says that it is working as designed, anyone got a fix for this?

07/08/2010, 09:36 PM	#2
Garage1217 GET OFF MY LAWN Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Globally Posts: 5,863	hmm mine never made a noise other than a slight click at start??? Is the bushing pressed in correctly into the nose piece??? __________________ No great genius has ever existed without some touch of madness ~ Aristotle If we knew what it was we were doing, it would not be called research, would it? ~ Albert Einstein I'm just as bent as ever. Hellishly so ~ Captain Jack Sparrow Current Tank Info: Systems and goodies by Lee-Mar / Coralvue / Neptune Systems / Jager / Spectrapure / Cree / Meanwell + more!

07/08/2010, 09:43 PM	#4
Garage1217 GET OFF MY LAWN Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Globally Posts: 5,863	If you take off the cover, there is a black bushing that the prop rides in. One some of the early units, the bushing would pop out causing excess racket . __________________ No great genius has ever existed without some touch of madness ~ Aristotle If we knew what it was we were doing, it would not be called research, would it? ~ Albert Einstein I'm just as bent as ever. Hellishly so ~ Captain Jack Sparrow Current Tank Info: Systems and goodies by Lee-Mar / Coralvue / Neptune Systems / Jager / Spectrapure / Cree / Meanwell + more!

07/08/2010, 10:08 PM	#7
Garage1217 GET OFF MY LAWN Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Globally Posts: 5,863	Bushing is behind the prop, apart of the prop assembly that pulls out. __________________ No great genius has ever existed without some touch of madness ~ Aristotle If we knew what it was we were doing, it would not be called research, would it? ~ Albert Einstein I'm just as bent as ever. Hellishly so ~ Captain Jack Sparrow Current Tank Info: Systems and goodies by Lee-Mar / Coralvue / Neptune Systems / Jager / Spectrapure / Cree / Meanwell + more!

07/13/2010, 10:20 AM	#10
cody6766 Super Best Friends! Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: OKC, OK Posts: 3,772	depending on the model, you may still need to order new bushings from Hydor. They offer them for free, so you're only out the effort of an email and install. Mine began to start backwards after a short while on a wave maker, so I ordered the bushings today. I don't have anymore info than that on the subject. __________________ "The moral is the chosen, not the forced; the understood, not the obeyed. The moral is the rational, and reason accepts no commandments." - John Galt Current Tank Info: Cadlights 60G Arisan II mixed reef with 2x MP40s and 24" ATI

07/08/2010, 09:40 PM	#3
renogaw Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: North Granby (beyond the boonies and sticks..) Posts: 2,608	let me check, but i don't think there's a bushing on the nose piece at all, and unfortunately my camera is on vacation in maine till tomorrow...

07/08/2010, 09:46 PM	#5
bussea02 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: NE Wisconsin Posts: 46	Just the other night one of my two 1400's started making a pretty annoying noise too. I cleaned it out thinking it was just full of junk but it's still making a noticable hum/clicking noise. I can ignore it at it's current level, just hope it doesn't get worse. Edit - mine has one of the newer bushings

07/08/2010, 10:06 PM	#6
renogaw Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: North Granby (beyond the boonies and sticks..) Posts: 2,608	no, mine does not have a bushing at the end of the nose. all it has is the rubber bumper on the inside of the housing and it chatters like mad when it runs. i take the bumper out and noise goes away, but it can run in reverse. sorry about my mad video skills, but here's what i'm talking about:

07/08/2010, 10:14 PM	#8
renogaw Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: North Granby (beyond the boonies and sticks..) Posts: 2,608	ok, i'm not sure if the bushing is there, but while looking at that housing, i noticed the propeller was not on all the way, was up about 1/4" because it was not put on the hex shaft properly. just moved it around, pushed it in all the way, and voila, it's not noisy anymore. thanks for the help

07/13/2010, 08:42 AM	#9
Triple_B Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Oklahoma City Posts: 343	lol I had two 1400's arrive in the mail yesterday and I was up all night with the same problem... came to the exact same conclusion as well. haha I felt like such a goob.

07/13/2010, 11:33 AM	#12
impur Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Eugene, OR Posts: 4,262	If you run your tank with high alk/calcium these will stop very frequently. Mine do not run for more than 8 days, sometimes they stop after 3. Then i have to soak the bushings in vinegar. This design is terrible. __________________ Great spirits often encounter violent opposition from mediocre minds. Current Tank Info: 75gal, 20gal sump, 6-54w T5 TEK

02/28/2011, 08:29 PM	#13
reefdiction Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 52	I just got 2 of the 1400 and they make clicking noise on Startup. It is scaring the fish. I want to order 2 more but not with the noise. Anyone have a picture showing the location of the busing. It does not seem that I have one.

03/01/2011, 10:46 AM	#14
impur Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Eugene, OR Posts: 4,262	I don't have pictures but one bushing is in the pump at the bottom of the hole where the impeller goes in, the other is inside that fin looking thing that holds the impeller into the pump. __________________ Great spirits often encounter violent opposition from mediocre minds. Current Tank Info: 75gal, 20gal sump, 6-54w T5 TEK

03/02/2011, 08:45 AM	#15
reefdiction Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 52	I see them. It is funny that they cant resolve the issue with the noise. Their should be a fix. I dont understand. I think if the busing is thicker the problem will be resolved. I moved the one on theimpeller up and it resuced the noise. I run them on red sea wavemaker but after few on and off the bushing slid back in its olace an noise came back. I was thinking of buying 2 more but with the noise I might opt to try Marineland Maxikjet 1200 pro. It is also half the price. I spoke to Marineland and they state that you can put them on a wavemaker you just have to make sure that the props are clean all the time. Last edited by reefdiction; 03/02/2011 at 09:02 AM.

03/02/2011, 09:52 AM	#16
Eldredge Registered Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Eagle, Idaho Posts: 306	I am looking to add a little more flow to my 125 without spending too much. The powerhead will be turned off and on two or three times a day, so a click on startup wouldn't be too big of a deal, but running backwards would be. Is there a way to know if a particular power head is a new model? Or, is it just a matter of changing the bushing if it is an old one? Would you guys still use the Evo 1400 all thinks considered?

03/02/2011, 01:22 PM	#17
reefdiction Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 52	Find someone that has them that is local and maybe listen to them. The noise is not bothering me it is just that you spend money and you expect better quality. Their older models did not have an issue an they are still running in my tank. Tryy it and see. Maybe order one and if you dont like it thern return it or sell it.

03/03/2011, 01:04 PM	#18
paraphish Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Ft. Wayne, IN Posts: 52	Ditch 'em and get MP40s

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