Emerald Crab dead as soon as I put him in

cnl83 · 08/27/2010, 01:40 PM

Ok have a 55 Gallon tank its about 5-6 weeks old. API test kit said everything was good to go. I had a bunch of Algae that I needed taken care of. I bought two emerald crabs. I put them in the tank, and one ran straight to the algae and started munching. The other one stayed in the exact spot it fell. I saw his mouth moving a lil bit, and then 20 minutes later, it is sure dead. I took him out of the tank, and it is dead.

What are the chances that happening so fast?!

Do I need other chemicals in my tank?

KeMo · 08/27/2010, 01:50 PM

When you got him was he active ? Did you acclimate them? Inverts need to be acclimated aswell .
Chances are he was in badd shape when you got him if you did everything right acclimating wize.

cnl83 · 08/27/2010, 01:56 PM

I put the bag in the water for about 15 minutes. I didnt do the drip as I did not what that meant.

The other crab seems to be moving around well. To bad the big one died.

Ohiomom · 08/27/2010, 02:01 PM

You really should read up on drip acclimation it is easy..you need to get the water in the bag to be the same parameters as the water in your tank and this is the way to do it.. hope the other one stays healthy for you but read up on it..it will save a lot of grief in the future.

KeMo · 08/27/2010, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ohiomom

You really should read up on drip acclimation it is easy..you need to get the water in the bag to be the same parameters as the water in your tank and this is the way to do it.. hope the other one stays healthy for you but read up on it..it will save a lot of grief in the future.

Yea you need to or you are going to lose 80% or more of livestock.

cnl83 · 08/27/2010, 02:08 PM

How do you drip?

Ohiomom · 08/27/2010, 02:22 PM

http://www.aquacon.com/chat.html

the search function will be your best friend..that and google..hth

cnl83 · 08/27/2010, 02:33 PM

Thanks!

DustinB · 08/27/2010, 02:54 PM

You don't really have to drip, I never have, at least not in the true sense.

I open the bag and cut it down a few inches above the water line. Place the bag in the water and wedge one side in the canopy or tape it to the edge of the tank. Wait about 20 minutes for temp to start acclimating. Then get a small cup and pour a couple teaspoons of the tank water in from a few inches up to also help aerate the water. I do this every 5-10 minutes for 40 min to an hour.

I do this with every invert, especially snails. For fish I will just float them and check the salinity of the water they are in. If the salinity is more than .001 off I will go ahead and do the above for the fish too, otherwise just a 30 min temp acclimation and drop them in.

No problem! Never had a loss.

SWINGRRRR · 08/27/2010, 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DustinB

You don't really have to drip, I never have, at least not in the true sense.
I open the bag and cut it down a few inches above the water line. Place the bag in the water and wedge one side in the canopy or tape it to the edge of the tank. Wait about 20 minutes for temp to start acclimating. Then get a small cup and pour a couple teaspoons of the tank water in from a few inches up to also help aerate the water. I do this every 5-10 minutes for 40 min to an hour.
I do this with every invert, especially snails. For fish I will just float them and check the salinity of the water they are in. If the salinity is more than .001 off I will go ahead and do the above for the fish too, otherwise just a 30 min temp acclimation and drop them in.
No problem! Never had a loss.

Pretty much the same here, except I’ve had losses. Things just die sometimes. You could do everything in the world correct, and that particular specimen can’t handle the stress. Reef long enough, and you'll have losses.

Mavrk · 08/27/2010, 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DustinB

You don't really have to drip, I never have, at least not in the true sense.

I open the bag and cut it down a few inches above the water line. Place the bag in the water and wedge one side in the canopy or tape it to the edge of the tank. Wait about 20 minutes for temp to start acclimating. Then get a small cup and pour a couple teaspoons of the tank water in from a few inches up to also help aerate the water. I do this every 5-10 minutes for 40 min to an hour.

I do this with every invert, especially snails. For fish I will just float them and check the salinity of the water they are in. If the salinity is more than .001 off I will go ahead and do the above for the fish too, otherwise just a 30 min temp acclimation and drop them in.

No problem! Never had a loss.

Yeah, there are other methods besides drip, and that is one of them. Just floating the bag only acclimates to the temperature. But most likely the salinity and pH are going to be really different. So you need to slowly change the water over to your tank water. I think dripping is the easiest for me.

qfrisco · 08/30/2010, 01:29 PM

I always drip over at least a 6 hour period, but it really depends on how far off the parameters of the bag water are from my tank water. For example, one time, I had purchased a fish from my LFS. I checked the salinity of the water and it was at 1.017!!! I keep my tank at 1.026. Doing the acclimation method described above, while fine for the most part, would have shocked the fish.

So now I always drip, but I first check the params of the bag water, mainly just the SG. If the difference is more then 0.003, than I go much, much slower - in one severe case over a twelve hour period to acclimate those guys. I acclimate in a styrofoam cooler in order to preserve the water temp.

theatrus · 08/30/2010, 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DustinB

You don't really have to drip, I never have, at least not in the true sense.

I open the bag and cut it down a few inches above the water line. Place the bag in the water and wedge one side in the canopy or tape it to the edge of the tank. Wait about 20 minutes for temp to start acclimating. Then get a small cup and pour a couple teaspoons of the tank water in from a few inches up to also help aerate the water. I do this every 5-10 minutes for 40 min to an hour.

I do this with every invert, especially snails. For fish I will just float them and check the salinity of the water they are in. If the salinity is more than .001 off I will go ahead and do the above for the fish too, otherwise just a 30 min temp acclimation and drop them in.

No problem! Never had a loss.

I've never had a direct loss with this method.

In many cases, the quality of water in the bag is terrible, and its better, in my opinion, to move the specimen out of the bag and into the tank "quickly" (never more than an hour acclimating). The acclimation is only there to prevent shock.

08/27/2010, 01:40 PM	#1
cnl83 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 140	Emerald Crab dead as soon as I put him in Ok have a 55 Gallon tank its about 5-6 weeks old. API test kit said everything was good to go. I had a bunch of Algae that I needed taken care of. I bought two emerald crabs. I put them in the tank, and one ran straight to the algae and started munching. The other one stayed in the exact spot it fell. I saw his mouth moving a lil bit, and then 20 minutes later, it is sure dead. I took him out of the tank, and it is dead. What are the chances that happening so fast?! Do I need other chemicals in my tank?

08/27/2010, 01:50 PM	#2
KeMo Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Toronto Posts: 357	When you got him was he active ? Did you acclimate them? Inverts need to be acclimated aswell . Chances are he was in badd shape when you got him if you did everything right acclimating wize. __________________ 39Gal Reef Tank. 40 Lbs Fiji LR , 25 Lbs Fiji LS DeltecMce600,MP10-es Specs-ph8.0-8.3,salinity1.024-6,calcium450,alkalinity,8.4-9.4,magnesium1400.Temp.77-78 Blue Mandarin,BTA,Mushroom,ToadStool,Torch,cuc Current Tank Info: 30 gal Reef

08/27/2010, 02:01 PM	#4
Ohiomom Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 1,586	You really should read up on drip acclimation it is easy..you need to get the water in the bag to be the same parameters as the water in your tank and this is the way to do it.. hope the other one stays healthy for you but read up on it..it will save a lot of grief in the future. __________________ .....Sandra “Being happy doesn't mean that everything is perfect. It means that you've decided to look beyond the imperfections.” Current Tank Info: 75 galllon reef, T5HO love em!

08/27/2010, 02:22 PM	#7
Ohiomom Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 1,586	http://www.aquacon.com/chat.html the search function will be your best friend..that and google..hth __________________ .....Sandra “Being happy doesn't mean that everything is perfect. It means that you've decided to look beyond the imperfections.” Current Tank Info: 75 galllon reef, T5HO love em!

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08/27/2010, 01:56 PM	#3
cnl83 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 140	I put the bag in the water for about 15 minutes. I didnt do the drip as I did not what that meant. The other crab seems to be moving around well. To bad the big one died.

08/27/2010, 02:08 PM	#6
cnl83 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 140	How do you drip?

08/27/2010, 02:33 PM	#8
cnl83 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 140	Thanks!

08/27/2010, 02:54 PM	#9
DustinB Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Texas Posts: 1,532	You don't really have to drip, I never have, at least not in the true sense. I open the bag and cut it down a few inches above the water line. Place the bag in the water and wedge one side in the canopy or tape it to the edge of the tank. Wait about 20 minutes for temp to start acclimating. Then get a small cup and pour a couple teaspoons of the tank water in from a few inches up to also help aerate the water. I do this every 5-10 minutes for 40 min to an hour. I do this with every invert, especially snails. For fish I will just float them and check the salinity of the water they are in. If the salinity is more than .001 off I will go ahead and do the above for the fish too, otherwise just a 30 min temp acclimation and drop them in. No problem! Never had a loss.

08/30/2010, 01:29 PM	#12
qfrisco Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Dallas, TX Area Posts: 1,389	I always drip over at least a 6 hour period, but it really depends on how far off the parameters of the bag water are from my tank water. For example, one time, I had purchased a fish from my LFS. I checked the salinity of the water and it was at 1.017!!! I keep my tank at 1.026. Doing the acclimation method described above, while fine for the most part, would have shocked the fish. So now I always drip, but I first check the params of the bag water, mainly just the SG. If the difference is more then 0.003, than I go much, much slower - in one severe case over a twelve hour period to acclimate those guys. I acclimate in a styrofoam cooler in order to preserve the water temp.