radioactive birdnest losing its green

dnsfpl · 03/15/2011, 08:49 AM

[IMG]http://i56.*******.com/2ugdo43.jpg[/IMG]

dear sps guru

my bn color looks similar to the "green text" color

it is growing, but losing its luminous and green appearance

what can i do to rectify this issue?

thanks a million

Jamesurq · 03/15/2011, 09:59 AM

I've had SPS brown out for no other reason than apparent stress. Keep your calcium and alkalinity up, keep your water changes frequent, keep your skimmer running and make sure you have enough flow and light and it'll color up again.

njudson · 03/15/2011, 12:27 PM

If it is moving towards brown I would try more light (move it up) or less nutrients in the water. If it is moving towards white I would try less light (move it down).

dnsfpl · 03/15/2011, 07:42 PM

i always thought that sps needs lots of lights

thanks all

Jamesurq · 03/16/2011, 07:15 AM

They do - but they must be properly acclimated to it.

cody6766 · 03/16/2011, 08:04 AM

My green birdnest browned out and stayed that way. I'll see some sparkle of green show once and a while, but its mostly brown all the time. It grows like mad, but won't color up.

chimmike · 03/16/2011, 08:20 AM

could be due to the spectrum of the LEDs that you have.

DustinB · 03/16/2011, 08:57 AM

Could be any number of things such as salinity/temp swings, high nutrient levels/low nutrient levels, high/low levels of light. Start with anything you may have changed within a few weeks before the problem.

Typically if you see browning it's either high nutrient levels or low light. If the color is bleaching it's usually high light or low nutrient levels or parameter swings.

As for the light. Yes, you do need a lot of light, but that is "a lot" compared to PC lighting or crappy reflectors. When you start getting into powerful metal halide or high end t5 fixtures, depending on the tank size and depth, you can have too much light. For example, under my ati sunpower I can't place any coral more than half way in the tank without colors fading. Even the most light demanding corals I have do fine on the sand bed without browning, in fact my zoas have to go through a long light acclimation period on the sand bed depending on who's tank they came from.

dnsfpl · 03/16/2011, 09:19 AM

previously, it was place under 250w MH, app 1.5 feet away
now i place it 6 inch away from 4 x 54w T5

water parameter
kh 8-9, no3 0, ph 8.1-8.3
salinity 1.024-1.025, temp 26.7-27.3
i never measure po4, ca and mg

thanks

DustinB · 03/16/2011, 10:19 AM

Depending on the fixture, that's probably a lot of light. Move it down to where it was when it was under MH.

karsseboom · 03/16/2011, 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dnsfpl

previously, it was place under 250w MH, app 1.5 feet away
now i place it 6 inch away from 4 x 54w T5

water parameter
kh 8-9, no3 0, ph 8.1-8.3
salinity 1.024-1.025, temp 26.7-27.3
i never measure po4, ca and mg

thanks

do you have somthing adding cal mag p04? how do you never test for that? its so important to sps. p04 could be the reason you bn is browning out. It could not have enough light i mean look, it was under a 250 watt mh and now its under olny 4 t5 i bet thats not enough light.

karsseboom · 03/16/2011, 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dnsfpl

previously, it was place under 250w MH, app 1.5 feet away
now i place it 6 inch away from 4 x 54w T5

water parameter
kh 8-9, no3 0, ph 8.1-8.3
salinity 1.024-1.025, temp 26.7-27.3
i never measure po4, ca and mg

thanks

do you have somthing adding cal mag p04? how do you never test for that? its so important to sps. p04 could be the reason you bn is browning out. It could not have enough light i mean look, it was under a 250 watt mh and now its under olny 4 t5 i bet thats not enough light.

not all t5 fixture are created the same...

dnsfpl · 03/17/2011, 10:23 PM

on the other hand my monti is doing fine

2 months ago
[IMG]http://i51.*******.com/20fxbnq.jpg[/IMG]

now
[IMG]http://i51.*******.com/s41ir8.jpg[/IMG]

hopefully my BN will recovers asap

thanks all

karsseboom · 03/17/2011, 11:24 PM

well the monti can take higher p04 and less light than the BN. So if the water goes out of wack the BN will show it first.

dnsfpl · 04/03/2011, 08:22 PM

i think its getting back its green

but still not as "radioactive"

[IMG]http://i56.*******.com/14jonxi.jpg[/IMG]

100%hydrophylic · 04/03/2011, 08:38 PM

id love to have a birds nest that green lol.

il ove those green birds nest, and yours looks very nice

B-Willz · 04/03/2011, 09:55 PM

What changes did you make. I have been having the same problem

dnsfpl · 04/03/2011, 10:13 PM

my friend suggested since its growing and the polyps are extending well
why not wait for it to acclimate to my lighting

israel.kendall · 04/03/2011, 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dnsfpl

i think its getting back its green

but still not as "radioactive"

[IMG]http://i56.*******.com/14jonxi.jpg[/IMG]

Looks radioactive to me, looks really nice!

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dnsfpl · 04/03/2011, 10:53 PM

my cam cannot capture the actual colour

but can tell the color difference between mine and my friends RABN

dnsfpl · 05/20/2011, 09:30 AM

another month has passed, its growth rate looks good, and better colour too
[IMG]http://i54.*******.com/2mwglfk.jpg[/IMG]

israel.kendall · 05/20/2011, 12:46 PM

Looks great!

dnsfpl · 05/21/2011, 10:29 PM

thanks

dnsfpl · 07/02/2011, 01:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dnsfpl

another month has passed, its growth rate looks good, and better colour too
[IMG]http://i54.*******.com/2mwglfk.jpg[/IMG]

pix taken today
[IMG]http://i53.*******.com/2880b6c.jpg[/IMG]

Chris Lakies · 07/02/2011, 07:32 AM

Looking great!!

03/15/2011, 08:49 AM	#1
dnsfpl Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,121	radioactive birdnest losing its green [IMG]http://i56.*******.com/2ugdo43.jpg[/IMG] dear sps guru my bn color looks similar to the "green text" color it is growing, but losing its luminous and green appearance what can i do to rectify this issue? thanks a million __________________ Achilles Tang \| Bandit, 2 x False Shepardi Angelfish \| Cleaner, Flame & Mystery Wrasse

03/15/2011, 12:27 PM	#3
njudson Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Brooklyn Posts: 610	If it is moving towards brown I would try more light (move it up) or less nutrients in the water. If it is moving towards white I would try less light (move it down). __________________ Barebottom Nano Radion Pro Icecap 1k Gyre Icecap K1 Nano Skimmer Ocellaris pair / Potter's Angel / BTAs, Zoas and Montis Current Tank Info: IM Nuvo Fusion Lagoon 25

03/15/2011, 07:42 PM	#4
dnsfpl Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,121	i always thought that sps needs lots of lights thanks all __________________ Achilles Tang \| Bandit, 2 x False Shepardi Angelfish \| Cleaner, Flame & Mystery Wrasse

03/16/2011, 08:04 AM	#6
cody6766 Super Best Friends! Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: OKC, OK Posts: 3,772	My green birdnest browned out and stayed that way. I'll see some sparkle of green show once and a while, but its mostly brown all the time. It grows like mad, but won't color up. __________________ "The moral is the chosen, not the forced; the understood, not the obeyed. The moral is the rational, and reason accepts no commandments." - John Galt Current Tank Info: Cadlights 60G Arisan II mixed reef with 2x MP40s and 24" ATI

03/16/2011, 08:20 AM	#7
chimmike oxygen abuser Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Parrish, FL Posts: 5,089 Blog Entries: 2	could be due to the spectrum of the LEDs that you have. __________________ -Mike Tankless wonder Geaux Noles!

03/15/2011, 09:59 AM	#2
Jamesurq Moved On Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 5,470	I've had SPS brown out for no other reason than apparent stress. Keep your calcium and alkalinity up, keep your water changes frequent, keep your skimmer running and make sure you have enough flow and light and it'll color up again.

03/16/2011, 07:15 AM	#5
Jamesurq Moved On Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 5,470	They do - but they must be properly acclimated to it.

03/16/2011, 08:57 AM	#8
DustinB Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Texas Posts: 1,532	Could be any number of things such as salinity/temp swings, high nutrient levels/low nutrient levels, high/low levels of light. Start with anything you may have changed within a few weeks before the problem. Typically if you see browning it's either high nutrient levels or low light. If the color is bleaching it's usually high light or low nutrient levels or parameter swings. As for the light. Yes, you do need a lot of light, but that is "a lot" compared to PC lighting or crappy reflectors. When you start getting into powerful metal halide or high end t5 fixtures, depending on the tank size and depth, you can have too much light. For example, under my ati sunpower I can't place any coral more than half way in the tank without colors fading. Even the most light demanding corals I have do fine on the sand bed without browning, in fact my zoas have to go through a long light acclimation period on the sand bed depending on who's tank they came from.

03/16/2011, 09:19 AM	#9
dnsfpl Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,121	previously, it was place under 250w MH, app 1.5 feet away now i place it 6 inch away from 4 x 54w T5 water parameter kh 8-9, no3 0, ph 8.1-8.3 salinity 1.024-1.025, temp 26.7-27.3 i never measure po4, ca and mg thanks __________________ Achilles Tang \| Bandit, 2 x False Shepardi Angelfish \| Cleaner, Flame & Mystery Wrasse

03/16/2011, 10:19 AM	#10
DustinB Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Texas Posts: 1,532	Depending on the fixture, that's probably a lot of light. Move it down to where it was when it was under MH.

03/17/2011, 10:23 PM	#13
dnsfpl Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,121	on the other hand my monti is doing fine 2 months ago [IMG]http://i51.*****.com/20fxbnq.jpg[/IMG] now [IMG]http://i51.*****.com/s41ir8.jpg[/IMG] hopefully my BN will recovers asap thanks all __________________ Achilles Tang \| Bandit, 2 x False Shepardi Angelfish \| Cleaner, Flame & Mystery Wrasse

03/17/2011, 11:24 PM	#14
karsseboom Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 2,183	well the monti can take higher p04 and less light than the BN. So if the water goes out of wack the BN will show it first.

04/03/2011, 08:22 PM	#15
dnsfpl Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,121	i think its getting back its green but still not as "radioactive" [IMG]http://i56.*******.com/14jonxi.jpg[/IMG] __________________ Achilles Tang \| Bandit, 2 x False Shepardi Angelfish \| Cleaner, Flame & Mystery Wrasse

04/03/2011, 08:38 PM	#16
100%hydrophylic Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: GA Posts: 1,636	id love to have a birds nest that green lol. il ove those green birds nest, and yours looks very nice __________________ :) Current Tank Info: 75g mixed reef, 28g nano SPS

04/03/2011, 09:55 PM	#17
B-Willz Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Aurora Co Posts: 420	What changes did you make. I have been having the same problem

04/03/2011, 10:13 PM	#18
dnsfpl Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,121	my friend suggested since its growing and the polyps are extending well why not wait for it to acclimate to my lighting __________________ Achilles Tang \| Bandit, 2 x False Shepardi Angelfish \| Cleaner, Flame & Mystery Wrasse

04/03/2011, 10:53 PM	#20
dnsfpl Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,121	my cam cannot capture the actual colour but can tell the color difference between mine and my friends RABN __________________ Achilles Tang \| Bandit, 2 x False Shepardi Angelfish \| Cleaner, Flame & Mystery Wrasse

05/20/2011, 09:30 AM	#21
dnsfpl Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,121	another month has passed, its growth rate looks good, and better colour too [IMG]http://i54.*******.com/2mwglfk.jpg[/IMG] __________________ Achilles Tang \| Bandit, 2 x False Shepardi Angelfish \| Cleaner, Flame & Mystery Wrasse

05/20/2011, 12:46 PM	#22
israel.kendall Padawan Reefer Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Land O Lakes Posts: 922	Looks great!

05/21/2011, 10:29 PM	#23
dnsfpl Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,121	thanks __________________ Achilles Tang \| Bandit, 2 x False Shepardi Angelfish \| Cleaner, Flame & Mystery Wrasse

07/02/2011, 07:32 AM	#25
Chris Lakies Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Grand Blanc Michigan Posts: 1,446	Looking great!! __________________ CL Current Tank Info: 50 breeder, 2 x XR15w pro (G4), 1 x MP40wQD, Apex JR, Ehiem-Jager 200 watt heater, Jabao DC6000 return, Reef Octo 150 elite SSS skimmer

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