dart plumbing question?

RobbReef · 01/14/2011, 11:18 PM

Is it possible to plumb up my return pump without drilling my tank? like running pvc over and into the sump? Any suggestions for me please.

Charfish · 01/15/2011, 05:45 PM

same question...

LIReefer · 01/15/2011, 06:55 PM

Where do you plan on pulling the water from? If it's a sump below your tank you can just plumb to the bottom of the sump and return to the tank over the top as you indicated. Make sure you drill a small hole in the return line just below your desired water level to avoid a siphon during a power outage or when the pump is not in operation.

RobbReef · 01/15/2011, 08:42 PM

I was planning on puting a 90 at the front and a horse shoe up and over into the sump?

viggen · 01/15/2011, 09:13 PM

I wouldn't, if you do not want to drill the tank you need a overflow box, much safer getting a overflow box for your tank that is designed to not loose siphon when the power goes out & for that matter keeping siphon when the tank is running

Going up & over with PVC works if you are doing a CL but I wouldn't if you are going to feed the sump.

dahenley · 01/15/2011, 09:22 PM

yes you can do that. the hard part is getting it primed. (just use a powerhead and force water in the intake.
once its primed for the first time, your set.

i know a few people that have done it with different pumps. (iwaki's and other external pumps.

viggen · 01/15/2011, 11:12 PM

getting it primed is easy.... it's just what if it looses siphon when you are not home......

When I did a CL setup that way I just stuck a airline tube in the pipe & sucked some of the air out....easy to do & since it's a CL it didn't matter if the power goes out.

maybe I am misreading the question

RobbReef · 01/16/2011, 09:06 PM

Im tryin to run it as a return pump not a CL. water is already feed to the sump by the drains. my only thing is i didnt want to drill my glass sump. So would this work? what are your pros and cons? Thank you agiain

RobbReef · 01/18/2011, 09:36 PM

Here is what i was trying to explain is this possible?

01/14/2011, 11:18 PM	#1
RobbReef Moved On Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 114	dart plumbing question? Is it possible to plumb up my return pump without drilling my tank? like running pvc over and into the sump? Any suggestions for me please.

01/15/2011, 06:55 PM	#3
LIReefer Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: East Meadow, NY Posts: 488	Where do you plan on pulling the water from? If it's a sump below your tank you can just plumb to the bottom of the sump and return to the tank over the top as you indicated. Make sure you drill a small hole in the return line just below your desired water level to avoid a siphon during a power outage or when the pump is not in operation. __________________ - Ed Current Tank Info: 325 gal in-wall, 200g sump w/refugium. 4 VorTech MP60's, Neptune Sky’s, Lifereef Skimmer, Complete Apex systems

01/15/2011, 09:22 PM	#6
dahenley Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Lubbock, Tx Posts: 3,165	yes you can do that. the hard part is getting it primed. (just use a powerhead and force water in the intake. once its primed for the first time, your set. i know a few people that have done it with different pumps. (iwaki's and other external pumps. __________________ Its not just my tank, its OUR tank!!! :-) 240display, reef in progress Current Tank Info: 240 display, a few frags here and there. lots of fish, and lots of watching. (230 big screen getting re-sealed and going to add to the gallonage) My wife has no clue how addicted i really am.....

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01/15/2011, 05:45 PM	#2
Charfish Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: As far from a coast as I can be. Posts: 144	same question...

01/15/2011, 08:42 PM	#4
RobbReef Moved On Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 114	I was planning on puting a 90 at the front and a horse shoe up and over into the sump?

01/15/2011, 09:13 PM	#5
viggen Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Dayton, Ohio Posts: 2,213	I wouldn't, if you do not want to drill the tank you need a overflow box, much safer getting a overflow box for your tank that is designed to not loose siphon when the power goes out & for that matter keeping siphon when the tank is running Going up & over with PVC works if you are doing a CL but I wouldn't if you are going to feed the sump.

01/15/2011, 11:12 PM	#7
viggen Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Dayton, Ohio Posts: 2,213	getting it primed is easy.... it's just what if it looses siphon when you are not home...... When I did a CL setup that way I just stuck a airline tube in the pipe & sucked some of the air out....easy to do & since it's a CL it didn't matter if the power goes out. maybe I am misreading the question

01/16/2011, 09:06 PM	#8
RobbReef Moved On Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 114	Im tryin to run it as a return pump not a CL. water is already feed to the sump by the drains. my only thing is i didnt want to drill my glass sump. So would this work? what are your pros and cons? Thank you agiain