Need Help

pkane11384 · 03/03/2011, 06:38 PM

My buddy and I came to find his fox face stuck on the bottom of his powerhead. Looking at him it he looks fine on one side but pretty ragged on the other. Some of the yellow on his body seems to be gone and his eye is bulging. What should I do to help him recuperate? He doesnt have a QT tank and the only other tank he has is maybe 5-10 gallons but a filter that has been running fresh water for the last year. What do we do? We dont want this fish to die!!!!!!

saltymight · 03/03/2011, 06:53 PM

What ever you can. use the 5-10 gallon tank with no flow minus the filter. Running it with fresh water for a year wont matter. you need to min the stress as much as possible. keep the lights off of the tank also and give him a couple of pieces of PVC to hide in.

pkane11384 · 03/03/2011, 06:59 PM

I dont have any pvc

pkane11384 · 03/03/2011, 07:09 PM

I might have pvc i'm not too sure. I have to see

pkane11384 · 03/03/2011, 07:18 PM

No PVC. Dont know what to do

pkane11384 · 03/03/2011, 07:33 PM

Thats the damage
http://s1131.photobucket.com/albums/...rent=photo.jpg

Lynnmw1208 · 03/03/2011, 07:44 PM

I'd say get a 10 gallon tank, they're pretty cheap and some pvc elbows from home depot and put in some melafix marine to help him heal in the QT. keep lights off to help him de-stress

saltymight · 03/03/2011, 07:46 PM

He doesnt look to bad. What else is in the tank. IF anyone starts picking on him or he is not able to feed you will have to get him out.

pkane11384 · 03/03/2011, 07:46 PM

Only thing I have is a 5 and wont PVC float?

saltymight · 03/03/2011, 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lynnmw1208

I'd say get a 10 gallon tank, they're pretty cheap and some pvc elbows from home depot and put in some melafix marine to help him heal in the QT. keep lights off to help him de-stress

What about some anti-bacteria stuff just to help protect against infection?

pkane11384 · 03/03/2011, 07:50 PM

The only other thing in the tank with him are two ocellaris clowns

sunil6784 · 03/03/2011, 07:58 PM

Mine did that... 2 days later he died..

If there is no QT tank available, I would reduce the flow as much as possible, just so the surface is agitated for gas exchange. Try to reduce the stress for him as much as possible. He probably won't eat because he's all stressed out tonight, but definitely try to get him some vitamin soaked food ASAP.

saltymight · 03/03/2011, 08:00 PM

keep your lights out for a couple of days than put the blue atinics on for a couple of days to reduce stress.

pkane11384 · 03/03/2011, 09:46 PM

Well thank god Petco is open late. Went and bought a 10 gallon tank and the melafix. Hopefully this guy is going to be ok. I have him in a room that isnt used too often so the lights in the room will be off for most of the time. Now I guess we wait

FearTheTerps · 03/04/2011, 12:06 AM

You may want to consider why the fish was stuck to the powerhead in the first place. A healthy fish should be able to swim away from a powerhead.

koby325 · 03/04/2011, 12:37 AM

As soon as his stress lessens make sure to feed him several times a day.

koby325 · 03/04/2011, 12:40 AM

I had picked up a powder brown and it had ich i had it in a qt tank and fed several times a day both mysis and brine along with glarlic enriched nori and in a week he healed and left him in qt for 3 more weeks and he is fine now color came back on the side that he was scratching so bad it was white.... If the stress is removed and they are fed heavily they are remarkably hardy.

saltymight · 03/04/2011, 12:50 AM

Just keep us posted i would like to hear a good ending man

pkane11384 · 03/04/2011, 05:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FearTheTerps

You may want to consider why the fish was stuck to the powerhead in the first place. A healthy fish should be able to swim away from a powerhead.

The powerhead had no filter on it for some reason. Filter was floating but I still dont know why he was stuck. He's going stuck on the intake for the filter as well before

pkane11384 · 03/04/2011, 05:37 AM

This morning he is still alive but seems very stressed. Sitting behind his hiding spot camouflaged with his fins up. Going to try and feed him a little later on and see if he goes for it

pkane11384 · 03/04/2011, 07:06 AM

Hey guys quick question. The fox is very active this morning but very pale in color. I tried to feed him seaweed on a clip but he ignored it. Tried some flake and ignored it. Do you think besides the melafix that I should add some stress coat? Just want some opinions

pkane11384 · 03/04/2011, 11:43 AM

Bump

Sk8r · 03/04/2011, 11:50 AM

pallor is camo. He may go total camo. If he won't eat nori, try frozen mysis or Formula Two. Fish often don't take to nori right off, and if nori was what he was supposed to have been eating, then he may have actually not been eating, ergo weakness. That's one bennie of a qt tank; you definitely know if they're not eating well. Few rabbits will turn down frozen mysis or dried krill.

pkane11384 · 03/04/2011, 12:00 PM

Just bought frozen mysis. So we'll see if goes for that. Just waiting for it to thaw out.

Sk8r · 03/04/2011, 12:02 PM

Thaw one cube at a time in a little dish of tank water. One cube is enough for about 4 small fishes.

03/03/2011, 06:38 PM	#1
pkane11384 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: New York Posts: 323	Need Help My buddy and I came to find his fox face stuck on the bottom of his powerhead. Looking at him it he looks fine on one side but pretty ragged on the other. Some of the yellow on his body seems to be gone and his eye is bulging. What should I do to help him recuperate? He doesnt have a QT tank and the only other tank he has is maybe 5-10 gallons but a filter that has been running fresh water for the last year. What do we do? We dont want this fish to die!!!!!!

03/03/2011, 07:44 PM	#7
Lynnmw1208 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Brunswick, Ohio Posts: 3,306	I'd say get a 10 gallon tank, they're pretty cheap and some pvc elbows from home depot and put in some melafix marine to help him heal in the QT. keep lights off to help him de-stress __________________ equipment: Eshopps psk-200 skimmer, Mag 12 pump, 30gal sump, 2x 300w Finnex heaters, glass-holes 1500gph overflow kit with 3/4" return kits, 72" 8x36w t-5 AquaticLife light, 66lbs of LR, 150lbs of tropic eden reeflakes, 2 Koralia Evo 1400, JBJ ATO, BRS dual GFO/carbon reactors, Hydor smartwave Current Tank Info: 125gallon

03/04/2011, 11:50 AM	#23
Sk8r RC Mod Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 34,628 Blog Entries: 55	pallor is camo. He may go total camo. If he won't eat nori, try frozen mysis or Formula Two. Fish often don't take to nori right off, and if nori was what he was supposed to have been eating, then he may have actually not been eating, ergo weakness. That's one bennie of a qt tank; you definitely know if they're not eating well. Few rabbits will turn down frozen mysis or dried krill. __________________ Sk8r Salinity 1.024-6; alkalinity 8.3-9.3 on KH scale; calcium 420; magnesium 1300, temp 78-80, nitrate .2. Ammonia 0. No filters: lps tank. Alk and cal won't rise if mg is low. Current Tank Info: 105g AquaVim wedge, yellow tang, sailfin blenny,royal gramma, ocellaris clown pair, yellow watchman, 100 microceriths, 25 tiny hermits, a 4" conch, 1" nassarius, recovering from 2 year hiatus with daily water change of 10%.

03/04/2011, 12:02 PM	#25
Sk8r RC Mod Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 34,628 Blog Entries: 55	Thaw one cube at a time in a little dish of tank water. One cube is enough for about 4 small fishes. __________________ Sk8r Salinity 1.024-6; alkalinity 8.3-9.3 on KH scale; calcium 420; magnesium 1300, temp 78-80, nitrate .2. Ammonia 0. No filters: lps tank. Alk and cal won't rise if mg is low. Current Tank Info: 105g AquaVim wedge, yellow tang, sailfin blenny,royal gramma, ocellaris clown pair, yellow watchman, 100 microceriths, 25 tiny hermits, a 4" conch, 1" nassarius, recovering from 2 year hiatus with daily water change of 10%.

03/03/2011, 06:53 PM	#2
saltymight Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Clay, Ny Posts: 860	What ever you can. use the 5-10 gallon tank with no flow minus the filter. Running it with fresh water for a year wont matter. you need to min the stress as much as possible. keep the lights off of the tank also and give him a couple of pieces of PVC to hide in.

03/03/2011, 06:59 PM	#3
pkane11384 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: New York Posts: 323	I dont have any pvc

03/03/2011, 07:09 PM	#4
pkane11384 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: New York Posts: 323	I might have pvc i'm not too sure. I have to see

03/03/2011, 07:18 PM	#5
pkane11384 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: New York Posts: 323	No PVC. Dont know what to do

03/03/2011, 07:33 PM	#6
pkane11384 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: New York Posts: 323	Thats the damage http://s1131.photobucket.com/albums/...rent=photo.jpg

03/03/2011, 07:46 PM	#8
saltymight Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Clay, Ny Posts: 860	He doesnt look to bad. What else is in the tank. IF anyone starts picking on him or he is not able to feed you will have to get him out.

03/03/2011, 07:50 PM	#11
pkane11384 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: New York Posts: 323	The only other thing in the tank with him are two ocellaris clowns

03/03/2011, 07:58 PM	#12
sunil6784 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Providence, RI Posts: 280	Mine did that... 2 days later he died.. If there is no QT tank available, I would reduce the flow as much as possible, just so the surface is agitated for gas exchange. Try to reduce the stress for him as much as possible. He probably won't eat because he's all stressed out tonight, but definitely try to get him some vitamin soaked food ASAP.

03/03/2011, 08:00 PM	#13
saltymight Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Clay, Ny Posts: 860	keep your lights out for a couple of days than put the blue atinics on for a couple of days to reduce stress.

03/03/2011, 09:46 PM	#14
pkane11384 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: New York Posts: 323	Well thank god Petco is open late. Went and bought a 10 gallon tank and the melafix. Hopefully this guy is going to be ok. I have him in a room that isnt used too often so the lights in the room will be off for most of the time. Now I guess we wait

03/04/2011, 12:06 AM	#15
FearTheTerps Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Hagerstown, Maryland Posts: 87	You may want to consider why the fish was stuck to the powerhead in the first place. A healthy fish should be able to swim away from a powerhead.

03/04/2011, 12:37 AM	#16
koby325 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 64	As soon as his stress lessens make sure to feed him several times a day.

03/04/2011, 12:40 AM	#17
koby325 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 64	I had picked up a powder brown and it had ich i had it in a qt tank and fed several times a day both mysis and brine along with glarlic enriched nori and in a week he healed and left him in qt for 3 more weeks and he is fine now color came back on the side that he was scratching so bad it was white.... If the stress is removed and they are fed heavily they are remarkably hardy.

03/04/2011, 12:50 AM	#18
saltymight Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Clay, Ny Posts: 860	Just keep us posted i would like to hear a good ending man

03/04/2011, 05:37 AM	#20
pkane11384 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: New York Posts: 323	This morning he is still alive but seems very stressed. Sitting behind his hiding spot camouflaged with his fins up. Going to try and feed him a little later on and see if he goes for it

03/04/2011, 07:06 AM	#21
pkane11384 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: New York Posts: 323	Hey guys quick question. The fox is very active this morning but very pale in color. I tried to feed him seaweed on a clip but he ignored it. Tried some flake and ignored it. Do you think besides the melafix that I should add some stress coat? Just want some opinions

03/04/2011, 11:43 AM	#22
pkane11384 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: New York Posts: 323	Bump

03/04/2011, 12:00 PM	#24
pkane11384 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: New York Posts: 323	Just bought frozen mysis. So we'll see if goes for that. Just waiting for it to thaw out.